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In State Recruiting

Before the injuries, I'd take Werner over all of our LBs- we have no one who can cover like he could, though Hermans close.

You wouldn't take Elliott over Blough? I would.

And when was the last time one of our receivers put up 200 yards and 2 TDs on a ranked team?

Werner was bad against the run. I'd take Bentley over all linebackers since the 2003 team.

Elliott v blough is a wash in my book. Similar players with similar limitations
 
And here's my point. Hazell could make daily visits to whatever 10 schools you are wanting him to and he's not going to pull significant recruits with other decent offers from there due to his his record as head coach. Complaining about relationships with high school coaches for Hazell at Purdue is like complaining about the power windows not working in a car where the engine just blew.
You don't understand how the recruiting process works. If Hazell somehow pulls a winning season out of his backside, he can't just show up at CG, BD, and Warren and expect to start signing players in January. The groundwork for this class needed to be laid 2-3 years ago.

And it would help if the AD was on board with some type of marketing strategy, like IU does with all the TV commercials and billboards.
 
Werner was bad against the run. I'd take Bentley over all linebackers since the 2003 team.

Elliott v blough is a wash in my book. Similar players with similar limitations
And Bentley's bad against the pass.

I'll put this another way: if Kawann, Kerrigan, spencer, Neal, and pollard were from Texas, they wouldn't have signed with Purdue.
 
Werner was bad against the run. I'd take Bentley over all linebackers since the 2003 team.

Elliott v blough is a wash in my book. Similar players with similar limitations
Elliott went 4-4 as a starter in B1G games, Blough went 1-7.
 
If Hazell somehow pulls a winning season out of his backside, he can't just show up at CG, BD, and Warren and expect to start signing players in January.

I know enough about the recruiting process to understand that coaches that win 6 games in 3 years aren't going to sign top 25 classes very often no matter how good of relationships they have built.

You just said it yourself. He has to have a winning season before it even matters.
 
I know enough about the recruiting process to understand that coaches that win 6 games in 3 years aren't going to sign top 25 classes very often no matter how good of relationships they have built.

You just said it yourself. He has to have a winning season before it even matters.
i didn't say that. I said IF he does have a winning season, he isn't all of a sudden going to waltz into Indy's top programs and start signing up their best players.

Did tom Crean wait for a winning season before he went after the state's top players?
 
I thought our talent went down hill in 2005 due to all the instate recruiting?

Tillers teams those last 5 years werent as talented as his first 7. Want to guess which set of years depended on Indiana recruited more heavily?
 
Tillers teams those last 5 years werent as talented as his first 7. Want to guess which set of years depended on Indiana recruited more heavily?
I'm not saying to focus heavily on Indiana. My point was there are 15-20 3 star players in this state that are as good or better than the truckload of 2 stars we are spending a fortune to recruit.

In addition, most of our recent top NFL players are from the state, and they wouldn't have come here if they were from Texas or Florida. Over half of our quality pass rushers over the last 20 years were instate players. Now, we have none.

I would take Tillers last 7 teams in a heartbeat over the "State of Purdue's" product thus far.
 
I'm not saying to focus heavily on Indiana. My point was there are 15-20 3 star players in this state that are as good or better than the truckload of 2 stars we are spending a fortune to recruit.

In addition, most of our recent top NFL players are from the state, and they wouldn't have come here if they were from Texas or Florida. Over half of our quality pass rushers over the last 20 years were instate players. Now, we have none.

I would take Tillers last 7 teams in a heartbeat over the "State of Purdue's" product thus far.

So would i.

The state of purdue was stolen from Tressel and idiotic to begin with. He never had the in with Ohio coaches people thought he did and he and his staff havent put a ton of effort into relationships in the midwest.

As for recruiting, Indiana should be a part of it, but with at most 20 P5 level recruits in a state where there are 3 P5 schools, it is going to be a battle to get them. Going to Florida, GA and TX makes sense. Wish we had more presence in Illinois, Ohio and PA.
 
Probably not, but that is a function of the talent around him, not his own.

More to quarterbacking than just physical talent. Give me a guy like Elliott any day over a guy that has an NFL arm but can't hold up under the slightest bit of pressure and has no pocket presence.
 
More to quarterbacking than just physical talent. Give me a guy like Elliott any day over a guy that has an NFL arm but can't hold up under the slightest bit of pressure and has no pocket presence.

I get that. I think Blough is very similar in terms of mental makeup.

Also, elliott didnt come in ready to go. If you recall the early part of that season, he had a lot of bad turnovers that cost games.
 
I get that. I think Blough is very similar in terms of mental makeup.

Also, elliott didnt come in ready to go. If you recall the early part of that season, he had a lot of bad turnovers that cost games.

Certainly. I attribute that mostly to the fact that he never got much meaningful experience prior to that season. I would think the hardest thing for a QB is to learn the throws you can and can't make in a real game and to his credit it seemed he picked that up in about 1/2 a season. Would have loved to have had him for another season or two. Maybe we wouldn't have had to endure Marve.
 
Certainly. I attribute that mostly to the fact that he never got much meaningful experience prior to that season. I would think the hardest thing for a QB is to learn the throws you can and can't make in a real game and to his credit it seemed he picked that up in about 1/2 a season. Would have loved to have had him for another season or two. Maybe we wouldn't have had to endure Marve.

Yeah, another season would have been nice. He and Nord seemed to click. It will be interesting to see if he breaks into front office management.
 
A loooonnnngggg time ago, I was going for a job in the athletic dept in a promotions position. One of the ideas I proposed was to go to places like Gary, the Fort, Indy, Chicago, etc and got to areas where kids are playing pick up hoops or football and start handing out Purdue t-shirts, wristbands, etc. to the youngsters. I believed that this would be a way to build brand awareness and name recognition in some areas where some solid athletes were being developed.
 
Was Chris Evans a kid that Purdue recruited? He's been tearing it up as a true frosh at Michigan and is expected to get significant PT as a slot/ rb this year
 
Was Chris Evans a kid that Purdue recruited? He's been tearing it up as a true frosh at Michigan and is expected to get significant PT as a slot/ rb this year
We didn't offer. The Haze still "taking a hard look at the film" probably.
 
One solid instate player per class is nowhere near enough - Especially when we are such a cost-conscious program. We don't have ND's budget to fly to the west coast every other day. There are 15-20 players in state every year who are better than the 2 stars we are flying to Texas, Tennessee, and Mississippi to sign.
We could have the budget, our BOT chooses to talk the talk, but not walk the walk.
 
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