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I can remember when

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I used to think that we had a chance to win every game we played. Haven't felt that way in a long, long time. Over the last 46 years I have missed maybe 10 home games and always used to feel good going into the game. Felt that we always had a chance. But starting with the last 2-3 years of Tiller when he quit recruiting and seemed to have lost his fire, followed by 4 horrendous years of Danny noHope, and now the DH era that feeling has disappeared. Our talent level is down and the coaching is lacking. We have a 6,000,000 buyout of DH, so that means that we are stuck with him for more years. Will we ever get back to at least being mediocre? Would love for the days of great football to reappear. I remember when fans used to rip Jack Mollenkopf and all he did was win almost 80% of his games the last 6 years he coached. We just kept getting better and better each year. Now we seem to be getting worse and worse. Can't get much worse. Is there a fix for our once respected football program?
 
The fix would involve a university president and BOT that gave a rat's rear end, but Purdue doesn't have that situation. I believe now the fix is NO MORE $ spent on Purdue football or Purdue contributions until such time as the aforementioned president and BOT are forced to care.
 
I used to think that we had a chance to win every game we played. Haven't felt that way in a long, long time. Over the last 46 years I have missed maybe 10 home games and always used to feel good going into the game. Felt that we always had a chance. But starting with the last 2-3 years of Tiller when he quit recruiting and seemed to have lost his fire, followed by 4 horrendous years of Danny noHope, and now the DH era that feeling has disappeared. Our talent level is down and the coaching is lacking. We have a 6,000,000 buyout of DH, so that means that we are stuck with him for more years. Will we ever get back to at least being mediocre? Would love for the days of great football to reappear. I remember when fans used to rip Jack Mollenkopf and all he did was win almost 80% of his games the last 6 years he coached. We just kept getting better and better each year. Now we seem to be getting worse and worse. Can't get much worse. Is there a fix for our once respected football program?
You have a good memory. I feel like we are on a deserted island with only meager resources present and miles of water around us. We can see another island with a light shining each night a few miles away but will it be better? I think in my mind it has to be better but it will take much pain, many resources, energy, risk and chance to get there. We decide to go for it now and not wait any longer. It ends up being much better but it took a lot of pain to get there. The moral of the story I think is to go for it now and don't look back. Pay the ransom fee now and move on. As you say, it can't get much worse than rock bottom.

Hell, even University of Idaho got their second win last weekend.
 
The program could be resurrected but it would cost a lot of money and require too much effort - and all this money and effort might not even work. It's much easier just to stay the course and let everyone get used to it - a couple more seasons of this and we will develop a taste for being 2-10 or 1-11 and then it will all be ok. We'll get used to doing other things on Saturdays - maybe get more into golfing or take up geocaching - and our lives will naturally adjust to the new "normal" sort of like when new blood vessles grow in to replace ones that are blocked.

We are currently working our way through the stages of grief and this is all very normal and healthy. Most of us are at stage 2 now. A few are still stuck at #1 and some are further along.

1. Denial - "Hope left the cupboard bare" or "This rebuild will take a while" or "We are just a QB change away from the promise land."
2. Anger - "Fire Shoop/Burke/Hazell these guys are terrible!!!"
3. Bargaining - "Well, I'll stay off the boards for a few days and not watch the game Saturday and then check back in and see if things are better."
4. Depression - "This is the worst team and Hazell is the worst coach ever and why is this happening to me and my beloved alma mater? What did I do to deserve this?"
5. Acceptance - "It is not ok that Purdue football is so terrible but I have accepted it and my yard has no stray leaves, my handicap is into single digits, and I found my 1,000 geocache last weekend."
 
The program could be resurrected but it would cost a lot of money and require too much effort - and all this money and effort might not even work. It's much easier just to stay the course and let everyone get used to it - a couple more seasons of this and we will develop a taste for being 2-10 or 1-11 and then it will all be ok. We'll get used to doing other things on Saturdays - maybe get more into golfing or take up geocaching - and our lives will naturally adjust to the new "normal" sort of like when new blood vessles grow in to replace ones that are blocked.

We are currently working our way through the stages of grief and this is all very normal and healthy. Most of us are at stage 2 now. A few are still stuck at #1 and some are further along.

1. Denial - "Hope left the cupboard bare" or "This rebuild will take a while" or "We are just a QB change away from the promise land."
2. Anger - "Fire Shoop/Burke/Hazell these guys are terrible!!!"
3. Bargaining - "Well, I'll stay off the boards for a few days and not watch the game Saturday and then check back in and see if things are better."
4. Depression - "This is the worst team and Hazell is the worst coach ever and why is this happening to me and my beloved alma mater? What did I do to deserve this?"
5. Acceptance - "It is not ok that Purdue football is so terrible but I have accepted it and my yard has no stray leaves, my handicap is into single digits, and I found my 1,000 geocache last weekend."


I am sorry, but I will never get used to losing. Never have and never will.
 
The program could be resurrected but it would cost a lot of money and require too much effort - and all this money and effort might not even work. It's much easier just to stay the course and let everyone get used to it - a couple more seasons of this and we will develop a taste for being 2-10 or 1-11 and then it will all be ok. We'll get used to doing other things on Saturdays - maybe get more into golfing or take up geocaching - and our lives will naturally adjust to the new "normal" sort of like when new blood vessles grow in to replace ones that are blocked.

We are currently working our way through the stages of grief and this is all very normal and healthy. Most of us are at stage 2 now. A few are still stuck at #1 and some are further along.

1. Denial - "Hope left the cupboard bare" or "This rebuild will take a while" or "We are just a QB change away from the promise land."
2. Anger - "Fire Shoop/Burke/Hazell these guys are terrible!!!"
3. Bargaining - "Well, I'll stay off the boards for a few days and not watch the game Saturday and then check back in and see if things are better."
4. Depression - "This is the worst team and Hazell is the worst coach ever and why is this happening to me and my beloved alma mater? What did I do to deserve this?"
5. Acceptance - "It is not ok that Purdue football is so terrible but I have accepted it and my yard has no stray leaves, my handicap is into single digits, and I found my 1,000 geocache last weekend."

Some schools have:

#6 cheating. Thanks goodness it's not to that point yet, I guess.

I'm still not sold that there won't be changes at the end of the season. You could be right but I hope you are wrong. There won't be any fans left in 2 years I'm afraid.
 
I am sorry, but I will never get used to losing. Never have and never will.
Losing is no fun but you really aren't losing unless you are one of the players or coaches. I don't like following a losing team either but when I look at the 5 stages, Acceptance is the best option for me. If I stay in denial my friends (and family) will make fun of me and rightfully so. I don't want to walk around angry or depressed -- I have enough trouble making friends as it is. Bargaining hasn't really worked for me - to be perfectly honest I am not really sure what "bargaining" means in this context. But it is one of the 5 steps so I threw it in there to make it look like I know what I'm talking about.
 
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Some schools have:

#6 cheating. Thanks goodness it's not to that point yet, I guess.

I'm still not sold that there won't be changes at the end of the season. You could be right but I hope you are wrong. There won't be any fans left in 2 years I'm afraid.
Maybe we are cheating and we're just really, really bad at it.
 
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Losing is no fun but you really aren't losing unless you are one of the players or coaches. I don't like following a losing team either but when I look at the 5 stages, Acceptance is the best option for me. If I stay in denial my friends (and family) will make fun of me and rightfully so. I don't want to walk around angry or depressed -- I have enough trouble making friends as it is. Bargaining hasn't really worked for me - to be perfectly honest I am not really sure what "bargaining" means in this context. But it is one of the 5 steps so I threw it in there to make it look like I know what I'm talking about.


I do not accept the losing but am accepting the fact that we are terrible. I don't walk around depressed because my life is more than PU football--thank God. I would just like some resemblance as to what we used to be. I don't look for PU to be a super power, just a good, respectable program like I remember us being years ago. Northwestern is a good example to me.
 
You have a good memory. I feel like we are on a deserted island with only meager resources present and miles of water around us. We can see another island with a light shining each night a few miles away but will it be better? I think in my mind it has to be better but it will take much pain, many resources, energy, risk and chance to get there. We decide to go for it now and not wait any longer. It ends up being much better but it took a lot of pain to get there. The moral of the story I think is to go for it now and don't look back. Pay the ransom fee now and move on. As you say, it can't get much worse than rock bottom.

Hell, even University of Idaho got their second win last weekend.

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Eden East is where you seek......

Stay away from the Boilermaker Special package.....rather than reaching your destination, it's an endless tour around the islands until you run out of steam and sink in shark-infested waters.
 
The program could be resurrected but it would cost a lot of money and require too much effort - and all this money and effort might not even work. It's much easier just to stay the course and let everyone get used to it - a couple more seasons of this and we will develop a taste for being 2-10 or 1-11 and then it will all be ok. We'll get used to doing other things on Saturdays - maybe get more into golfing or take up geocaching - and our lives will naturally adjust to the new "normal" sort of like when new blood vessles grow in to replace ones that are blocked.

We are currently working our way through the stages of grief and this is all very normal and healthy. Most of us are at stage 2 now. A few are still stuck at #1 and some are further along.

1. Denial - "Hope left the cupboard bare" or "This rebuild will take a while" or "We are just a QB change away from the promise land."
2. Anger - "Fire Shoop/Burke/Hazell these guys are terrible!!!"
3. Bargaining - "Well, I'll stay off the boards for a few days and not watch the game Saturday and then check back in and see if things are better."
4. Depression - "This is the worst team and Hazell is the worst coach ever and why is this happening to me and my beloved alma mater? What did I do to deserve this?"
5. Acceptance - "It is not ok that Purdue football is so terrible but I have accepted it and my yard has no stray leaves, my handicap is into single digits, and I found my 1,000 geocache last weekend."


I think most of us will get to the depression mode if Hazell is allowed to coach next season. Then some may get to acceptance and think "Well, maybe Hazell can lead us to six wins this season. He just needs time." :)
 
I think most of us will get to the depression mode if Hazell is allowed to coach next season. Then some may get to acceptance and think "Well, maybe Hazell can lead us to six wins this season. He just needs time." :)

No matter how depressed I get, I know coach Hat-zel will never get 6 W's unless he can schedule ISU every week.
 
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You guys are almost DEPRESSED? Disgusted, disinterested maybe, I realize some of this is tongue in cheek. Have any of you seen anyone die? Know anyone in the hospital? Terminally ill? Those people have a reason to be depressed. Get a grip.
 
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