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We will always suck unless we start cheating. There is a culture of losing here now and it makes me sick. No hope for this team. Even Saban couldn't win here. Time to face reality.
 
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The only "cheating" that I see as commonplace in major programs is the culture of private practice time (violates the practice hours rule). Coaches are not going to show up to these things, but drills can easily be learned and taught amongst team members....and we all know how some "volunteer" things are basically mandatory, when you're dealing with a complex organization working towards a common goal.

The cheating most people refer to when they think of cheating is paying players, and I only expect that from the handful of shady programs that recruit above their success level (Ole Miss in particular)
 
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Cheat or run the triple option that can beat anybody on any given day. Purdue needs to run the triple option and hang their hat on it for 20 years and what you would see is a whole lot of success.
Air force-Navy dont cheat and they win vs everybody. Purdue would get even better athletes then those schools and if they sell out to the triple option they would win west titles.
 
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Cheat or run the triple option that can beat anybody on any given day. Purdue needs to run the triple option and hang their hat on it for 20 years and what you would see is a whole lot of success.
Air force-Navy dont cheat and they win vs everybody. Purdue would get even better athletes then those schools and if they sell out to the triple option they would win west titles.

Just....no....
 
The only "cheating" that I see as commonplace in major programs is the culture of private practice time (violates the practice hours rule). Coaches are not going to show up to these things, but drills can easily be learned and taught amongst team members....and we all know how some "volunteer" things are basically mandatory, when you're dealing with a complex organization working towards a common goal.

The cheating most people refer to when they think of cheating is paying players, and I only expect that from the handful of shady programs that recruit above their success level (Ole Miss in particular)
Interesting article on Bleacher Report this week on how rampant cheating is in P5 football. I believe they pullled the article (a bunch of anonymous coaches) but it was worse than you think.
 
We will always suck unless we start cheating. There is a culture of losing here now and it makes me sick. No hope for this team. Even Saban couldn't win here. Time to face reality.

I believe Northwestern runs an extremely clean program and constantly have a team that competes with anyone and has gone to more big time bowls than other programs that SHOULD be better.
 
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The only "cheating" that I see as commonplace in major programs is the culture of private practice time (violates the practice hours rule). Coaches are not going to show up to these things, but drills can easily be learned and taught amongst team members....and we all know how some "volunteer" things are basically mandatory, when you're dealing with a complex organization working towards a common goal.

The cheating most people refer to when they think of cheating is paying players, and I only expect that from the handful of shady programs that recruit above their success level (Ole Miss in particular)
Sign me up for Ole miss type succesd
 
Cheating pays. Look at Ole Miss, Baylor, Oregon, etc. Even if Ole Miss gets nailed by the NCAA, they have already established a winning program that will automatically attract better players than it would have 10 years ago.

I don't think Baylor has ever been accused of cheating, rather they blatantly mishandled players breaking the law. That isn't cheating...that's just terrible moral deficiency. I don't think Oregon has been caught cheating, rather they have a very well known and insanely wealthy donor (Phil Knight) who gives more money than probably most any other booster in the country for athletics. It is estimated that Knight has donated well over $300 million at this point in time. If Purdue suddenly got that type of cash flow in from a single booster, you don't think we'd see a surge in the program? Suddenly Purdue has addition staff (like at Alabama), better facilities, better equipment, etc? Suddenly, Purdue could upgrade everything over time to be on par with OSU and Michigan. That alone would get recruits attention...sadly we do not have a booster like that or T. Boone Pickens. Our only shot at anything remotely similar would be the Red Gold CEO and family...and I don't think they are much interested in something like that other than providing our ketchup and focusing more on the academic side.
 
I don't think Baylor has ever been accused of cheating, rather they blatantly mishandled players breaking the law. That isn't cheating...that's just terrible moral deficiency. I don't think Oregon has been caught cheating, rather they have a very well known and insanely wealthy donor (Phil Knight) who gives more money than probably most any other booster in the country for athletics. It is estimated that Knight has donated well over $300 million at this point in time. If Purdue suddenly got that type of cash flow in from a single booster, you don't think we'd see a surge in the program? Suddenly Purdue has addition staff (like at Alabama), better facilities, better equipment, etc? Suddenly, Purdue could upgrade everything over time to be on par with OSU and Michigan. That alone would get recruits attention...sadly we do not have a booster like that or T. Boone Pickens. Our only shot at anything remotely similar would be the Red Gold CEO and family...and I don't think they are much interested in something like that other than providing our ketchup and focusing more on the academic side.
Google NCAA violations for both Oregon and Baylor.

I think Scott drew has been cheating his ass off also.
 
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Google NCAA violations for both Oregon and Baylor.

I think Scott drew has been cheating his ass off also.
We are talking football and not basketball. If Hazell was found to be cheating, would you reflect that directly on to CMP? Two different programs...now, obviously what occurred at UNC is different and was AD wide...but you can't copy/paste what happens in one program to the other.

Oregon's issues were under Chip Kelly and although they were caught cheating, I wouldn't say losing a single scholarship for four years is a huge hit. A single scholarship can be made up through an 'academic scholarship' funded by the athletic department (I am almost positive that can occur at some level but some one can correct my flawed logic).

The Baylor issue seems some what minor and is probably an over zealous coach stretching the recruiting rules a bit too much. We aren't talking 'cheating' here in the sense of paying players/recruits or what occurred at Louisville (how Pitino is allowed to 'coach' young men is beyond me...not sure what a HC has to do to get a show-cause penalty in basketball since Roy Williams was complicit in their incident as well)...yet Tressel's guys sell their own stuff, on their own accord, and get free tattoos....and he got a death sentence as a coach.
 
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