What policies of the voting rights act did repubs vote to gut, in your words?Malcolm X died in 1968. Helms, Thurmond, and others changed parties after that. Try again.
What policies of the voting rights act did repubs vote to gut, in your words?Malcolm X died in 1968. Helms, Thurmond, and others changed parties after that. Try again.
There were hundreds of Dixiecrats. There were only two that switched.Malcolm X died in 1968. Helms, Thurmond, and others changed parties after that. Try again.
You left out: Fail to protect blacks in inner cities such as Phily, Chicago, and NYC; and fail to give black kids in inner cities access to better schools. You can thank the dems for all of that.White supremacy is not ancient history. Along as fools continue to wave confederate flags in their yards and trucks. Fail to take down confederate statutes. Fail to change the names of US military bases names after people that killed US soldiers, white supremacy is alive and well.
You key word is started. Perhaps blacks started voting for northern democrats as the 1920s and 1930s was when a lot of blacks migrates to the northern cities for jobs and to schools as southern blacks weren’t allowed to go to almost of the southern public schools. The 1920s was the thing that my grandparents moved to the north from the south.There were hundreds of Dixiecrats. There were only two that switched.
The Civil Rights act was passed in 1964. Dixiecrats were supposed to have switched around then. Blacks started voting for Democrats in the 1930's. I think you're the one that needs to try again.
The Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Acts were both passed by a Democratic President. Clinton's economic policies did more to build up black wealth than any President before or since. I've seen firsthand how the Affordable Care Act has brought healthcare access to millions of Americans, many of them black.
I'm not saying you're racist, but if you think GOP policies benefit black people, you're pretty deluded.
I'll say it. Bad policy.
The repubs including the conservatives in the Supreme Court and also including uncle Clarence Thomas did gut the 1965 Voting Rights bill back in 2013. They took out preclearance which was a key aspect of the law.What policies of the voting rights act did repubs vote to gut, in your words?
That was a Supreme Court decision, not a republican decision.The repubs including the conservatives in the Supreme Court and also including uncle Clarence Thomas did gut the 1965 Voting Rights bill back in 2013. They took out preclearance which was a key aspect of the law.
In 2013 the supreme court gutted voting rights – how has it changed the US?
The supreme court struck down a formula at the heart of Voting Rights Act – now voters who are discriminated against bear the burden of proving they are disenfranchisedwww.theguardian.com
Yeah, but the repub law makers around the country supported that decision. That Supreme Court decision in 2013 laid the ground work for the Republican voting changes after the 2020 election. If the law wasn’t gutted, the republicans would have had to get permission from the US Justice Department to make those voting law changes.That was a Supreme Court decision, not a republican decision.
Repubs are trying to make it harder to cheat, not harder to vote. That's why an Uncle Tom like you doesn't like it.
Record Georgia turnout exposes the Democrats’ voter suppression lie - Washington Examiner
Early voting has ended in Georgia. This means that at long last, the nation gets to find out just how out of touch with reality Democrats were when they denounced the state's new election reform law. At the time, the Democratic Party used its media tentacles to intimidate much of corporate...www.washingtonexaminer.com
I posted a link about one of those changes in Ga, after which there was record voter turnout. If repubs intended to reduce turnout, they did a lousy job, wouldn't you agree?Yeah, but the repub law makers around the country supported that decision. That Supreme Court decision in 2013 laid the ground work for the Republican voting changes after the 2020 election. If the law wasn’t gutted, the republicans would have had to get permission from the US Justice Department to make those voting law changes.
Well at least democrats support mail in voting.Yeah, but the repub law makers around the country supported that decision. That Supreme Court decision in 2013 laid the ground work for the Republican voting changes after the 2020 election. If the law wasn’t gutted, the republicans would have had to get permission from the US Justice Department to make those voting law changes.
The record turnout was due black churches, black radio stations etc. getting the the word out to make sure people get out to vote to counter these suppression law changes. Voter registration drives among blacks across the US were up. The voter suppression laws may or may not have worked but the attempt was obviously there and may have backfired.I posted a link about one of those changes in Ga, after which there was record voter turnout. If repubs intended to reduce turnout, they did a lousy job, wouldn't you agree?
If Uncle Tom is defined as a Black man (Joe would say 'boy') considered to be excessively obedient to white people, then you are an Uncle Tom for your excessive obedience to whatever the establishment white dems tell you. Clarence Thomas, in contrast, pushed back on Joe Crow and the other dem libs in his confirmation hearing.
Again, there were more Democrats in office at that time. The facts remain that a much higher percentage of Republicans voted for it than Democrats.Actually 44 Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act and only 27 Republicans supported it. Goldwater, the 1964 GOP nominee, opposed the Civil Rights Act.
The GOP has voted to gut the provisions of the Voting Rights Act, which has allowed North Carolina to be gerrymandered to the point that the state legislature is completely unrepresentative of the state's political makeup.
Well 70% is a pretty damn good start wouldn't you think?You key word is started. Perhaps blacks started voting for northern democrats as the 1920s and 1930s was when a lot of blacks migrates to the northern cities for jobs and to schools as southern blacks weren’t allowed to go to almost of the southern public schools. The 1920s was the thing that my grandparents moved to the north from the south.
No they didn't. You have no evidence for this either. The vast majority of Dixiecrats died as Democrats. The reality is that The South slowly started to become less racist, thus over time becoming more Republican. Republicans won Florida as far back as 1928 and more regularly winning it from 1952 on.The Dixiecrats didn’t switch until after civil rights and voting bills. A lot were part of the Republican southern strategy that Nixon and Lee Atwater used to try and get the southern votes. Blacks during that time in the late 60s and early 70s began voting overwhelmingly for democrats. And never looked back.
That's the only true statement that you made.As a side note, Blacks were first allowed to vote around 1870 with the passing of the 15th amendment. The South stated going red back then until Jim Crow laws really kicked in. That's when the South became solid blue.
Please tell me what else I stated that was false, because pretty much everything I've stated is supported by facts. South was going red when Blacks could vote. Went DEEP blue when Jim Crow kicked in. Once CRA was passed there was no more voting for segregation, so it started going red again. The South may have had some racists, but that doesn't mean their voting patterns supported racists to this day. That is the thought process of a child.That's the only true statement that you made.
I never said that the south switched to republican after 1964. They are certainly red states now, though. I've always said that the republicans became a racist party during the late 60s and 70s. Thanks in part to Lee Atwater.But I personally think looking at presidential elections is very limited. We know people blame gerrymandering and suppression for all sorts of turnouts.
So let’s look at congressional results.
1960 United States House of Representatives elections - Wikipedia
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Let me pause here… notice that we are now in 1988 and the Democrats still control the entirety of the South and in no election we’ve seen has that changed.
Let’s keep going.
1992 United States House of Representatives elections - Wikipedia
1996 United States House of Representatives elections - Wikipedia
2000 United States House of Representatives elections - Wikipedia
Look at that. It isn’t until 1996 that we see the Republicans take over the South in congress!
But wait! There's more!
Let’s do governorship. Let’s look at the early 1970s, enough time for parties to “switch”.
1970 Alabama gubernatorial election - Wikipedia
1970 Arkansas gubernatorial election - Wikipedia
1970 Georgia gubernatorial election - Wikipedia
1970 Louisiana Governor John McKeithen - Wikipedia
1972 Mississippi Governor John Bell Williams - Wikipedia
1973 Missouri Governor Warren E. Hearnes - Wikipedia
1972 North Carolina gubernatorial election - Wikipedia
1970 South Carolina gubernatorial election - Wikipedia
1970 Texas gubernatorial election - Wikipedia
1970 Tennessee gubernatorial election - Wikipedia
1970 Virginia Governor Mills Godwin - Wikipedia
All but two remained Democrat.
The whole idea and premise is wrong.
I’m not going to do the Senate, because I think you get the idea:
1960 United States Senate elections - Wikipedia
But you can go through them yourself and see that the pattern is the same.
This idea that the south switched Republican after 1964 is false and it’s dishonest. And what’s worse, is that it’s perpetuated despite easily accessible information proving that the premise is wrong.
There's zero proof of this. None. Not in policy, not in voter base, nothing. I know you're going to state something stupid like the racists vote Republican, but that is not evidence that Republicans are racist. Correlation does not prove causation. AND, these moronic groups are dying out. Their memberships are dropping year after year and are pretty much only in the low thousands (3,000) as opposed to in the millions back when they were Democrats.I never said that the south switched to republican after 1964. They are certainly red states now, though. I've always said that the republicans became a racist party during the late 60s and 70s. Thanks in part to Lee Atwater.
Yes I do. You're always going to get a few that won't. You'll never get 100% so picking out one or two people out of hundreds to prove your point is cherry picking at best.Let me ask you. Do you think this current crop of republicans in the House and Senate vote for the 1960s Civil Rights and Voting Rights Bills? Remember Rand Paul and other Libertarians are republicans. Rand Paul already said a few years ago that he would not.
I'm not talking about the current Voting bill that they all voted no for.Nice to see you took the time to actually read through what I post (hint, that was sarcasm, because based on the time in which you had responded, you didn't have the time to really take it in).
There's zero proof of this. None. Not in policy, not in voter base, nothing. I know you're going to state something stupid like the racists vote Republican, but that is not evidence that Republicans are racist. Correlation does not prove causation. AND, these moronic groups are dying out. Their memberships are dropping year after year and are pretty much only in the low thousands (3,000) as opposed to in the millions back when they were Democrats.
Yes I do. You're always going to get a few that won't. You'll never get 100% so picking out one or two people out of hundreds to prove your point is cherry picking at best.
Also, comparing the Civil Rights bill with the Voting Rights bill is dishonest (assuming you're referring to the most recent one).
The vast majority. Just like they did back then.I'm not talking about the current Voting bill that they all voted no for.
So what percentage of the current republicans in the House and Senate do you honestly think would have voted for the 1960s Civil Rights bill? What percentage would have voted for the 1960s Voting Rights Bill?
So what percentage of current dems in Congress do you think would have voted for Jim Crow laws of the last century?I'm not talking about the current Voting bill that they all voted no for.
So what percentage of the current republicans in the House and Senate do you honestly think would have voted for the 1960s Civil Rights bill? What percentage would have voted for the 1960s Voting Rights Bill?
ZERO would.vote for those Jim Crow laws. Also zero repubs would have voted for the 1960s Voting and Civil Rights bills,So what percentage of current dems in Congress do you think would have voted for Jim Crow laws of the last century?
Do you see how absurd your question is.?
Do you have any idea how ridiculous this claim is? THIS shows just how skewed your world view is from reality and it's scary that the Left has this much control over what you think.ZERO would.vote for those Jim Crow laws. Also zero repubs would have voted for the 1960s Voting and Civil Eights bills,
First of all, please stop with the left control over what I think crap. That is insulting. I'm a black man talking about civil rights. Nobody controls what I think.Do you have any idea how ridiculous this claim is? THIS shows just how skewed your world view is from reality and it's scary that the Left has this much control over what you think.
I don't care if it's insulting. It's the truth. They are the one's pushing this narrative. It's a flat out lie, yet you believe it. Sorry, but it's just the reality. Until you start to think for yourself, you're going to keep making the same mistakes. Hopefully some day you will realize the spell you've been under and will thank me for being honest with you.First of all, please stop with the left control over what I think crap. That is insulting. I'm a black man talking about civil rights. Nobody controls what I think.
If my claim is ridiculous, then answer my simple question. How many current repubs in the House and Senate would have voted for the 1960s civil rights and voting rights bills? They didn't even vote for the recent John Lewis Voting Rights Bill.
FIFYThat’s why I vote for the current party of antisemitism. The Democrat Party.
We need the John Lewis voting bill to counter the recent voter suppression laws that was introduced around the country after 2020 election. Also to put back what the US Supreme Court gutted from the 1965 Voting bill in 2013. What the Supreme Court gutted from the 1965 bill paved way for the 2020 voting law changes.
We need the John Lewis voting bill to counter the recent voter suppression laws that was introduced around the country after 2020 election. Also to put back what the US Supreme Court gutted from the 1965 Voting bill in 2013. What the Supreme Court gutted from the 1965 bill paved way for the 2020 voting law changes.
Yep, the voter suppression laws all over the country.You mean like the voter suppression law in GA......where more people voted after the law was installed? Lol
What voter suppression laws? You mean the voter ID laws that the Dems kick and scream about that ended up with record minority voter turnout? Those laws?We need the John Lewis voting bill to counter the recent voter suppression laws that was introduced around the country after 2020 election. Also to put back what the US Supreme Court gutted from the 1965 Voting bill in 2013. What the Supreme Court gutted from the 1965 bill paved way for the 2020 voting law changes.
Yet ALL of the evidence is to the contrary. This is exactly an example of the Dems controlling what you think. They kick and scream about this stuff and say it will do something and you just believe it, despite the actual evidence.Yep, the voter suppression laws all over the country.
First of all, again and again, stop saying that the Dems control what I/we think. “The blacks” were the ones that initially complained about these laws that actually began after Obama was elected. Particularly voter ID. The Republican strategists, doing their jobs by the way, found out that a lot blacks in the large cities did not have a state issued ID for various reasons.Yet ALL of the evidence is to the contrary. This is exactly an example of the Dems controlling what you think. They kick and scream about this stuff and say it will do something and you just believe it, despite the actual evidence.
You can't call it voter suppression if record numbers come out after the fact. It's more like vote cheating suppression laws. Dems hate those.
You can’t be serious that John Fetterman was a better candidate than Dr. Oz. Pennsylvania has a lot of ignorant voters.First of all, again and again, stop saying that the Dems control what I/we think. “The blacks” were the ones that initially complained about these laws that actually began after Obama was elected. Particularly voter ID. The Republican strategists, doing their jobs by the way, found out that a lot blacks in the large cities did not have a state issued ID for various reasons.
Move forward to 2020. After the the false election was stolen BS, and loss of the WH, the repub districts in red states stepped up the game of voter suppression under the guise of protecting the voting process. Voter ID was not much of an issue anymore as folks did adjust and got their IDs. And some perhaps just did not and could not vote.
What did happen was that, republicans strategists and law makers in red states decided notice how the blacks as well as democrats like to vote. Such as absentee, mail in, drop boxes, Sunday voting, (your que Boneman) etc. Then decided to change the voting laws to restrict, now the Dems, to make it harder to vote.
As far as record numbers coming out to vote. I already answered it. The attempt to suppress the vote was obviously there. But it backfired on the republicans. What happened was that it pissed off people. Black talk radio and social media went all out to mobilize people to get out to vote. If you are not registered, get registered. Don’t have an ID, get one and vote. Plus the fact of a horrible and evil president. Horrible Republican lawmakers that people wanted out of office like the female Senator in GA at the time. The Dems came out in numbers to vote. Doesn’t help the republicans to put out ignorant candidates like Hershel Walker and Dr. Oz.
Fetterman winning is kinda my point. Even though I like Fetterman, he has some serious medical issues. Because of those medical issues, he performed horribly in the debates. A good republican candidate should have won easily. Instead, the Republicans put up another MAGA candidate, Dr. Oz. Similar to Walker, Oz is a carpet bagger with no political experience at all. That also came across in the debates. The republicans in PA are the ignorant ones to nominate someone like Dr. Oz. Similar in GA, and even more ignorant is nominating someone foolish like Hershel Walker. You can argue Dr. Oz. But there is no way that Hershel Walker should be near public office. You can't tell me that GA republicans couldn't do better than Hershel Walker. Again, the GA republican voters that nominated Walker are the ignorant ones.You can’t be serious that John Fetterman was a better candidate than Dr. Oz. Pennsylvania has a lot of ignorant voters.
You should call him racist whether he is or not. Calling someone racist is underused and since we know around half the country supports the party of Intersectionality we know half the country is racist and that is just one branch of that evil platform. That party is also sexist? When you consider those legal or illegal...dead or alive that voted for the Intersectionality Party Platform as a sampling of the total population we have hundreds of millions of racists and sexists walking the streets like everyone else and they don't even recognize it.The Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Acts were both passed by a Democratic President. Clinton's economic policies did more to build up black wealth than any President before or since. I've seen firsthand how the Affordable Care Act has brought healthcare access to millions of Americans, many of them black.
I'm not saying you're racist, but if you think GOP policies benefit black people, you're pretty deluded.
There are a LOT of ignorant voters...believe me and I'm not only talking about the live ones either.You can’t be serious that John Fetterman was a better candidate than Dr. Oz. Pennsylvania has a lot of ignorant voters.
Nice narrative, but totally false and easily provable by actual results. You're lying to yourself.First of all, again and again, stop saying that the Dems control what I/we think. “The blacks” were the ones that initially complained about these laws that actually began after Obama was elected. Particularly voter ID. The Republican strategists, doing their jobs by the way, found out that a lot blacks in the large cities did not have a state issued ID for various reasons.
Move forward to 2020. After the the false election was stolen BS, and loss of the WH, the repub districts in red states stepped up the game of voter suppression under the guise of protecting the voting process. Voter ID was not much of an issue anymore as folks did adjust and got their IDs. And some perhaps just did not and could not vote.
Dude, you're so damn delusional. The reality is that Dems have been using the weak voting laws to cheat for decades. There's very well known accounts of this in mayoral elections in Chicago, Philly, etc. We even linked the most recent cases of voter fraud using mail in ballots. It was Democrats doing it. Face it. Democrats and cheating goes hand in hand. THAT's what the voter ID laws were to go after. This narrative about blacks not having I.D. to vote is bullshit. Never has been a thing. In fact, blacks when questioned about it say they think it's racist that someone thought they were unable to have an I.D.What did happen was that, republicans strategists and law makers in red states decided notice how the blacks as well as democrats like to vote. Such as absentee, mail in, drop boxes, Sunday voting, (your que Boneman) etc. Then decided to change the voting laws to restrict, now the Dems, to make it harder to vote.
As far as record numbers coming out to vote. I already answered it. The attempt to suppress the vote was obviously there. But it backfired on the republicans. What happened was that it pissed off people. Black talk radio and social media went all out to mobilize people to get out to vote. If you are not registered, get registered. Don’t have an ID, get one and vote. Plus the fact of a horrible and evil president. Horrible Republican lawmakers that people wanted out of office like the female Senator in GA at the time. The Dems came out in numbers to vote. Doesn’t help the republicans to put out ignorant candidates like Hershel Walker and Dr. Oz.