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I don't really follow women's basketball but....

Sadly now, it seems it is a sport at Purdue just to fullfill Title IX. Our leaders act like they don't care what it has become. Now the fanbase is at an alltime low and that doesn't even sway them. They'll let her run her contract out for another year of our misery. I'm surprised they haven't ruined volleyball also.
 
If she wasn't a beloved former player - she would've been gone. But they're going to give her 1 more shot because - well Bobinski really doesn't care because it's all about the bottom line - that of which WBB doesn't affect. I really have no clue how they are going to recruit any talent that's going to help move the needle forward.
 
If she wasn't a beloved former player - she would've been gone. But they're going to give her 1 more shot because - well Bobinski really doesn't care because it's all about the bottom line - that of which WBB doesn't affect. I really have no clue how they are going to recruit any talent that's going to help move the needle forward.
In fairness, the 3 recruits on paper look to be pretty solid, she said she’s going to hit the portal hard, better get legit players, MAC ones or girls that average 8-10 pts a game from smaller schools won’t cut the mustard.
 
In fairness, the 3 recruits on paper look to be pretty solid, she said she’s going to hit the portal hard, better get legit players, MAC ones or girls that average 8-10 pts a game from smaller schools won’t cut the mustard.

Yes - but she has to win NOW. Are they talented players with loads of potential? Sure. But they are still freshmen post players who will take time to develop. All-American, top 20 elite post players - which they are not - still take time to develop. The one thing that may work more in our favor is the majority of these Covid kids will have exhausted their eligibility after this year so much less 5th, 6th year seniors to compete against - meaning less experienced players - and we can finally get back to somewhat normality - a whopping 5 years after covid started.
 
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Sadly now, it seems it is a sport at Purdue just to fullfill Title IX. Our leaders act like they don't care what it has become. Now the fanbase is at an alltime low and that doesn't even sway them. They'll let her run her contract out for another year of our misery. I'm surprised they haven't ruined volleyball also.
Bobo the clown will if Shondell retires before Bobo is fired
 
Disappointing, I was really hoping she would be successful.
Honestly, I could still get behind Gearlds if she can show tangible, steady progress. The downward progression of the program the last 3 years is very concerning---especially considering how the B1G has grown.

It'll be a monumental challenge. I'm not encouraged by the "hit the portal hard" rhetoric. This looks like a longer term ground-up rebuild. Purdue needs leadership committed to reestablishing a winning mentality in all phases of the program.

If Gearlds can do that, great. But if not I think it's time to move on.
 
Honestly, I could still get behind Gearlds if she can show tangible, steady progress. The downward progression of the program the last 3 years is very concerning---especially considering how the B1G has grown.

It'll be a monumental challenge. I'm not encouraged by the "hit the portal hard" rhetoric. This looks like a longer term ground-up rebuild. Purdue needs leadership committed to reestablishing a winning mentality in all phases of the program.

If Gearlds can do that, great. But if not I think it's time to move on.
I think we all see who she is a a coach by now. The only remaining question is when will the results embarrass Bobo the clown enough to remove her?
 
I think we all see who she is a a coach by now. The only remaining question is when will the results embarrass Bobo the clown enough to remove her?
Could be. Maybe giving Gearlds another year is just a hope and a prayer. Maybe it's Bobinski's fig leaf of loyalty toward one of Purdue's all-time greats until her buy-out becomes more manageable.

But, Katie has the opportunity, and we'll see what she does with it.

Painter had his back against the wall after Purdue dropped from B1G champion to last place in just 3 years. He reevaluated, made productive adjustments, and rebuilt. We'll see what Gearlds does facing what looks like a tougher climb.
 
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Painter also had a history of success at D1 and his teams never looked incompetent and uncoached
Absolutely. Gearlds will have to do something unprecedented in her career to survive and thrive at Purdue. But that's how coaches grow. She'll either rise to meet this challenge or go back to a level where she's had more proven success.

We'll see.
 
Looking at the latest Bracketology and if it stands - 18 of our 29 games this season were against NCAA tournament teams. That's a whopping 62% of our games. Will have played 3 of 4 - 1 seeds, a 2 seed and 6 total games against top 5 seeds.

Not an excuse - but that's a TOUGH schedule for a team not even close to having the talent to compete against that. 10-19 should not shock anyone.
 
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Looking at the latest Bracketology and if it stands - 18 of our 29 games this season were against NCAA tournament teams. That's a whopping 62% of our games. Will have played 3 of 4 - 1 seeds, a 2 seed and 6 total games against top 5 seeds.

Not an excuse - but that's a TOUGH schedule for a team not even close to having the talent to compete against that. 10-19 should not shock anyone.
Wow.
That is a tough schedule.
The BIG is a gauntlet. Especially since adding the West Coast teams.
I guess we'll see if KG can get it done.
 
Looking at the latest Bracketology and if it stands - 18 of our 29 games this season were against NCAA tournament teams. That's a whopping 62% of our games. Will have played 3 of 4 - 1 seeds, a 2 seed and 6 total games against top 5 seeds.

Not an excuse - but that's a TOUGH schedule for a team not even close to having the talent to compete against that. 10-19 should not shock anyone.
I can agree on the schedule and record. But, Purdue was annihilated by 30, 40, even 50 points way too many times.

I work at UT-Martin. Our women's basketball team finished exactly in the middle of the Ohio Valley Conference (13-19/10-10/#212 NET). UTM faced three elite opponents this year:

Tennessee (road) 50-90
Louisville (home) 64-86
UCLA (neutral) 37-97

So, against elite competition, Purdue did about the same (or maybe marginally better) than a mid-level OVC team. That can't be acceptable for a program of Purdue's stature.

Full disclosure: that's not to suggest an overall equivalence. Purdue went 8-0 against Quad 4 whereas UTM was 11-15.
 
I can agree on the schedule and record. But, Purdue was annihilated by 30, 40, even 50 points way too many times.

I work at UT-Martin. Our women's basketball team finished exactly in the middle of the Ohio Valley Conference (13-19/10-10/#212 NET). UTM faced three elite opponents this year:

Tennessee (road) 50-90
Louisville (home) 64-86
UCLA (neutral) 37-97

So, against elite competition, Purdue did about the same (or maybe marginally better) than a mid-level OVC team. That can't be acceptable for a program of Purdue's stature.

Full disclosure: that's not to suggest an overall equivalence. Purdue went 8-0 against Quad 4 whereas UTM was 11-15.

It's hard to really tell - a lot of top ranked teams play schools differently because they know how they will be perceived when it comes to NCAA seeding and how that is determined. For example - the difference between a 1 seed or a 2 seed - based on how many "impressive" wins they get. The process really is splitting hairs by the end of it and the coaches know this. I say this because a 40 pt win against UTM and a 40 pt win against a Big Ten team like Purdue will hold much different weight come selection Sunday. The coaches know this. So that will inevitably leave them to play teams like Purdue and UTM very differently. They will go much easier on a UTM - a team they could probably beat them by 70-80 pts if they want to - but obviously they don't want to play their starters anymore than they have to thus only beating them by 40.

Against Purdue - completely different game plan as they want to beat a P4 school by as much as possible and they will do all they can to do that.

So I say all this - its kind of impossible to compare losses when you comparing two very different stature programs. I think it's a mistake to say UTM and Purdue are on the same level because they are losing to elite teams by the same margins because this Purdue team - as talently challenged as they are - would beat a 13-19 UTM by 25-30 pts rather easily.
 
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It's hard to really tell - a lot of top ranked teams play schools differently because they know how they will be perceived when it comes to NCAA seeding and how that is determined. For example - the difference between a 1 seed or a 2 seed - based on how many "impressive" wins they get. The process really is splitting hairs by the end of it and the coaches know this. I say this because a 40 pt win against UTM and a 40 pt win against a Big Ten team like Purdue will hold much different weight come selection Sunday. The coaches know this. So that will inevitably leave them to play teams like Purdue and UTM very differently. They will go much easier on a UTM - a team they could probably beat them by 70-80 pts if they want to - but obviously they don't want to play their starters anymore than they have to thus only beating them by 40.

Against Purdue - completely different game plan as they want to beat a P4 school by as much as possible and they will do all they can to do that.

So I say all this - its kind of impossible to compare losses when you comparing two very different stature programs. I think it's a mistake to say UTM and Purdue are on the same level because they are losing to elite teams by the same margins because this Purdue team - as talently challenged as they are - would beat a 13-19 UTM by 25-30 pts rather easily.
Oh, don't misunderstand me---I'm not saying the two programs are anywhere close to the same level. They're not. That's why I added the caveat at the end about Quad 4 games.

But, I will say this: I watched both teams quite a bit this year (have UTM season tickets). And in those games against elite opponents, I often had a hard time seeing much difference.
 
Oh, don't misunderstand me---I'm not saying the two programs are anywhere close to the same level. They're not. That's why I added the caveat at the end about Quad 4 games.

But, I will say this: I watched both teams quite a bit this year (have UTM season tickets). And in those games against elite opponents, I often had a hard time seeing much difference.

That's because the coaches took two very different approaches to the game. For instance - UL was able to beat UTM by 22 pts and they only played their starters an average of 20 minutes. They played their bench a ton. Ok. So Purdue, hypothetically loses to UL by 20ish points. But UL plays their starters 30+ min against Purdue. Would you say those two games would be very comparable? I know it looks the same - but the games are being played much differently. If UL played their starters only 20 min and they are beating Purdue handedly then sure - make the comparison.
 
That's because the coaches took two very different approaches to the game. For instance - UL was able to beat UTM by 22 pts and they only played their starters an average of 20 minutes. They played their bench a ton. Ok. So Purdue, hypothetically loses to UL by 20ish points. But UL plays their starters 30+ min against Purdue. Would you say those two games would be very comparable? I know it looks the same - but the games are being played much differently. If UL played their starters only 20 min and they are beating Purdue handedly then sure - make the comparison.

Okay, so now explain why we lost to Big Ten teams by much greater margins than PSU and Northwestern....
 
That's because the coaches took two very different approaches to the game. For instance - UL was able to beat UTM by 22 pts and they only played their starters an average of 20 minutes. They played their bench a ton. Ok. So Purdue, hypothetically loses to UL by 20ish points. But UL plays their starters 30+ min against Purdue. Would you say those two games would be very comparable? I know it looks the same - but the games are being played much differently. If UL played their starters only 20 min and they are beating Purdue handedly then sure - make the comparison.
It's hard to say definitively because the two teams played only one common opponent: UCLA. According to ESPN box scores, UCLA starters played 110 minutes against UTM and 105 minutes against Purdue.

Again, this isn't really trying to compare the two teams. Purdue was better. Much better--about 80 spots higher in the NET. That said, I was often struck by how Purdue didn't seem to look much better against elite competition than a mid-level OVC team.
 
It's hard to say definitively because the two teams played only one common opponent: UCLA. According to ESPN box scores, UCLA starters played 110 minutes against UTM and 105 minutes against Purdue.

Again, this isn't really trying to compare the two teams. Purdue was better. Much better--about 80 spots higher in the NET. That said, I was often struck by how Purdue didn't seem to look much better against elite competition than a mid-level OVC team.
Purdue's worst problem was its inability to get out of the gate fighting. In all of those 30 40 50! !games the game was essentially over by the end of the first quarter. After that Purdue was climbing a mountain while the opponent was coasting. Not a good recipe for success at any level. But November is just a few months away...
 
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Purdue's worst problem was its inability to get out of the gate fighting. In all of those 30 40 50! !games the game was essentially over by the end of the first quarter. After that Purdue was climbing a mountain while the opponent was coasting. Not a good recipe for success at any level. But November is just a few months away...
UGH, another year with this shit show of a coaching staff..... I cannot wait.......
 
I just read that Purdue and the Reynolds family may be parting ways. That's three players who may be transferring. I really hope Rashunda doesn't make it four. If she can dial in her 3 point shot, she could be All Big Ten next season.
 
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I just read that Purdue and the Reynolds family may be parting ways. That's three players who may be transferring. I really hope Rashunda doesn't make it four. If she can dial in her 3 point shot, she could be All Big Ten next season.
So, if the Reynolds sisters are two outgoing transferring, who's the third?
 
Sadly now, it seems it is a sport at Purdue just to fullfill Title IX. Our leaders act like they don't care what it has become. Now the fanbase is at an alltime low and that doesn't even sway them. They'll let her run her contract out for another year of our misery. I'm surprised they haven't ruined volleyball also.
Not before we give her a raise
 
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Gearlds just seems to be a novice at all this. Which she is. I'm sorry but no amount of NAIA training will get one ready for high major P4 basketball and recruiting in a conference filled with truly elite programs. I get that she was supposed to be SV's associate HC for a year to learn from the "master" *eye roll* - but even that wouldn't have prepared her for this. This is a reallllyyy difficult job. 1000% more than it was 10 years ago. With the inclusion of the 4 west coast program - the transfer portal - the fact that programs all around us made some really really good hires and have turned around their former dormant programs. It's just a hard job. I get that you want to get your true freshmen in and try and develop them to be good players. That sounded all good 20 years ago when Painter took over a horrible program and did just that. Well guess what - KG walked into a completely different climate. What Painter did 20 years ago doesn't cut it now. What she is doing is just asking for really bad years and us as fans want our favorite team to win NOW. So what do you do? Get a magic wand out and get a bunch of impact talent right away?

KG's entire game plan was to secure the 3 Reynolds girls + Spider - and then build a team around them since all 4 can play together out on the court. And that seems to potentially have completely fallen apart which is disastrous as a HC trying to turn a program into something.
 
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I just read that Purdue and the Reynolds family may be parting ways. That's three players who may be transferring. I really hope Rashunda doesn't make it four. If she can dial in her 3 point shot, she could be All Big Ten next season.

Curious where you read this?
 
Gearlds just seems to be a novice at all this. Which she is. I'm sorry but no amount of NAIA training will get one ready for high major P4 basketball and recruiting in a conference filled with truly elite programs. I get that she was supposed to be SV's associate HC for a year to learn from the "master" *eye roll* - but even that wouldn't have prepared her for this. This is a reallllyyy difficult job. 1000% more than it was 10 years ago. With the inclusion of the 4 west coast program - the transfer portal - the fact that programs all around us made some really really good hires and have turned around their former dormant programs. It's just a hard job. I get that you want to get your true freshmen in and try and develop them to be good players. That sounded all good 20 years ago when Painter took over a horrible program and did just that. Well guess what - KG walked into a completely different climate. What Painter did 20 years ago doesn't cut it now. What she is doing is just asking for really bad years and us as fans want our favorite team to win NOW. So what do you do? Get a magic wand out and get a bunch of impact talent right away?

KG's entire game plan was to secure the 3 Reynolds girls + Spider - and then build a team around them since all 4 can play together out on the court. And that seems to potentially have completely fallen apart which is disastrous as a HC trying to turn a program into something.
Its funny how 8 years as a head coach at NAIA is worth more than being a D1 assistant when you were cheering this as a great hire, and that she would be better than Ralph and Mosely; but now that she is clearly failing you are working my side of the street saying what I was saying around 4 years ago when she was hired.
 
I just read that Purdue and the Reynolds family may be parting ways. That's three players who may be transferring. I really hope Rashunda doesn't make it four. If she can dial in her 3 point shot, she could be All Big Ten next season.
And if my grandma had wheels she would be a wagon. The percentage of players that fundamentally change their game, or add a reliable 3 point shot when they were never a good 3 point shooter before is miniscule. The skills she has are likely to be all she will ever have, just improving those year over year with good coaching. Its remarkable enough she developed a pull up and mid-range shot this season. Also I would say her chances of being all big ten are close to winning the lottery level of odds.
 
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And if my grandma had wheels she would be a wagon. The percentage of players that fundamentally change their game, or add a reliable 3 point shot when they were never a good 3 point shooter before is miniscule. The skills she has are likely to be all she will ever have, just improving those year over year with good coaching. Its remarkable enough she developed a pull up and mid-range shot this season. Also I would say her chances of being all big ten are close to winning the lottery level of odds.
I have to agree with you here, there are exceptions of course, but most players seem to have around the same shooting level from HS to college lvl. Jones was never much of a 3 pt shooter in HS, you could even read the Purdue roster bio of her and there is no mention of 3 pt %, 3 pt makes etc.

Whereas Mckenna Layden's 3pt% is listed along with how many she made.

I like Spider alot, she's my favorite player to watch, but I don't think she'll ever be a good 3 pt shooter, and she doesn't have to be. She contributes in other areas that still make her an effective player. Personally, I'd be happy if she could shoot around 31-32% from 3pt.

I do think she'll be back next season. She did commit to Purdue before the Reynolds came along.
 
Was this presented as Purdue parting ways with the Reynolds family or the Reynolds pulling away from Purdue? If Gearlds wasn’t happy with work ethic or something and said so, I might have a little respect for that.
 
Was this presented as Purdue parting ways with the Reynolds family or the Reynolds pulling away from Purdue? If Gearlds wasn’t happy with work ethic or something and said so, I might have a little respect for that.
Could be mutual. I have a subscription to On3 and read in Thursday’s “Boiling Over” article that the family and WBB are expected to part ways after a tough season. This info was included in a segment about the MBB recruiting that wondered if the younger brother would still be coming to Purdue.

Out of respect for this being premium content at G&B I won’t copy & paste the exact verbiage. Also, If you listen to CKG’s post-IU remarks to Mike Carmin (I think it’s on YouTube) she makes a comment that implies some players need to work harder & commit to getting better. It was something along the lines of “it’s up to them..”. Seemed to me to be directed at the PG position. I found it to be less than complimentary. See what you think if you haven’t listened to it yet.
 
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Well let’s be honest, the two we had didn’t exactly impress much. Even when players return from injury, you can usually see their potential. I didn’t see much from either of them.
 
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Well let’s be honest, the two we had didn’t exactly impress much. Even when players return from injury, you can usually see their potential. I didn’t see much from either of them.
Absolutely agree with this. Was hopeful the younger one - Amiyah - would grow into the PG role that CKG said she envisioned her becoming, but it never seemed to happen. I know she missed tons of time following an injury, and maybe just never got back to the level projected for her.
 
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