Not sure. Looks like a ball denial drill to me with fewer defensive players on the floor to amp up the intensity.
never seen a ball denial drill like that, but again we are only getting some. It appears to me that PJ is cheating towards the ball (in a help situation) and either recovers to his man or the man in his area if a zone. I have no idea what Dakota is doing, but his recovery in the skip pass is seen. I just thought it was interesting seeing this...
Son of a coach and one who was dragged around to more games than I can count. Got a chance to talk to some of Chicago's finest coaches at the Proviso West Holiday Tourney while growing up...it was a joy to watch teams from Faragut, King, Proviso East, Proviso West, and so on play. Indiana wants to talk about their basketball teams here...but some of those inner city squads have some dudes on them that would run many of the high school teams here out of the gym. I'm sure being in the Evanston area, you've had your fair share of watching some of those teams play from time to time and maybe even attending that holiday tourney. I know for a fact if my son's are in to basketball...we will be going there to watch.
The playgrounds of inner city LA were the recruiting grounds for Tarkanian ... most see him as a cheater, some see him as a saviour who gave some kids a future they never would have had.
I'm confused. What is this zone thingy to which you keep referring?
see it is his shading that has me wondering if he is helping pretend he is covering the top and then recovering. If it was truly his man he probably wouldn't shade him that much that close to the basket...and since I can't see Dakota I have no idea where he is in this. Had Dakota been in the picture then I might have thought he was forcing him, but not seeing Dakota and being too far away to force toward a DAkota that was missing from view...I really have no idea what they are doing. I've worked on denying wing, baseline, backdoor cuts and flashes into the high post, but have never seen this. If I were to teach defending cutters for return passes I would teach to step to the ball (toward the person receiving the ball) to place me in line to prevent a return pass. Any type of help and recover I always had less defenders than offensive players. This...I really don't know what they are doing because of PJ shading (was the drill starting or had a few passes already took place?) and the fact I have no idea where Dakota is. Any shell work I'm familiar with was 5 defenders..using cutters on offense and flashers into teh post as well as perimeter passing and defensive positioning. I worked on trapping with two defenders jumping...I just have never seen this...as well as probably 1000 other variations to teach various things
I'm born and raised on the west side of Chicago and went to HS there too just moved to evanston to give my son a better education and life in evanston. I no all those teams and I've been to that holiday tournament every year.
Awww, c'mon now, don't forget Downstate, like Peoria, where they play a bit of ball as well.
Ill be at there practice Tuesday maybe I can shed some light of what they are doing
I would love to pick up any tips and nuances. Someday when I retire if around the area I'm going to ask Matt if I can be a fly on the wall. It is so hard to see what they are working on when half of the defense in out of the picture...other than some defensive work that includes getting into the passing lane, closing out and ...???? yes, it you can add what is behind the curtain I think we would all enjoy that. No question many new drills are out there I have never seen. I fully understand Johnnydoeboiler's comment on 1 pass away as that has been standard defense for over four decades for any D not denying everyone...I just found this drill interesting and yet I couldn't see what half the defense was doing...
Funny how the fundamentals and the methods to teach them don't change from the top 25 on down to little kids just starting. This is the part thats so much fun to see, the carryover.
Thanks. Don't have the opportunity to coach right now since I am flying the single dad with two boys full time flag right now....but when those two get of age to really start playing (they are only 15 months apart)...I'll probably coach every single team they are on....and the little one will just have to play up in age if he has to. Just hoping they don't play soccer, tennis, or wrestling...I literally own no knowledge of those sports beyond a basic understanding to know how to watch it without asking a million questions while doing so.
I have done what you are starting over the last eighteen years. From 4 year olds in rec sports through high school and some AAU. Football, boys basketball, girls basketball, baseball, softball. When my daughter started playing for her high school she also helped me coach as well which was great for me.
I coached starting in high school for lower level basketball and baseball and continued up to coaching freshman and JV baseball before I was out of college...but got married and stepped away from coaching for marriage (mistake...both marriage and getting away from coach, lol) and am concentrating solely on the boys right now. Really excited to get back in to coaching soon!
It is a long season and you will find that different age groups are limited in what you can teach at what physical level.Don't be surprised that you don't play the games over and over in your mind. Don't be surprised if you always question yourself if you were fair in all aspects to the players. Cutting players is the hardest thing. You will find a fork in the road many times as to whether you choose to win or develop players because sometimes those are very different.
I was unaware you coached before or wouldn't have offered what I did below...
I coached soccer through about 4th or 5th grade with very little prior knowledge of the sport. I can’t say that I was a great coach, but I attended coaching camps and learned what the kids needed to be doing to build a strong foundation at a young age and I gradually increased my knowledge as the kids got older.
All athletics share common teachings. I coached both of my kids in every ball sport out there other than football (some flag). I knew the least about soccer. therefore, was not selected to coach at our local club.
TJ, I am with you on everything you told JDB. But I especially love the last statement because the sooner you start the sooner you get to learn from your screw ups. I approach teaching these kids so differently today than when I started. Not so much what I teach but how. I’m way more patient and with the younger or lower level kids I want it to be fun so they learn to love it. I’m going to take my next thoughts over to a response to one of his posts so he can read unsolicited advice from the mind of old DG!It is a long season and you will find that different age groups are limited in what you can teach at what physical level.Don't be surprised that you don't play the games over and over in your mind. Don't be surprised if you always question yourself if you were fair in all aspects to the players. Cutting players is the hardest thing. You will find a fork in the road many times as to whether you choose to win or develop players because sometimes those are very different.
If I can offer what I consider the best thing a person can do for a young player...develop ball handling skills...then you are not as dependent on others getting you the ball as much. Second, do not let them heave the ball, but work on shooting form and mechanics before catching the ball on the perimeter, mechanics on any pass always going to the shooting pocket prior to any lifting of the ball and then the shot and follow through. Develop a toughness in the players mentally...discipline, teaching little things like various details, high expectations and deserving praise. I also think you should coach some BEFORE your sons are of age rather than learning with them as you will probably encounter just how many different buttons are on a team and get exposure to things you "may not" have envisioned
Wholeheartedly agree. My daughter convinced me to volunteer to help coach her track team when she was a Frosh. I agreed and ultimately stayed with the team for the next 25 years. Also had the opportunity to coach both my grandkids in other sports. May well be the best thing that I have done.
one thing I’ve been doing the last few years (basketball) is not using single skill drills much at all. I am setting up mini scrimmages with rules that force them to play the way I want them to learn. They apply it much better in the games because they learned it in a game like setting. It’s also a lot more fun than drills. If I want to work work on bounce passes and v cuts then we scrimmage with rules like no dribbling, you can’t move without using a v-cut, and you can only throw bounce passes.
I’ve thought about if I will have the same opportunity when I have grand kids. That’s great that you got to do that!
This entire discussion reminds me that if you really want to learn a topic, teach it.
...and even then it does not guarantee you know it.
