How much does Spack love Purdue?

[wendy1]

Would he take a 4YR contract with pay similar to what he is making currently, but with huge incentives for every win over 2 that he delivers on?

That would seem like a cheap solution to offset the Hazell buyout conundrum. It would energize most of the alumni from the glory days and most younger fans would be happy just to have someone at the helm without the initials DH. Spack gets a chance to come back and be the savior. Purdue only has to dig deep if the program is winning. Would seem to solve a lot of problems IF he would go for it.

Needless to say, if Spack has success, he would be handsomely rewarded in his second contract.

Thoughts?

 

[Evergr8ful]

It really doesn't matter how much he loves Purdue...it's his disdain of Burke that would prevent him from returning here now. Fact.

 

[BBG]

I like Spack but he is not ready to coach at this level.

 

[SIBoiler2]

Would he take a 4YR contract with pay similar to what he is making currently, but with huge incentives for every win over 2 that he delivers on?

That would seem like a cheap solution to offset the Hazell buyout conundrum. It would energize most of the alumni from the glory days and most younger fans would be happy just to have someone at the helm without the initials DH. Spack gets a chance to come back and be the savior. Purdue only has to dig deep if the program is winning. Would seem to solve a lot of problems IF he would go for it.

Needless to say, if Spack has success, he would be handsomely rewarded in his second contract.

Thoughts?

So you're saying you want to replace two doses of DH with on round of BS???

 

[threeeputtt]

Would he take a 4YR contract with pay similar to what he is making currently, but with huge incentives for every win over 2 that he delivers on?

That would seem like a cheap solution to offset the Hazell buyout conundrum. It would energize most of the alumni from the glory days and most younger fans would be happy just to have someone at the helm without the initials DH. Spack gets a chance to come back and be the savior. Purdue only has to dig deep if the program is winning. Would seem to solve a lot of problems IF he would go for it.

Needless to say, if Spack has success, he would be handsomely rewarded in his second contract.

Thoughts?

Only if MB is gone. It is starting to look like if a change in football needs to be then the AD needs to be a fresh face. Unlikely for another year.

 

[pb1941]

I like Spack but he is not ready to coach at this level.

I disagree with you,Spack can win at Purdue. He will recruit Chicago and win with kids from the Midwest. I don`t think he would take the job as long as Burk is the A.D.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

I like Spack but he is not ready to coach at this level.

What would make him ready? Quality guy with a nice family and Purdue ties. At LEAST we would have NFL talent on the defense again. We are in a death spiral.

 

[FearTheTrain]

That's actually a great idea. I really have no clue how to fix this mess, and I was giving DH the benefit of the doubt until this past Saturday. Say what you want, but I truly believe we had more talent than Minnesota. They were just in better position for success and wore us down. When they went 3-and-out running the ball, they didn't completely abandon the game plan and eventually had success.

IF Brock would take huge incentives, that might work. He seems like the type who would actually consider it where as most coaches wouldn't. In that scenario, the risk is pretty low because his salary/buy out would be modest. If he is successful (which I think is about 50-50), both sides win. I still question his ability to recruit though.

My main concern about firing DH is who can we *realistically* get that will guarantee success? We will be on budget restrictions and coming off having fired two coaches in 7 years. Fan support is at an all time low. With the young talent we have, it might make more sense to use the limited cash we have an find an OC and hope we win a few more games next year. When we don't, at least the buy out will be cheaper.

 

[lbodel]

Would he take a 4YR contract with pay similar to what he is making currently, but with huge incentives for every win over 2 that he delivers on?

That would seem like a cheap solution to offset the Hazell buyout conundrum. It would energize most of the alumni from the glory days and most younger fans would be happy just to have someone at the helm without the initials DH. Spack gets a chance to come back and be the savior. Purdue only has to dig deep if the program is winning. Would seem to solve a lot of problems IF he would go for it.

Needless to say, if Spack has success, he would be handsomely rewarded in his second contract.

Thoughts?

Regardless, he's not a mid-major head coaching candidate, let alone a Big Ten caliber.

 

[SIBoiler2]

I've never coached FB but I love so Purdue so much I was there long enough to get two degrees. I'll take the job for $250K and will still get at least one win a year!!!

 

[SIBoiler2]

I've never coached FB but I love so Purdue so much I was there long enough to get two degrees. I'll take the job for $250K and will still get at least one win a year!!! If they let me use an escort service while recruiting I can almost guarantee 3 wins a year.

 

[BBG]

What would make him ready? Quality guy with a nice family and Purdue ties. At LEAST we would have NFL talent on the defense again. We are in a death spiral.

Someone posted his record a bit back and it wasn't all that great if I remember correctly.

 

[boilermaker75]

Someone posted his record a bit back and it wasn't all that great if I remember correctly.

At Illinois State Spack is 50-27 overall and 32-18 in conference. Last year they were 13-2 reaching the FCS Championship game. This year they are 4-1, only loss is to Iowa 31-14. They would beat us, but who doesn’t?

 

[BBG]

At Illinois State Spack is 50-27 overall and 32-18 in conference. Last year they were 13-2 reaching the FCS Championship game. This year they are 4-1, only loss is to Iowa 31-14. They would beat us, but who doesn’t?

Thanks for clarifying. I swore I saw something on him that wasn't favorable but could be mistaken.

Like you said, not sure beating us is a good measuring sick

 

[pb1941]

At Illinois State Spack is 50-27 overall and 32-18 in conference. Last year they were 13-2 reaching the FCS Championship game. This year they are 4-1, only loss is to Iowa 31-14. They would beat us, but who doesn’t?

Also he is 53 years old annual salary $243000. Bleeds old gold and black!!!

 

[pb1941]

At Illinois State Spack is 50-27 overall and 32-18 in conference. Last year they were 13-2 reaching the FCS Championship game. This year they are 4-1, only loss is to Iowa 31-14. They would beat us, but who doesn’t?

Also he is 53 years old annual salary $243000. Bleeds old gold and black!!!

 

[Travisty13]

Said this in the "Hire Tiller" thread but I'll drop it off here too:

I don't get this love fest for Spack and why they long for him to be the Head Coach. Ok he did well as a DC here, but he's not setting the FCS on fire or anything. Been at Illinois State for 7 years and no one else is knocking his door down to have him be their coach. He's came in 1st in his conference once. That includes finishes of 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 6th, and finally 1st last year. By comparison, Hope, at Eastern Kentucky, finished 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th, and 1st in his conference of FCS. Think Spack is in a perfect place for his head coaching talents, and that's at the FCS level.

 

[uncleboiler]

Also he is 53 years old annual salary $243000. Bleeds old gold and black!!!

He got a contract extension in January thru the 2021 season
Salary $300,000
Additional compensation:
$500 monthly automobile stipend
Bonus incentives:
MVFC champions: $5,000
Each FCS playoff game played through preliminary rounds: $10,000
Wins FCS National Championship: $25,000

 

[wendy1]

It really doesn't matter how much he loves Purdue...it's his disdain of Burke that would prevent him from returning here now. Fact.

I think we can all agree that Spack loves Purdue, and I agree that he probably does despise Burke (at least has a healthy lack of respect), but wouldn't having success at Purdue long after Burke has been sent packing be the best form of redemption?

 

[uncleboiler]

I still think he'll end up at Illinois.

 

[banshee90]

He got a contract extension in January thru the 2021 season
Salary $300,000
Additional compensation:
$500 monthly automobile stipend
Bonus incentives:
MVFC champions: $5,000
Each FCS playoff game played through preliminary rounds: $10,000
Wins FCS National Championship: $25,000

2021 is retirement for him. It all depends on what we can spend I guess. If we can't go expensive he may be a good cheap guy with some upside. 4 years at 750K, would we be able to get a respectable OC/DC and assistant coach. I could see it going both ways OC/DC see him taking a low wage so he can pay them better or they don't respect him. Who do we grab as AD? I know people don't like Grigson, because he has had some bad pickups, but I think he writes some incredible contracts and has a lot of experience scouting talent. He is a better candidate than Cardinal. I doubt it would ever happen since even if he gets let go the amount of money another team will be willing to throw at him will be way higher than we pay our AD.

 

[ahhculdee]

Said this in the "Hire Tiller" thread but I'll drop it off here too:

I don't get this love fest for Spack and why they long for him to be the Head Coach. Ok he did well as a DC here, but he's not setting the FCS on fire or anything. Been at Illinois State for 7 years and no one else is knocking his door down to have him be their coach. He's came in 1st in his conference once. That includes finishes of 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 6th, and finally 1st last year. By comparison, Hope, at Eastern Kentucky, finished 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th, and 1st in his conference of FCS. Think Spack is in a perfect place for his head coaching talents, and that's at the FCS level.

Just wanted to say the MVFC is like the SEC of the FCS, the level of the conference is a bit different, but really doesn't make a difference. My Top three Candidates to Be the Next Coach are Justin Fuente from Memphis and hasn't lost a game in a year(Plus in the Gary Patterson tree), P.J. Fleck from Western Michigan (seems like he could be a likely Joe Tiller type good at evaluating talent, a motivator, and good at evaluating situations in games.), and Dino Babers (See Bowling Green.).

 

[PBoiler84]

True, not a lot of schools going after Spack, but I did hear his name mentioned for the Illinois job. But the question is could he at least improve things at Purdue? If so, then give him a short-term contract with incentives based on record. At this point, things can't get worse.

 

[Travisty13]

Just wanted to say the MVFC is like the SEC of the FCS, the level of the conference is a bit different, but really doesn't make a difference. My Top three Candidates to Be the Next Coach are Justin Fuente from Memphis and hasn't lost a game in a year(Plus in the Gary Patterson tree), P.J. Fleck from Western Michigan (seems like he could be a likely Joe Tiller type good at evaluating talent, a motivator, and good at evaluating situations in games.), and Dino Babers (See Bowling Green.).

I'd be fine with Fuente, young guy helped develop Dalton into a pro QB and doing the same with Paxton Lynch. Would love Babers, anything from the Art Briles coaching tree is a win in my opinion. Fleck is alright, think he needs a few more years of learning. Thing that worries me about him is he's never been a coordinator, so I'm not sure if his offense success is because of him or his OC. First year at WMU he was 1-11, the next is when they brought in the current OC and that's when they've had success. I wouldn't want to keep changing offenses every couple years. That's why a guy that's already running his own system appeals to me more. Also why Hazell is having trouble in my opinion.

 

[PalmCoastFl]

All I know is the crap I am seeing on the field each week, I would take the Hope era anytime over this.................any coach period would be better than this staff! Whoever the coach may be..............................he needs to ring an innovative OC with him..........

 

[SupremeHawk]

Just wanted to say the MVFC is like the SEC of the FCS, the level of the conference is a bit different, but really doesn't make a difference. My Top three Candidates to Be the Next Coach are Justin Fuente from Memphis and hasn't lost a game in a year(Plus in the Gary Patterson tree), P.J. Fleck from Western Michigan (seems like he could be a likely Joe Tiller type good at evaluating talent, a motivator, and good at evaluating situations in games.), and Dino Babers (See Bowling Green.).

PJ Fleck is Hazell v 2.0. I cannot for the life of me understand the fascination that people have with this guy. He as gone 1-11, 8-5, and is now 2-3. He has one of the most talented mid-major teams in the country and got blown out by Georgia Southern this year (43-17) and just played a 41-39 shootout against 2-4 Central Michigan.

This guy has Turner Gill/Tim Beckman written all over him. Actually, the better analogy might be Tim Brewster. Great recruiter, and then...what? Somebody has to coach them up. Plus, his goofy antics are just ridiculous.

I dare you guys to hire that guy.

 

[Foolmeoncefan]

It really doesn't matter how much he loves Purdue...it's his disdain of Burke that would prevent him from returning here now. Fact.

No doubt. How did the Board of Trustees at Purdue tolerate this for so long? Purdue could be an incredible market for football without a doubt. All that it would have taken is just a little bit of commitment, and I am not talking Michigan here. I am talking Marshall. Just a Marshall level effort and the entire complexion of the university could be changed around the country. Small things. A small sacrifice to replace outright negligence from Burke and things could have been turned around decades ago. Purdue has Notre Dame (at least did) and IU as rivals and plays many neighboring schools, of which is also in between Chicago and Indy, and has national name recognition. So we are talking traveling fans and home fan potential from close locations, and yet the stadium is less packed than a movie theatre showing bad rerun. It is amazing that Purdue is in the situation (last in the big ten in profit) it is in now operating at half the budget of Michigan with IU trouncing our budget as well. For the entire athletic department. Someone who knows football (example: Michigan's AD).

Here is the difference between Purdue and Michigan and our horribly stupid costly Board of Trustees that tolerated this decline for so long. Michigan Athletic director - a former football player. Purdue Athletic Director - Swim Team. Yah wonder why he has no idea how to fix our football problems. Gee, I wonder why.

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2014/11/michigan_interim_athletic_dire.html
Hackett, a 1977 Michigan graduate and former football teammate of Brandon under coach Bo Schembechler, returns to U-M after two decades as chief executive of Grand Rapids-based Steelcase Inc., one of the world's largest office furniture makers.

http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/genrel/smith_gene00.html
At Ohio State, the 59-year old Smith oversees the nation's most comprehensive and one of its most successful collegiate athletics programs. The department sponsors 36 fully-funded varsity sports with more than 1,000 student-athletes regularly competing for Big Ten Conference and NCAA championships. As a highly-recruited student-athlete and member of national championship teams as a college athlete and coach, Smith is passionate about the well-being of student-athletes and the championship experience. "We want to create an environment for our student-athletes to be successful academically, athletically and socially," he said. "Intercollegiate athletics offers an unparalleled opportunity for young women and men to prepare for success in life."




It is like Burke had a BMW sitting out there and he thought taking off the tires and draining all the oil out of the car was the solution to beating a Ferrari in the Indy 500. Has he ever been to the Indy 500? Maybe that is what Purdue should do is take him and learn just how meticulous those cars are designed to in order win. Maybe that same approach needs taken to the Purdue football team, who is the real meat and potatoes to Purdue sports funding and a host of other intangibles that benefit the university in so many ways. Burke must be forced into retirement, and probably before basketball season. He really is the problem. I have been reading what these other coaches are saying. And it is far and away the reason Purdue has the lowest sports budge of any big ten team other than Northwester, a tiny private school by comparison to any other school in the big ten and the difference is only off 1 or 2 million. Purdue needs a new AD. This much is quite clear. That is going to bring real coaching prospects and more importantly someone who is serious about getting people back into those stands at levels comparable to the mid to upper-tier of the big ten instead of less than most D1 basketball games.

 

[boilers7740]

Some of you are going to be shocked at what kind of job Spack gets. Follow the clear pattern of hires in college football. He fits.


Secondly. He wouldn't take that contract. Because he will get a better one. And the next coach will get a contract similar to or better than Hazell's. Fact.

 

[wendy1]

Some of you are going to be shocked at what kind of job Spack gets. Follow the clear pattern of hires in college football. He fits.


Secondly. He wouldn't take that contract. Because he will get a better one. And the next coach will get a contract similar to or better than Hazell's. Fact.

I also think Spack will end up at a solid D1 program within the next year or two. That's why I wonder if his affinity for Purdue is strong enough that he would make a heartfelt decision vs. a logical one when he starts to get sniffs elsewhere. I think it is going to be very tough to recruit a top tier head coach at Purdue knowing the state of the program, the Hazell buyout stranglehold, the AD's job security or lack thereof, and what happened to the prior two coaches. When you look at the pool of candidates that would actually accept a Purdue head coaching position, Spack looks pretty attractive. There will be a lot of major programs looking for new HC's this season and Purdue will be at the very bottom of the pecking order.

 

[RegionWarrior101]

It is a two-way street; Morgan is WAY too arrogant to reach out to Spack; Spack does not respect Morgan so it is a moot point. If a new AD came in, I think he would come back. Not for Illinois State money though, although I think he would come in at a Hazell rate which is lower end of average for Big Ten.

 

[BoilerStutz]

We need to get realistic about how undesirable this Purdue job has become. We are the Northwestern of old. It is pretty clear the commitment to football at Purdue is limited. Attendance stinks. We cannot keep IN recruits in-state. It is no fun.

Spack is going to get a very good job. He has taken IL State to heights it has never experienced. They are selling out the stadium. And they are having FUN!

As with other coaches, Morgan was not honest with Spack. Spack passed on other terrific opportunities as Morgan led him to believe that he would follow Tiller. He also led Tiller to believe this. As a result, both Tiller and Spack have little time for the Swimmer-AD.

The real question is whether Spack would even return a phone call from Purdue.

 

[lbodel]

We need to get realistic about how undesirable this Purdue job has become. We are the Northwestern of old. It is pretty clear the commitment to football at Purdue is limited. Attendance stinks. We cannot keep IN recruits in-state. It is no fun.

Spack is going to get a very good job. He has taken IL State to heights it has never experienced. They are selling out the stadium. And they are having FUN!

As with other coaches, Morgan was not honest with Spack. Spack passed on other terrific opportunities as Morgan led him to believe that he would follow Tiller. He also led Tiller to believe this. As a result, both Tiller and Spack have little time for the Swimmer-AD.

The real question is whether Spack would even return a phone call from Purdue.

Our current coach and previous coach didn't make much an effort recruiting in-state. Not sure that's a fair statement.