If Biggie leaves .....

[Wolegib]

on a related note, if Biggie leaves, how long do you think it will be before Painter gives out a scholarship to replace him? and will it be a grad transfer or 4 year high school player? Rather than mentioning names. I think Painter has brought in enough prospects already for evaluations. and if you want to talk about a specific player, you can revisit that thread.

My opinion is Painter will agree to sign a transfer by this Sunday. I believe he's already made up his mind on a possible replacement.

 

[StickPurdue]

on a related note, if Biggie leaves, how long do you think it will be before Painter gives out a scholarship to replace him? and will it be a grad transfer or 4 year high school player? Rather than mentioning names. I think Painter has brought in enough prospects already for evaluations. and if you want to talk about a specific player, you can revisit that thread.

My opinion is Painter will agree to sign a transfer by this Sunday. I believe he's already made up his mind on a possible replacement.

I hope Painter pockets the scholarship if Biggie stays in the NBA draft. There is nothing of value or impact that would be worth taking a scholarship away from the '18 or '19 classes. A lot of talent that has Purdue high on their boards.

 

[TC4THREE]

Might go to a walk-on. Just depends on what comes our way over the summer. You never know when a Jon Octeus might fall in your lap. Only this year, our Jon Octeus would probably be a 6-8 PF who averages 10 and 8 and can protect the rim.

 

[nagemj02]

on a related note, if Biggie leaves, how long do you think it will be before Painter gives out a scholarship to replace him? and will it be a grad transfer or 4 year high school player? Rather than mentioning names. I think Painter has brought in enough prospects already for evaluations. and if you want to talk about a specific player, you can revisit that thread.

My opinion is Painter will agree to sign a transfer by this Sunday. I believe he's already made up his mind on a possible replacement.

I think a grad transfer is still a possibility. Who knows how long it will take? It seems like anything that's incoming (commitments, transfers, etc.) always takes longer than average to happen ever since Painter's been the HC. Octeus' transfer to Purdue wasn't announced until like a month (or less) before practice started a few years ago.

 

[nagemj02]

Might go to a walk-on. Just depends on what comes our way over the summer. You never know when a Jon Octeus might fall in your lap. Only this year, our Jon Octeus would probably be a 6-8 PF who averages 10 and 8 and can protect the rim.

I don't like either option but if I HAD to choose between the two, I would rather they bank the scholarship instead of wasting it (talent-wise) by giving it to someone that's a walk-on. There's a reason players are walk-ons at differing levels of college athletics and unless they make vast improvement (Jim Rowinski is one of the exceptions) during their time in the program, they should continue to remain walk-ons if you want to see the program striving to be at the top of college basketball.

 

[Wolegib]

Does Purdue have any non-scholarship player worthy of a scholarship for their senior year?

 

[cjf04]

I don't like either option but if I HAD to choose between the two, I would rather they bank the scholarship instead of wasting it (talent-wise) by giving it to someone that's a walk-on. There's a reason players are walk-ons at differing levels of college athletics and unless they make vast improvement (Jim Rowinski is one of the exceptions) during their time in the program, they should continue to remain walk-ons if you want to see the program striving to be at the top of college basketball.

I think you're missing the point Nag, you give the scholarship to a current "walk-on" for 2017 only, thus "banking" it for future talent in 2018 or 2019......the only way you "waste it" is by giving it to questionable talent for 2017 that never pans out but sits the pine for 4 years using that scholarship......

 

[Wolegib]

Looking at what is left of the 2017 class, I have to believe there is not a player except Bowen that Painter would give a scholarship to under normal circumstances! He should not just give a scholarship out just because one beomes available

 

[TC4THREE]

If there is an extra scholarship, it doesn't hurt to give it to a multi-year walk-on for a season. Nice reward for their contributions to the program. Better than wasting it on a marginal players that would sit at the end of the bench for multiple years.

 

[Bigjon2015]

A Grad transfer big man could do some good for us. Even if he doesn't play a whole lot he could give us a little extra depth and maybe make practice a little more competitive. could give our players a different look during practice. And if he is good enough to play a lot then that would be great too. We would still have all our 2018 schollies. I would say no more 2-4 year players in this class unless they're fantastic.

 

[Wolegib]

I think we're mostly in agreement the type of player to go after. Since we have the university gAmes taking up a chunk of the Summer, I'm going to be bold and say I believe Painter has already reached agreement with somebody and it will be announced within the week! Painter has too many other things going on to string this thing out all Summer!

 

[nagemj02]

I think you're missing the point Nag, you give the scholarship to a current "walk-on" for 2017 only, thus "banking" it for future talent in 2018 or 2019......the only way you "waste it" is by giving it to questionable talent for 2017 that never pans out but sits the pine for 4 years using that scholarship......

You're missing my point. I don't want the coaching staff rushing to give one of the walk-ons a scholarship after Swanigan's decision has been made. There are still grad transfers available that would provide more on-court value and production than any of the current walk-ons.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

You're missing my point. I don't want the coaching staff rushing to give one of the walk-ons a scholarship after Swanigan's decision has been made. There are still grad transfers available that would provide more on-court value and production than any of the current walk-ons.

Here is a linked list to current available grad transfers (5/18/17):

http://www.sbnation.com/college-bas...sfers-2017-18-the-best-grad-players-available

Manny Suarez is an intriguing player who seemed to have dominated in the DII level. At 6'10 and 225 he could provide solid depth at the center position in the event that Taylor is injured and Haarms isn't quite ready to contribute fully.

16.9 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 1.2 apg, .5552 FG%, .319 3pt%, 0.4 spg, 1.9 bpg

Kameron Rooks might be an option as well with a connection to Cuonzo Martin during his time at Cal. Big body player who would fit well in Purdue's system of being a post oriented team. He is 7' and 265.

4.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.3 apg, .547 FG%, n/a 3pt%, 0.2 spg, 0.9 bpg

 

[Wolegib]

admittedly, none of us have seen Taylor play very much. and a lot of people assume he could play C or PF. The same has been said about Ewing. But to be truthful, what are their real positions ? And the same goes for Haarms. Can Taylor and Haarms effectively slide over and play PF? If Biggie leaves, and we filled his void with a grad transfer for one year, what would be our greatest void/need? a back-up PF or C ?

 

[Dryfly88]

admittedly, none of us have seen Taylor play very much. and a lot of people assume he could play C or PF. The same has been said about Ewing. But to be truthful, what are their real positions ? And the same goes for Haarms. Can Taylor and Haarms effectively slide over and play PF? If Biggie leaves, and we filled his void with a grad transfer for one year, what would be our greatest void/need? a back-up PF or C ?

I look at them as the same thing. We would need a big body capable of rebounding and defending the paint. You can call them either one I believe.

 

[boilerzz]

Here is a linked list to current available grad transfers (5/18/17):

http://www.sbnation.com/college-bas...sfers-2017-18-the-best-grad-players-available

Manny Suarez is an intriguing player who seemed to have dominated in the DII level. At 6'10 and 225 he could provide solid depth at the center position in the event that Taylor is injured and Haarms isn't quite ready to contribute fully.

16.9 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 1.2 apg, .5552 FG%, .319 3pt%, 0.4 spg, 1.9 bpg

Kameron Rooks might be an option as well with a connection to Cuonzo Martin during his time at Cal. Big body player who would fit well in Purdue's system of being a post oriented team. He is 7' and 265.

4.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.3 apg, .547 FG%, n/a 3pt%, 0.2 spg, 0.9 bpg

Suarez committed to Creighton. Rooks is likely headed to Gonzaga, who he has a previous contact with and is losing three 7 footers.

 

[TC4THREE]

You're missing my point. I don't want the coaching staff rushing to give one of the walk-ons a scholarship after Swanigan's decision has been made. There are still grad transfers available that would provide more on-court value and production than any of the current walk-ons.

And they wouldn't do it until the end of the summer if they were going to do it.

 

[Wolegib]

And they wouldn't do it until the end of the summer if they were going to do it.

I just think with the university games, and Painter hot on the 2018 recruiting class, that the decision will a quick one. We all know how many players have visited.

 

[ahhculdee]

Grad transfer at PF would be likely if Biggie leaves

 

[TC4THREE]

I just think with the university games, and Painter hot on the 2018 recruiting class, that the decision will a quick one. We all know how many players have visited.

I don't think it's a terribly difficult decision. You keep looking for someone that can help you. If you can't find it by the end of the summer, you award it to a walk on. People are talking like it would be easy to find someone to just come in for a year and try to fit in with what we already have. Those transfers are looking for opportunity too. Someone may be attracted to going to a team that has an opportunity for success even if that isn't the option that gives them the most court time. Many others may well just want to find a place they can play the most and "showcase" themselves. Has to be a good fit and they have to want to come play at Purdue as well.

I'm hoping Swanigan makes this whole discussion irrelevant.

 

[Wolegib]

on a related note, when did Spike say he wanted to transfer and play for Purdue ? if not mistaken, there was an early agreement, but it took awhile before Michigan and the BIG 10 approved his release and allowed him to sign.

Admittedly, a grad transfer could be a late last minute signee. but with the flexible eligibility rules to play in the university games where even past players can participate, I would think a grad transfer might want to sign early and have a chance to play in the games. I have to believe the university games will be a big factor in determining the shape and minutes of next year's team . if I'm a grad transfer, I'd rather be on Purdue's team and play in those games, than be added after the fact later this Summer.

 

[nagemj02]

How far back is Purdue allowed to go, in terms of former players being eligible to play with the team in the WUG?

 

[WabashRiver]

Jacquil has to be ready.

 

[Wolegib]

When it was first announced, it was said former players even if they were in the pros could play. And it mentioned something about Hammons being eligible. I'm not sure, but believe it had something to do with their age.

 

[Wolegib]

from their site : The World University Games are held every other year (2017, 2019, etc.), and are organized by the International University Sports Federation (FISU). The World University Games is a multi-sport competition open to men and women who are between the ages of 17 and 24, and are or have been within the past year, a student at a college or university. The next World University Games are scheduled to be held in 2017 in Taipei, Taiwan.

 

[Wolegib]

from their site : The World University Games are held every other year (2017, 2019, etc.), and are organized by the International University Sports Federation (FISU). The World University Games is a multi-sport competition open to men and women who are between the ages of 17 and 24, and are or have been within the past year, a student at a college or university. The next World University Games are scheduled to be held in 2017 in Taipei, Taiwan.

Would it be a stretch to say Hammons would be eligible ? he's under 24, and played for Purdue in part of 2016 .

 

[Schnelk]

I think it's great we get to play in the world games but why in the heck would we bring Hammons or anybody else back when we have this opportunity to further develope our current/incoming team/roster???

 

[Wolegib]

I think it's great we get to play in the world games but why in the heck would we bring Hammons or anybody else back when we have this opportunity to further develope our current/incoming team/roster???

Because the USA also wants Purdue to not only participate, but to WIN ! Purdue was not selected to play in these games just to use them as extra practices to evaluate our talent and use it to determine next year's starters. The USA selected Purdue to represent the US of A .

As it stands now, Haarms is not eligible to play because of his nationality. Biggie may be too busy playing NBA summer league ball to participate.

Adding Hammons may seem odd, but under the rules, it seems possible.

 

[02Boilermaker]

Adding Hammons may seem odd, but under the rules, it seems possible.

What's the benefit for the Mavs? I can't figure out why they would allow AJH to play in an exhibition tournament against college kids when he is under contract for (i think) about $1.3mil guaranteed next yr.

 

[Wolegib]

Ok. it's very doubtful he would play. But, by their rules it's possible.

Somebody else who could participate would be Spike ! And Spike may actually take them up on the offer to play.

 

[nagemj02]

Rapheal Davis would be eligible as well. He's 23 years old.

Jon Octeus and Johnny Hill are both 25, so they won't be available.

 

[nagemj02]

Does Purdue have any non-scholarship player worthy of a scholarship for their senior year?

nope

Eifert will be a junior and Luce a sophomore.