If we don’t have karlaftis and bell and lose to Tennessee what do you wanna see

[BCfanatic2020]

What do you want to see? I saw one person say that with the playoff, as predicted, bowls have become December January preseason games… so, IF we do indeed not have bell and karlaftis (I’d argue we are more dependent on our two best players than almost any good team in America), and you were told that Tennessee would win in a 10 point game that’s not as close as the score, what would you wanna see?

it’s worth noting that we should look back at expectations, as even the most optimistic fans predicted 7 regular season wins. So.. if we go 8-5, seen through that lens.. still a great year, it’s still a tremendous advantage to get to run out players you’ll need next year against an opponent like Tennessee.. vs IU, Nebraska, Illinois, northwestern etc.. who don’t get to do this.

for me.. the list is as follows:

> Joe Anderson - we know what Sullivan can do.. super tough gritty player who doesn’t have tremendous burst. If we depend on him we run the risk of being a team that can’t get pressure with their front four. Not good in 2022…. If Anderson is the answer we need to find out. If he isn’t.. we need to find out. Then, were I brohm, I’d be making that position priority one in the portal and with whatever NIL money I had access to. Also a possibility Sullivan has been hampered by nagging issues or just breaks out next year.

> Oconnell out there developing chemistry with guys who will be here next year like Sheffield, Sullivan, Burks and anyone else he hasn’t already shown chemistry with.

> Yanni - if Alexander may not return (he’s done great here), I wanna see Yanni get out there and establish himself. More Wahlberg would be great as well.

those are my big ones. What are yours

 

[BoilerN]

What do you want to see? I saw one person say that with the playoff, as predicted, bowls have become December January preseason games… so, IF we do indeed not have bell and karlaftis (I’d argue we are more dependent on our two best players than almost any good team in America), and you were told that Tennessee would win in a 10 point game that’s not as close as the score, what would you wanna see?

it’s worth noting that we should look back at expectations, as even the most optimistic fans predicted 7 regular season wins. So.. if we go 8-5, seen through that lens.. still a great year, it’s still a tremendous advantage to get to run out players you’ll need next year against an opponent like Tennessee.. vs IU, Nebraska, Illinois, northwestern etc.. who don’t get to do this.

for me.. the list is as follows:

> Joe Anderson - we know what Sullivan can do.. super tough gritty player who doesn’t have tremendous burst. If we depend on him we run the risk of being a team that can’t get pressure with their front four. Not good in 2022…. If Anderson is the answer we need to find out. If he isn’t.. we need to find out. Then, were I brohm, I’d be making that position priority one in the portal and with whatever NIL money I had access to. Also a possibility Sullivan has been hampered by nagging issues or just breaks out next year.

> Oconnell out there developing chemistry with guys who will be here next year like Sheffield, Sullivan, Burks and anyone else he hasn’t already shown chemistry with.

> Yanni - if Alexander may not return (he’s done great here), I wanna see Yanni get out there and establish himself. More Wahlberg would be great as well.

those are my big ones. What are yours

I don't think Anderson is going to make or break it off of 1 game. Gimme Sullivan. Also doubt we see yanni and Wahlberg if we didn't see them much all year, which is fine. Doesn't make them bad players. Purdue should not just throw in young players and prepare for next year. That's dumb.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

What do you want to see? I saw one person say that with the playoff, as predicted, bowls have become December January preseason games… so, IF we do indeed not have bell and karlaftis (I’d argue we are more dependent on our two best players than almost any good team in America), and you were told that Tennessee would win in a 10 point game that’s not as close as the score, what would you wanna see?

it’s worth noting that we should look back at expectations, as even the most optimistic fans predicted 7 regular season wins. So.. if we go 8-5, seen through that lens.. still a great year, it’s still a tremendous advantage to get to run out players you’ll need next year against an opponent like Tennessee.. vs IU, Nebraska, Illinois, northwestern etc.. who don’t get to do this.

for me.. the list is as follows:

> Joe Anderson - we know what Sullivan can do.. super tough gritty player who doesn’t have tremendous burst. If we depend on him we run the risk of being a team that can’t get pressure with their front four. Not good in 2022…. If Anderson is the answer we need to find out. If he isn’t.. we need to find out. Then, were I brohm, I’d be making that position priority one in the portal and with whatever NIL money I had access to. Also a possibility Sullivan has been hampered by nagging issues or just breaks out next year.

> Oconnell out there developing chemistry with guys who will be here next year like Sheffield, Sullivan, Burks and anyone else he hasn’t already shown chemistry with.

> Yanni - if Alexander may not return (he’s done great here), I wanna see Yanni get out there and establish himself. More Wahlberg would be great as well.

those are my big ones. What are yours

We need to be as competitive as possible. The program can’t afford to not play its best available players against an SEC team. Don’t need another Music City Massacre.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

We need to be as competitive as possible. The program can’t afford to not play its best available players against an SEC team. Don’t need another Music City Massacre.

It’s not that I don’t want that .. I don’t think we are gonna lose by 49 without them playing in the second half

 

[BCfanatic2020]

I don't think Anderson is going to make or break it off of 1 game. Gimme Sullivan. Also doubt we see yanni and Wahlberg if we didn't see them much all year, which is fine. Doesn't make them bad players. Purdue should not just throw in young players and prepare for next year. That's dumb.

I’m talking about sprinkling them in.. not starting them … similar to IU but less so.

mark my words .. if they go into next year with Sullivan as plan A, unless he’s been severely hampered by something that would slow your burst substantially,, for his entire career thus far, or unless someone else makes the leap from “a dude” to a massive force .. we have a potential issue pre the portal

 

[BoilerN]

I’m talking about sprinkling them in.. not starting them … similar to IU but less so.

mark my words .. if they go into next year with Sullivan as plan A, unless he’s been severely hampered by something that would slow your burst substantially,, for his entire career thus far, or unless someone else makes the leap from “a dude” to a massive force .. we have a potential issue pre the portal

Your hate for Sullivan is hilarious. Sure he isn't a splash player, but he's solid and makes a lot of plays. If Sullivan starts, they won't be bad, but they won't have a true pass rusher. Outside of George, they really didn't this year. You act like Sullivan isn't big ten caliber though. Why do you think Anderson is better than Sullivan?

And na. If they didn't play throughout the season, I'm fine with them sitting. You try to win this game, not build for next year. Bowl practices are about getting those guys experience.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Your hate for Sullivan is hilarious. Sure he isn't a splash player, but he's solid and makes a lot of plays. If Sullivan starts, they won't be bad, but they won't have a true pass rusher. Outside of George, they really didn't this year. You act like Sullivan isn't big ten caliber though. Why do you think Anderson is better than Sullivan?

And na. If they didn't play throughout the season, I'm fine with them sitting. You try to win this game, not build for next year. Bowl practices are about getting those guys experience.

I don’t hate him. I love the way he plays. He objectively doesn’t have burst or closing speed to the QB. I did love his game playing across from karlaftis. If Jenkins turns into a big time DE where opposing teams are like “we HAVE to account for that guy,” then Sullivan would be nice on the other side.

that’s an appraisal of his game. You interpreting that as hate is a you thing.

 

[Tommaker]

What do you want to see? I saw one person say that with the playoff, as predicted, bowls have become December January preseason games… so, IF we do indeed not have bell and karlaftis (I’d argue we are more dependent on our two best players than almost any good team in America), and you were told that Tennessee would win in a 10 point game that’s not as close as the score, what would you wanna see?

it’s worth noting that we should look back at expectations, as even the most optimistic fans predicted 7 regular season wins. So.. if we go 8-5, seen through that lens.. still a great year, it’s still a tremendous advantage to get to run out players you’ll need next year against an opponent like Tennessee.. vs IU, Nebraska, Illinois, northwestern etc.. who don’t get to do this.

for me.. the list is as follows:

> Joe Anderson - we know what Sullivan can do.. super tough gritty player who doesn’t have tremendous burst. If we depend on him we run the risk of being a team that can’t get pressure with their front four. Not good in 2022…. If Anderson is the answer we need to find out. If he isn’t.. we need to find out. Then, were I brohm, I’d be making that position priority one in the portal and with whatever NIL money I had access to. Also a possibility Sullivan has been hampered by nagging issues or just breaks out next year.

> Oconnell out there developing chemistry with guys who will be here next year like Sheffield, Sullivan, Burks and anyone else he hasn’t already shown chemistry with.

> Yanni - if Alexander may not return (he’s done great here), I wanna see Yanni get out there and establish himself. More Wahlberg would be great as well.

those are my big ones. What are yours

Is it legal for a defensive player to literally dive over the O line in pursuit of the QB or RB? if it is, I'd like to see that. You asked.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Is it legal for a defensive player to literally dive over the O line in pursuit of the QB or RB? if it is, I'd like to see that. You asked.

Tank Johnson vs Seahawks in the playoffs end of game

 

[ImRonBurgandy?]

Sullivan has been steadily improving. Id say He's a poor man's GK. He's definitely the kind of guy you want in your program and continue to develop. I could see him having very nice year next year.

 

[tenwest]

I guess I’m the only one that thinks they’re going to play the bowl game. Just listened to Dienhart say that the chances are slim. Well if they started practice Friday then the question is did they practice? My feelings were that we were in a unique situation where our guys love to play football. I’m a football player-we gotta game-I’m playin.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Sullivan has been steadily improving. Id say He's a poor man's GK. He's definitely the kind of guy you want in your program and continue to develop. I could see him having very nice year next year.

Part of it is an unfair burden.. we are losing George. We need someone to be a primary threat. Maybe asking him to be that just because he plays George’s position vs one of the others is my flaw.

I want to be Clear.. he’s a good player and I like him and the way he plays

 

[New Pal Boiler]

It’s not that I don’t want that .. I don’t think we are gonna lose by 49 without them playing in the second half

I take it you weren’t at the Music City Massacre?

 

[BCfanatic2020]

I take it you weren’t at the Music City Massacre?

Did they start backups or something? Cause I’m not say it that.. I’m not saying UConn or even IU. I’m saying somewhere between IU and playing zero young guys …

Nebraska podcasters are over on their channels saying they are screwed next year because they played almost no young guys all year.

if bell and GK don’t play.. I say, yes of course, don’t get rolled up and smoked, but yes play some young guys

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Did they start backups or something?

We would have lost that game by 70 if our backups played the 2nd half. Unless Malzahn started feeling sorry for us.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

We would have lost that game by 70 if our backups played the 2nd half. Unless Malzahn started feeling sorry for us.

Did I suggest doing that in the music city ? There’s a way to do it and not have it mean you get blown out in a game toy otherwise would have lost by 3

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Did I suggest doing that in the music city ? There’s a way to do it and not have it mean you get blown out in a game toy otherwise would have lost by 3

“I don’t think we are gonna lose by 49 without them playing in the second half”

 

[BCfanatic2020]

“I don’t think we are gonna lose by 49 without them playing in the second half”

We aren’t… this.. isn’t that Auburn team… or.. that Purdue team. Wtf?

 

[New Pal Boiler]

We aren’t… this.. isn’t that Auburn team… or.. that Purdue team. Wtf?

Obviously it’s Tennessee. What makes you think they are so much worse and than Auburn?

And how much better is our 2021 team without Bell and Karlaftis, than our 2018 team?

Your opinion is we can play our backups the entire 2nd half and not get beat by 49. You don’t know that.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Obviously it’s Tennessee. What makes you think they are so much worse and than Auburn?

And how much better is our 2021 team without Bell and Karlaftis, than our 2018 team?

Your opinion is we can play our backups the entire 2nd half and not get beat by 49. You don’t know that.

that auburn team had the 14th ranked defense and 26th ranked offense in the nation. Tennessee’s defense ranks 85th

by that game Lorenzo Neal and Jacob thienemann were out or no?

when did I ever say whole second half?

 

[BoilerN]

Did they start backups or something? Cause I’m not say it that.. I’m not saying UConn or even IU. I’m saying somewhere between IU and playing zero young guys …

Nebraska podcasters are over on their channels saying they are screwed next year because they played almost no young guys all year.

if bell and GK don’t play.. I say, yes of course, don’t get rolled up and smoked, but yes play some young guys

Shit. What did Purdue do all season? Played primarily returning guys. The guys you are concerned about are mostly backups.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

that auburn team had the 14th ranked defense and 26th ranked offense in the nation. Tennessee’s defense ranks 85th

by that game Lorenzo Neal and Jacob thienemann were out or no?

when did I ever say whole second half?

“I don’t think we are gonna lose by 49 without them playing in the second half”

You really comparing those 2 guys to Bell and Karlaftis?

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Shit. What did Purdue do all season? Played primarily returning guys. The guys you are concerned about are mostly backups.

I don’t know why you guys are so hurt about me wanting to see a few guys sprinkled in .., all of whom have dressed the majority of whom have played

If bell doesn’t play I assume we start Thompson .. you’re telling me if Sullivan gets 5-10 snaps you’re gonna fall over because of the misery?

wahlberg had a nice ending to the IU game. If he gives Douglas a blow are you gonna pass out.

if karlaftis is out Anderson is the backup .. you’re saying you want Sullivan to play every snap?

you guys are acting like I said start mbow and moussa lol

 

[BCfanatic2020]

“I don’t think we are gonna lose by 49 without them playing in the second half”

You really comparing those 2 guys to Bell and Karlaftis?

By them I meant Tennessee .. auburn didn’t play in the second half. I meant the vols not out starters.

no. But we also aren’t up against the 26th ranked offense abs 14th ranked defense in the nation. Additionally those were two of our best defensive players and the defense got smoked.

if you had integrity in your argument you would have addressed my auburn part

 

[BoilerN]

I don’t know why you guys are so hurt about me wanting to see a few guys sprinkled in .., all of whom have dressed the majority of whom have played

If bell doesn’t play I assume we start Thompson .. you’re telling me if Sullivan gets 5-10 snaps you’re gonna fall over because of the misery?

wahlberg had a nice ending to the IU game. If he gives Douglas a blow are you gonna pass out.

if karlaftis is out Anderson is the backup .. you’re saying you want Sullivan to play every snap?

you guys are acting like I said start mbow and moussa lol

If he's not ready to provide meaningful snaps, no, I don't want him to play.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

If he's not ready to provide meaningful snaps, no, I don't want him to play.

Didn’t Anderson get a sack against northwestern?

@nat100 i thought linemen aren’t supposed to play the whole game?

 

[BoilerN]

Didn’t Anderson get a sack against northwestern?

@nat100 i thought linemen aren’t supposed to play the whole game?

You pick the one guy of the ones you mentioned that plays a couple snaps a game...

 

[mediaexpert]

During the offseason, I predicted we would go 8-4 or better this year, I argued with somebody saying O'Connell and Horvath are at least Honorable mention all stars. I sincerely believe that with Horvath starting healthy every game, we were 9-3 and possibly 10-2 even though statistically he did not have a good year when he came back. I also thought Dorue and Plummer played well in their absence, but these other guys have the "a little bit" more.

During the Bowl practices, I would like to see more concentration on getting their backups ready in case either of them don't come back.

BTW, I will be shocked if Bell and Karlaftis don't play in the Bowl.

 

[boilermaker75]

Leach's take on players opting out of bowl games,

Mike Leach: Players opting out of bowl games 'one of the biggest absurdities that I've seen'

Mississippi State coach Mike Leach said players opting out of bowl games is "one of the biggest absurdities that I've seen, and it's selfish too."

sports.yahoo.com

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Leach's take on players opting out of bowl games,

Mike Leach: Players opting out of bowl games 'one of the biggest absurdities that I've seen'

Mississippi State coach Mike Leach said players opting out of bowl games is "one of the biggest absurdities that I've seen, and it's selfish too."

sports.yahoo.com

Must have been because of their fat little girlfriends (his words not mine)

 

[BSIT]

Leach's take on players opting out of bowl games,

Mike Leach: Players opting out of bowl games 'one of the biggest absurdities that I've seen'

Mississippi State coach Mike Leach said players opting out of bowl games is "one of the biggest absurdities that I've seen, and it's selfish too."

sports.yahoo.com

If I were to put money on a bet whether one or both play, I'd bet the bank they both play.

 

[Level 42]

If I were to put money on a bet whether one or both play, I'd bet the bank they both play.

You'd lose sadly. It was just announced they are not playing. Don't blame them, not worth the risk.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

You'd lose sadly. It was just announced they are not playing. Don't blame them, not worth the risk.

Where?

 

[BSIT]

You'd lose sadly. It was just announced they are not playing. Don't blame them, not worth the risk.

Thanks for saving me money. Is this official? If this is the case why did they play in a meaningless IU game. Slippery slope but I don't agree with it. So would they sit out the Rose Bowl too?

 

[purduepat1969]

You'd lose sadly. It was just announced they are not playing. Don't blame them, not worth the risk.

I understand it from their perspective. It's their future. However, it sucks for the rest of the team.

Players may as well start forgoing the latter half of the season if their team stinks. No reason to get hurt for a losing record, right? That's the slippery slope this presents...

 

[Level 42]

Where?

 

[Level 42]

I understand it from their perspective. It's their future. However, it sucks for the rest of the team.

Players may as well start forgoing the latter half of the season if their team stinks. No reason to get hurt for a losing record, right? That's the slippery slope this presents...

I get what you're saying but it is what it is. Chance for others to step up because winning or losing is rather irrelevant really.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

I get what you're saying but it is what it is. Chance for others to step up because winning or losing is rather irrelevant really.

I am so thankful to them both.. they’ve already done their part. I don’t think we will beat Tennessee without them. Let’s just not get blown out and try to get some guys some run

 

[BCfanatic2020]

I understand it from their perspective. It's their future. However, it sucks for the rest of the team.

Players may as well start forgoing the latter half of the season if their team stinks. No reason to get hurt for a losing record, right? That's the slippery slope this presents...

Im glad George and David never thought in those terms. Super fortunate to have had them as long as we did

 

[FirstDownB]

Back to the OP of what I'd like to see, if I could have one wish it would be for one of our guys step up and do this: