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After seeing video on our 2017 commits, it seems we are getting a couple guys with skill sets that are kind of unique to Purdue in a while.
A seven footer roaming the perimeter and 3/4 guy with some nice hops.
Seems like they could attract additional commits to make for a pretty nice class.
 
two interesting projects, hopefully we can get some players that are more ready for prime time
 
Or a big, talented guard (or wing) type would help as well (Nojel Eastern or a top JUCO that fits this description).
Eastern is certainly priority #1.

If he decides to go elsewhere, I am guessing that Sasha Stefanovic gets an offer. I'm speculating, but I know that the Purdue staff has been in contact with Stefanovic for a while now. I'm not sure that he's a Big Ten level athlete, but I thought the same thing about PJ, who's developed nicely. I hear that he can shoot, dribble, and pass at a very high level.
 
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I'm not sure PJ is a B10 level athlete. PJ is a decent player to bring off the bench or a good practice player but he's not the starting PG on a FF caliber team.
Not degrading him, but that's the truth.
You're to ably right about his athleticism and his height, but no one can take away his work ethic or his heart and love for the game. That right there is the most important part of the game imo.
 
I'm not sure PJ is a B10 level athlete. PJ is a decent player to bring off the bench or a good practice player but he's not the starting PG on a FF caliber team.
Not degrading him, but that's the truth.

By your standards, when was the last time Purdue had a player of that caliber?

Certainly not RJ, Lew Jack, Chad Austin, or any player that I can remember
 
I'm not sure PJ is a B10 level athlete. PJ is a decent player to bring off the bench or a good practice player but he's not the starting PG on a FF caliber team.
Not degrading him, but that's the truth.
The typical starting point guard on a FF caliber team is much better than an average Big Ten point guard. PJ is a role player who is undersized and lacks elite athleticism to make up for it, but he is a very valuable role player and well worth his scholarship. Painter would offer him again in a heartbeat.

Also, if you are saying that Purdue has no chance at a Final Four this season with PJ as the starting point guard, I disagree.
 
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The typical starting point guard on a FF caliber team is much better than an average Big Ten point guard. PJ is a role player who is undersized and lacks elite athleticism to make up for it, but he is a very valuable role player and well worth his scholarship. Painter would offer him again in a heartbeat.

Also, if you are saying that Purdue has no chance at a Final Four this season with PJ as the starting point guard, I disagree.

Some things about PJ:

1. Career 3.00 assist/turnover ratio (126 / 42), Would place him #1 all time at Purdue.
2. In games he has zero turnovers during his career, Purdue is 27-10, including 18-4 as a sophomore in 2015-16.
3. Improved his 3-point percentage 129 points from his freshman (.286) to his sophomore year (.415); .218 points in Big Ten play (.250 to .468).
4. Started the year with zero turnovers in his first six games and had zero turnovers in 22-of-35 games.
5. Had a stretch from Jan. 7 to Feb. 16, where he had one turnover in 12 games (277 minutes; 29 assists vs. one turnover).
6. In games against nationally-ranked teams, shot 9-of-20 (.450) from long distance and averaged 3.4 assists per game (24 assists, 6 turnovers).

I'd say that is a damn good B1G PG if you ask me. If you were looking at a facilitating PG to make the motion offense work the ball around to find the best possible shot on each possession and take a late three if need be, PJ would fill that role just fine. It just so happens that is exactly what CMP wants him to do at Purdue and that is exactly what he gives the program.
 
Some things about PJ:

1. Career 3.00 assist/turnover ratio (126 / 42), Would place him #1 all time at Purdue.
2. In games he has zero turnovers during his career, Purdue is 27-10, including 18-4 as a sophomore in 2015-16.
3. Improved his 3-point percentage 129 points from his freshman (.286) to his sophomore year (.415); .218 points in Big Ten play (.250 to .468).
4. Started the year with zero turnovers in his first six games and had zero turnovers in 22-of-35 games.
5. Had a stretch from Jan. 7 to Feb. 16, where he had one turnover in 12 games (277 minutes; 29 assists vs. one turnover).
6. In games against nationally-ranked teams, shot 9-of-20 (.450) from long distance and averaged 3.4 assists per game (24 assists, 6 turnovers).

I'd say that is a damn good B1G PG if you ask me. If you were looking at a facilitating PG to make the motion offense work the ball around to find the best possible shot on each possession and take a late three if need be, PJ would fill that role just fine. It just so happens that is exactly what CMP wants him to do at Purdue and that is exactly what he gives the program.
What is needed to make the team really click is an extremely athletic 2 guard who can both shoot long and drive. This is where Carsen comes in.
 
What is needed to make the team really click is an extremely athletic 2 guard who can both shoot long and drive. This is where Carsen comes in.
I completely agree. My concern is having PJ and Carsen on the floor at the same time. Very small. It will be interesting to see who else is on the floor when CE comes into the game or starts.
 
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I completely agree. My concern is having PJ and Carsen on the floor at the same time. Very small. It will be interesting to see who else is on the floor when CE comes into the game or starts.
True they are small. But I love the combination of skills. We will see if it works or not at some point I hope.
 
I completely agree. My concern is having PJ and Carsen on the floor at the same time. Very small. It will be interesting to see who else is on the floor when CE comes into the game or starts.

Reminds me of shabazz napier and his partner st the guard position (name escapes me) when they were undersized but hit big shots and pressured the ball defensively em route to a championship for UCONN.
 
Carsen Edwards is the one that has the speed, athleticism, and overall ability to be the starting PG on a Final Four caliber team at Purdue, more so than Thompson. Thompson has done about as well as he can, but he is what he is: a good, secondary guard option that's a team player.
 
I recall a national champion UNC team that had two guards, both from Indiana. Both were on the short side, and both could handle the ball well. They didn't turn it over and they got the ball to the right guy. This might have been 15-20 years ago. I was impressed with the guard tandem, and wished they had stayed within the state of Indiana.
 
Reminds me of shabazz napier and his partner st the guard position (name escapes me) when they were undersized but hit big shots and pressured the ball defensively em route to a championship for UCONN.
Or Smith and Siva at Louisville,
 
Smith/Siva and Boatright/Napier were both very good backcourts. Would love for Carsen to be part of one that turns out that strong!

Not sure we currently have a partner for him that is nearly as dynamic as those guys. Looking forward to seeing how the lineups/combinations come together. Would 11/11 please hurry up and get here!!
 
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Smith/Siva and Boatright/Napier were both very good backcourts. Would love for Carsen to be part of one that turns out that strong!

Not sure we currently have a partner for him that is nearly as dynamic as those guys. Looking forward to seeing how the lineups/combinations come together. Would 11/11 please hurry up and get here!!

gettin ready......to dig it.....next month.....

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Smith/Siva and Boatright/Napier were both very good backcourts. Would love for Carsen to be part of one that turns out that strong!

Not sure we currently have a partner for him that is nearly as dynamic as those guys. Looking forward to seeing how the lineups/combinations come together. Would 11/11 please hurry up and get here!!

Can you imagine Carsen and Romeo Langford!?!? Then get Isaiah Thompson after Romeo leaves? We can dream right?
 
Carsen Edwards is the one that has the speed, athleticism, and overall ability to be the starting PG on a Final Four caliber team at Purdue, more so than Thompson. Thompson has done about as well as he can, but he is what he is: a good, secondary guard option that's a team player.
I agree he could that if you run a ball screen offense, which we don't. Play him at the two guard and watch what he will do with it in the motion. Then you still can mix in ball screen when you want it by ball screening the two guard. It will give you the ability to have both weapons, a secure passer who understands how to get every other player the ball in right position at the right time and the athletic player on the wing able to take advantage of it.
 
Still hoping for Eastern. Based on his Twitter likes, I think that Purdue has a real chance. I certainly am not assuming anything, however. Izzo, in particular, is always tough to beat.
 
This past weekend Izzo had Bowen, Jackson, Campbell, Brooks Jr. I'm starting to like our chances more and more. I am worried OSU is going to get in and give him the Russell PG pitch.
 
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