Hillary Clinton: The Ticking Time Bomb

[SDBoiler1]

It seems that some Democratic pundits are starting to have questions about Clinton's viability as a candidate, too.

https://theweek.com/articles/571567/hillary-clinton-democratic-partys-ticking-time-bomb

BTW, I think it's hilarious that some on the left are thinking about bringing back algore from the dead.

 

[gr8indoorsman]

It seems that some Democratic pundits are starting to have questions about Clinton's viability as a candidate, too.

https://theweek.com/articles/571567/hillary-clinton-democratic-partys-ticking-time-bomb

BTW, I think it's hilarious that some on the left are thinking about bringing back algore from the dead.

Others including Jon Stewart talked about it before, that the Dems have thrown all their weight behind Hillary and essentially have no up and coming candidates. Then again, Obama came from nowhere. If Hillary somehow falls out of favor, they're left with Sanders... And he isn't viable. But none of this stuff will stick on Hillary.

 

[qazplm]

http://bigstory.ap.org/urn:publicid:ap.org:b54a250a40e9410baaaca5f9fb58ea94

So that link from the AP shows these two "top secret" emails involved the following:

"The officials who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity work in intelligence and other agencies. They wouldn't detail the contents of the emails because of ongoing questions about classification level. Clinton did not transmit the sensitive information herself, they said, and nothing in the emails she received makes clear reference to communications intercepts, confidential intelligence methods or any other form of sensitive sourcing.

The drone exchange, the officials said, begins with a copy of a news article that discusses the CIA drone program that targets terrorists in Pakistan and elsewhere. While a secret program, it is well-known and often reported on. The copy makes reference to classified information, and a Clinton adviser follows up by dancing around a top secret in a way that could possibly be inferred as confirmation, they said. Several officials, however, described this claim as tenuous.

But a second email reviewed by Charles McCullough, the intelligence community inspector general, appears more suspect. Nothing in the message is "lifted" from classified documents, the officials said, though they differed on where the information in it was sourced. Some said it improperly points back to highly classified material, while others countered that it was a classic case of what the government calls "parallel reporting" — different people knowing the same thing through different means."

So yeah, nothing.

The article about a ticking time bomb has, in order:

1. email. That's going nowhere but at least it's linked to her.
2. Her husband's "slush fund"
3. Her husband's penis (including some sly insinuation that maybe Bill slept with underaged girls)

You know if the article had said that Hillary needs more viable challengers to push her policy, or simply because they don't like the idea of one candidate being coronated, that would be a respectable point. This article is not remotely respectable, it's just an I don't like Hillary (and you should really vote for Bernie) article, that tries to mask itself as not a pro-Bernie article by suggesting other candidates come in.

 

[SDBoiler1]

http://bigstory.ap.org/urn:publicid:ap.org:b54a250a40e9410baaaca5f9fb58ea94

So that link from the AP shows these two "top secret" emails involved the following:

"The officials who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity work in intelligence and other agencies. They wouldn't detail the contents of the emails because of ongoing questions about classification level. Clinton did not transmit the sensitive information herself, they said, and nothing in the emails she received makes clear reference to communications intercepts, confidential intelligence methods or any other form of sensitive sourcing.

The drone exchange, the officials said, begins with a copy of a news article that discusses the CIA drone program that targets terrorists in Pakistan and elsewhere. While a secret program, it is well-known and often reported on. The copy makes reference to classified information, and a Clinton adviser follows up by dancing around a top secret in a way that could possibly be inferred as confirmation, they said. Several officials, however, described this claim as tenuous.

But a second email reviewed by Charles McCullough, the intelligence community inspector general, appears more suspect. Nothing in the message is "lifted" from classified documents, the officials said, though they differed on where the information in it was sourced. Some said it improperly points back to highly classified material, while others countered that it was a classic case of what the government calls "parallel reporting" — different people knowing the same thing through different means."

So yeah, nothing.

The article about a ticking time bomb has, in order:

1. email. That's going nowhere but at least it's linked to her.
2. Her husband's "slush fund"
3. Her husband's penis (including some sly insinuation that maybe Bill slept with underaged girls)

You know if the article had said that Hillary needs more viable challengers to push her policy, or simply because they don't like the idea of one candidate being coronated, that would be a respectable point. This article is not remotely respectable, it's just an I don't like Hillary (and you should really vote for Bernie) article, that tries to mask itself as not a pro-Bernie article by suggesting other candidates come in.

It's not an article at all! It's a lefty editorial, written by a dyed-in-the-wool Progressive.

 

[qazplm]

It's not an article at all! It's a lefty editorial, written by a dyed-in-the-wool Progressive.

Are you really quibbling over whether an editorial is an article??

Wow.

I know full well it's written by a "lefty" so what?

 

[BoilerJS]

Are you really quibbling over whether an editorial is an article??

Wow.

I know full well it's written by a "lefty" so what?

Come on Qaz common sense says if Hillary had nothing to hide she would have turned the server over to Congress when they asked for it. She only turned it over when the FBI demanded it and only after deleting some 60,000 emails. But hey believe what you want.

 

[lbodel]

Come on Qaz common sense says if Hillary had nothing to hide she would have turned the server over to Congress when they asked for it. She only turned it over when the FBI demanded it and only after deleting some 60,000 emails. But hey believe what you want.

I think your "facts" are twisted a bit as well. The FBI did not "demand it"...and they are not trying to recover anything on the server. They want to make sure nothing remains and is fully wiped clean.

 

[buygreekbonds]

I think your "facts" are twisted a bit as well. The FBI did not "demand it"...and they are not trying to recover anything on the server. They want to make sure nothing remains and is fully wiped clean.

Let's focus on the central issue. Two questions:

Did Hillary receive or transmit A*N*Y classified information by email during her 4-yr tenure as Sec of State?

If the answer to that question is YES, then what email account did she communicate upon?

 

[lbodel]

Let's focus on the central issue. Two questions:

Did Hillary receive or transmit A*N*Y classified information by email during her 4-yr tenure as Sec of State?

If the answer to that question is YES, then what email account did she communicate upon?

Overall, this will likely not result in much in terms of actual substance related to law. You are only committing a crime if you are "knowingly removing" classified status and intentionally retaining secrets as such - none of the emails so far were specifically marked as having classified info even though some did. So it'd be hard to prove that she was "knowingly" doing anything wrong, whether she truly knew or didn't.

This obviously is not good politically though, and if it extends into January - when the first primaries are - which it likely will, it could allow for someone to overtake the nomination. Others disagreed with me when I said she doesn't have it "under wraps", but all it takes is a lingering question - whether it's really going to result in anything damning or not - to screw up a campaign.

 

[qazplm]

we are past the "lingering question" stage. For those who want to, there will always be "lingering questions" whether they are republicans in the GE, or Bernie supporters in the primary. But there's a whole cottage industry built around going after Hillary from Vince Foster's murder to her being a lesbian to who the real baby daddy is of Chelsea. So as others have pointed out, at some point, a lot of people are going to give this less credence, even if something is legit there because of the wolf syndrome.

The bottom line is this. I don't for a second believe she knowingly sent classified email. It's always possible she received it. One can certainly blame her for having a civilian system, but of course, she wasn't the first (or the second) to do so. But that's going to be the extent of the blame. It won't be that she knowingly did anything wrong, and enough voters are not going to consider that "disqualifying" that it alone will not be a reason why she loses IMO.

It certainly won't be Benghazi. So IMO it will have to be other things. A poorly run campaign (and she's not the world's best campaigner), or a 47 percent type remark, or some revolution is sparked by Bernie that overwhelms her like Obama did (I just don't see that happening again). Or I suppose some other "scandal" comes along that becomes the proverbial straw.

 

[buygreekbonds]

It distills down to two questions.

(1) Did Hillary receive or transmit ANY classified information by email during her 4-yr tenure as Sec of State?
(2) If the answer is yes, what email account did she use?

 

[IlluminatiEXPOSETHEMNOW1]

It distills down to two questions.

(1) Did Hillary receive or transmit ANY classified information by email during her 4-yr tenure as Sec of State?
(2) If the answer is yes, what email account did she use?

Actually, all emails from the State Department at Hillary's level are classified that pertain to government duties due to the sensitive nature at her level. That MSNBC talking point is a total most insincere fraud, and constitutes outright psychological warfare deception against the ignorant public. She wiped the hard drive; that is a clear cut case of obstruction of justice. She did it after she knew she was under investigation publicly, delayed handing it over, and the FBI allowed her the time to do it willfully. Each count carries up to 4 years in prison as a felony. As to why that is for the moron public to figure out, but they're too stupid to face the magnitude of this so as usual they'll just pretend and choose the thinking such as child hiding under the bed. Too much for them to accept things like espionage exist, probably call it a conspiracy theory.

The info coming to Hillary, as Sec of State, is almost always either directly out of the intelligence information facility, or about information in the facility as derived content. Both are classified. It does not matter what they find or disclose. She was in macro-violation of procedure. For her to have any work related feed from the State Dept., she would have had to have turned her outside home facilities into the same level of security as the internal network through the Secret Services. It is beyond incomprehensible that she hired a pathetic minuscule computer firm that doesn't even amount to an Atari from the 80's in terms of security, actually, the Atari was probably more of a secure choice. Her actions were in outright defiance of protocol and amount to nothing less than high caliber espionage. Espionage is always beyond assumption in cases of defiant protocol by any intelligence service in the world. If actions like that occurred by any other high ranking official they would have had their security clearance revoked immediately pending a tribunal privately by the Attorney General and would have been behind bars for no less than probably 5 to 10 years in a military prison facility.

 

[gr8indoorsman]

Actually, all emails from the State Department at Hillary's level are classified that pertain to government duties due to the sensitive nature at her level. That MSNBC talking point is a total most insincere fraud, and constitutes outright psychological warfare deception against the ignorant public. She wiped the hard drive; that is a clear cut case of obstruction of justice. She did it after she knew she was under investigation publicly, delayed handing it over, and the FBI allowed her the time to do it willfully. Each count carries up to 4 years in prison as a felony. As to why that is for the moron public to figure out, but they're too stupid to face the magnitude of this so as usual they'll just pretend and choose the thinking such as child hiding under the bed. Too much for them to accept things like espionage exist, probably call it a conspiracy theory.

The info coming to Hillary, as Sec of State, is almost always either directly out of the intelligence information facility, or about information in the facility as derived content. Both are classified. It does not matter what they find or disclose. She was in macro-violation of procedure. For her to have any work related feed from the State Dept., she would have had to have turned her outside home facilities into the same level of security as the internal network through the Secret Services. It is beyond incomprehensible that she hired a pathetic minuscule computer firm that doesn't even amount to an Atari from the 80's in terms of security, actually, the Atari was probably more of a secure choice. Her actions were in outright defiance of protocol and amount to nothing less than high caliber espionage. Espionage is always beyond assumption in cases of defiant protocol by any intelligence service in the world. If actions like that occurred by any other high ranking official they would have had their security clearance revoked immediately pending a tribunal privately by the Attorney General and would have been behind bars for no less than probably 5 to 10 years in a military prison facility.

Not long enough.

Not enough all caps and misspellings.

Not enough links.

You're a poor facsimile of your namesake.

 

[IlluminatiEXPOSETHEMNOW1]

Not long enough.

Not enough all caps and misspellings.

Not enough links.

You're a poor facsimile of your namesake.

Where?

 

[IlluminatiEXPOSETHEMNOW1]

It's not an article at all! It's a lefty editorial, written by a dyed-in-the-wool Progressive.

The liberal would rather support their leader no matter what they do. Leftists worship the leader like a god. Actually, that is what being a leftist is at its core value. They'd rather not know that the truth about Hillary is that she was ensuring stinger missiles and high powered weapons went on the black market to ISIS. The emails show that not only was the Ambassador to Benghazi communicating with her in desperation to buy back the weapons to prevent this, but also Hillary ensured through "tipping" that the embassy would be attacked as a result. High level intelligence field officers went on public radio discussing this. She committed espionage and treason. If ISIS shot down a passenger jet or even a ship at sea, an oil tanker, or attacked a city with those, the leftist would not care. Being a leftist means worshiping who is in power.

 

[qazplm]

The liberal would rather support their leader no matter what they do. Leftists worship the leader like a god. Actually, that is what being a leftist is at its core value. They'd rather not know that the truth about Hillary is that she was ensuring stinger missiles and high powered weapons went on the black market to ISIS. The emails show that not only was the Ambassador to Benghazi communicating with her in desperation to buy back the weapons to prevent this, but also Hillary ensured through "tipping" that the embassy would be attacked as a result. High level intelligence field officers went on public radio discussing this. She committed espionage and treason. If ISIS shot down a passenger jet or even a ship at sea, an oil tanker, or attacked a city with those, the leftist would not care. Being a leftist means worshiping who is in power.

Damn it you got me! How do you know this stuff?? How do you expose us so? I feel so...exposed.
I will have to cut this email short as I am anointing the feet of my golden Hillary (praised be her name) statue.

 

[IlluminatiEXPOSETHEMNOW1]

Damn it you got me! How do you know this stuff?? How do you expose us so? I feel so...exposed.
I will have to cut this email short as I am anointing the feet of my golden Hillary (praised be her name) statue.

I just cannot believe anyone could possibly make excuses for Hillary for what she has done. What could you possibly gain from her being president except seeing her ugly face frothing just bold faced horrible lies for 4 years, while every possible advantage America has had or ever had is given away to China, who then gives it to Russia, who then points it right back at us? Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton should be tried for treason with max penalty or at the very least spend the rest of their lives doing hard labor in a military prison. Back in 1998 China couldn't even make a missile reach the United States. Now they are piloting our astronauts into space and building hypersonic missiles better than ours or at least good enough to make it impossible to stop during a war.

Back in the 90s Bill Clinton working closely with Donald Rumsfeld built North Korea two nuclear reactors of which within 12 years they have developed many nuclear weapons from. Clinton gave China guidance chip technology. Actually, China nor Russia had that technology at the time. The Russians had an unstable version, probably half their missiles would have failed on a launch. Then Clinton sells China full access to our radiation hardened guidance chips and even provided them the encryption technology and the US companies were given full access to sell China military grade super computers. Currently China could takeout every single satellite we have in space. And the point is the gap between US technology and even India or for that matter any nation who'd oppose us is very close. Its getting closer daily. That didn't happen by mistake. China was Bill Clinton's leading campaign contributor. And China has given many contributions to Hillary and her foundation. The fact that she was on the take. The fact that she hired a computer company that the average community college IT student could have outdone to store national secrets is obscene. There is no excuse for that. No way. China now gets the US Navy ship designs before they can even break ground for construction, or the latest communication equipment designs, of which US tax payers are shelling out trillions and China gets it for free.

 

[gr8indoorsman]

Damn it you got me! How do you know this stuff?? How do you expose us so? I feel so...exposed.
I will have to cut this email short as I am anointing the feet of my golden Hillary (praised be her name) statue.

You forgot to capitalize the H in "Her."

 

[qazplm]

You forgot to capitalize the H in "Her."

I'm going to have to say a lot of Hail Chelseas for that one.

 

[SDBoiler1]

I'm going to have to say a lot of Hail Chelseas for that one.

If this keeps going the way it seems to be, you're going to have to say quite a few more Hail Chelseas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...bbe762-4a5a-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html

 

[qazplm]

Was there something new in there I'm supposed to take note of? Because I sure didn't see anything. So if a new article written by someone in some paper (by a former Bush II speechwriter in this case) that contains no actual new infromation is supposed to be an indication of anything, please point it out.

 

[SDBoiler1]

Was there something new in there I'm supposed to take note of? Because I sure didn't see anything. So if a new article written by someone in some paper (by a former Bush II speechwriter in this case) that contains no actual new infromation is supposed to be an indication of anything, please point it out.

Deflect, deny, deny... Why is it that story isn't dying but is getting increasingly more attention? Even the lefty press is joining in now. Isn't it pertinent that John Deutsch, who served under Bill Clinton, had a similar situation and got busted, only to be given a last-minute pardon by Slick Willie?

 

[qazplm]

Deflect, deny, deny... Why is it that story isn't dying but is getting increasingly more attention? Even the lefty press is joining in now. Isn't it pertinent that John Deutsch, who served under Bill Clinton, had a similar situation and got busted, only to be given a last-minute pardon by Slick Willie?

Yes, why are republican folks writing articles about her email? Why won't they just let it die?! During an election year?! When she's leading republican candidates in most GE polling?!

Why? It's a mystery for sure.

This is going nowhere, but if you need the wubby of believing it is, feel free.

 

[IlluminatiEXPOSETHEMNOW1]

Deflect, deny, deny... Why is it that story isn't dying but is getting increasingly more attention? Even the lefty press is joining in now. Isn't it pertinent that John Deutsch, who served under Bill Clinton, had a similar situation and got busted, only to be given a last-minute pardon by Slick Willie?

She ultimately had the Ambassador of Benghazi killed because he was trying to get stinger missiles out of ISIS hands. ISIS is simply Al Queda renamed by the defense department to disassociate them as evidenced a proxy fighting force. She is personally responsible for not only the death of the Ambassador, but anyone who was killed with those weapons around the world. And ultimately every single passenger jet, ship, building, or consequence those weapons are used towards. She deserves to be given the maximum penalty of treason. Not to mention her emails were nothing less than a military attack against the United States, and amounts to a full blown deliberate espionage operation. These national socialist leftists think something like that can go ignored because they worship power and they can't even imagine the thought of their god falling down to the will of the masses or the country. Every conversation the Secretary of State has with any government official overseas or any electronic government communication is considered classified. The great thing about her getting caught is that such a macro level bold operation can't be explained away. It is exactly what it is.

 

[gr8indoorsman]

She ultimately had the Ambassador of Benghazi killed because he was trying to get stinger missiles out of ISIS hands. ISIS is simply Al Queda renamed by the defense department to disassociate them as evidenced a proxy fighting force. She is personally responsible for not only the death of the Ambassador, but anyone who was killed with those weapons around the world. And ultimately every single passenger jet, ship, building, or consequence those weapons are used towards. She deserves to be given the maximum penalty of treason. Not to mention her emails were nothing less than a military attack against the United States, and amounts to a full blown deliberate espionage operation. These national socialist leftists think something like that can go ignored because they worship power and they can't even imagine the thought of their god falling down to the will of the masses or the country. Every conversation the Secretary of State has with any government official overseas or any electronic government communication is considered classified. The great thing about her getting caught is that such a macro level bold operation can't be explained away. It is exactly what it is.

Ah, how I've missed your wanton stupidity. Yes, the rules of classification state clearly that any email SecState sends is classified... Pretty sure I read that somewhere in the instructions for classification... Or not.

 

[IlluminatiEXPOSETHEMNOW1]

Ah, how I've missed your wanton stupidity. Yes, the rules of classification state clearly that any email SecState sends is classified... Pretty sure I read that somewhere in the instructions for classification... Or not.

She was having emails routed to an IT company that was less secure than a McDonalds. But the policy is that the Secret Service was supposed to secure the information coming out of the government to any of her computers of government business. You don't use government computers for classified work. Most people that work at McDonalds aren't allowed to use company computers for personal email. This isn't rocket science. This is clear espionage. The emails were from the Pentagon SCIF. I think it's pretty clear she was committing espionage. The only people denying this are people that worship her as as a god because it is their liberal theology religion to hate America and worship someone that is set on ensuring the destruction of America. Her husband sold China nuclear missile guidance chips and North Korea Plutonium making nuclear reactors. Hillary Clinton is a globalist. Destruction of the country for takeover is what she does. It is what her husband does. It is what leftists do.

 

[kescwi]

She was having emails routed to an IT company that was less secure than a McDonalds. But the policy is that the Secret Service was supposed to secure the information coming out of the government to any of her computers of government business. You don't use government computers for classified work. Most people that work at McDonalds aren't allowed to use company computers for personal email. This isn't rocket science. This is clear espionage. The emails were from the Pentagon SCIF. I think it's pretty clear she was committing espionage. The only people denying this are people that worship her as as a god because it is their liberal theology religion to hate America and worship someone that is set on ensuring the destruction of America. Her husband sold China nuclear missile guidance chips and North Korea Plutonium making nuclear reactors. Hillary Clinton is a globalist. Destruction of the country for takeover is what she does. It is what her husband does. It is what leftists do.

Ahhh, election season, come on feel the noise!

 

[gr8indoorsman]

She was having emails routed to an IT company that was less secure than a McDonalds. But the policy is that the Secret Service was supposed to secure the information coming out of the government to any of her computers of government business. You don't use government computers for classified work. Most people that work at McDonalds aren't allowed to use company computers for personal email. This isn't rocket science. This is clear espionage. The emails were from the Pentagon SCIF. I think it's pretty clear she was committing espionage. The only people denying this are people that worship her as as a god because it is their liberal theology religion to hate America and worship someone that is set on ensuring the destruction of America. Her husband sold China nuclear missile guidance chips and North Korea Plutonium making nuclear reactors. Hillary Clinton is a globalist. Destruction of the country for takeover is what she does. It is what her husband does. It is what leftists do.

Uh, what? You absolutely use government computers for classified work. In fact, you're required to use government computers for classified work. Just another example of you not knowing WTF you are talking about.

 

[qazplm]

She was having emails routed to an IT company that was less secure than a McDonalds. But the policy is that the Secret Service was supposed to secure the information coming out of the government to any of her computers of government business. You don't use government computers for classified work. Most people that work at McDonalds aren't allowed to use company computers for personal email. This isn't rocket science. This is clear espionage. The emails were from the Pentagon SCIF. I think it's pretty clear she was committing espionage. The only people denying this are people that worship her as as a god because it is their liberal theology religion to hate America and worship someone that is set on ensuring the destruction of America. Her husband sold China nuclear missile guidance chips and North Korea Plutonium making nuclear reactors. Hillary Clinton is a globalist. Destruction of the country for takeover is what she does. It is what her husband does. It is what leftists do.

A God? No THE God. (Praise Hillary).

 

[IlluminatiEXPOSETHEMNOW1]

Uh, what? You absolutely use government computers for classified work. In fact, you're required to use government computers for classified work. Just another example of you not knowing WTF you are talking about.

Oh lets just make a mistyped word into the end of Earth. Relax guy... Any1 with an IQ over 60 gets the point. She was using her personal computer for classified work. Her personal emails on government computers, she claims was why she had routed 30,000 classified communications to her espionage repository. No excuse no matter how much praying leftists do in their national socialist cult. She's guilty of treason. Oh don't worry, I am glad you admit that government computers are supposed to be the ones used for the top secret stuff, but too bad Hillary wasn't using govt. computers. She did all that work on the home computer and had all kinds of servers all over the country outside of protection storing it. It's called espionage.

 

[IlluminatiEXPOSETHEMNOW1]

A God? No THE God. (Praise Hillary).

Right it is a cult. Leftists are like Charles Manson cult followers. Mindless obedience without question. Hillary got kickbacks in her 2 billion dollar foundation from some of those same emails. What's great about her is not only did she sell weapons to dictators all over the world, they paid her foundation, then she had the State Dept. approve transfer of weapons.

 

[gr8indoorsman]

Oh lets just make a mistyped word into the end of Earth. Relax guy... Any1 with an IQ over 60 gets the point. She was using her personal computer for classified work. Her personal emails on government computers, she claims was why she had routed 30,000 classified communications to her espionage repository. No excuse no matter how much praying leftists do in their national socialist cult. She's guilty of treason. Oh don't worry, I am glad you admit that government computers are supposed to be the ones used for the top secret stuff, but too bad Hillary wasn't using govt. computers. She did all that work on the home computer and had all kinds of servers all over the country outside of protection storing it. It's called espionage.

I have an IQ over 60, and the fact that you've posted so much nonsense here made me unwilling to give you the benefit of the doubt that you mistyped.

I get your point, but I disagree that it's "espionage". "Irresponsible", "careless", yes.

 

[qazplm]

Right it is a cult. Leftists are like Charles Manson cult followers. Mindless obedience without question. Hillary got kickbacks in her 2 billion dollar foundation from some of those same emails. What's great about her is not only did she sell weapons to dictators all over the world, they paid her foundation, then she had the State Dept. approve transfer of weapons.

What kind of lotion do you use for aluminum foil chaffing? My head keeps itching and I figure if anyone knows how to fix aluminum foil chaffing, it's you.

 

[Purdue97]

Ah, how I've missed your wanton stupidity. Yes, the rules of classification state clearly that any email SecState sends is classified... Pretty sure I read that somewhere in the instructions for classification... Or not.

Actually Illuminati is at least partially right with the statement when it comes to foreign officials. It is general knowledge that that correspondence, whether written, said, or electronic, is considered classified with foreign officials.

 

[gr8indoorsman]

Actually Illuminati is at least partially right with the statement when it comes to foreign officials. It is general knowledge that that correspondence, whether written, said, or electronic, is considered classified with foreign officials.

No, it isn't. While I'm certain you've had interaction with foreign officials, I'd bet the farm I've had more. Most of it isn't classified, unless you want to count FOUO, which can be thrown in a trash can. If State has other rules, well please cite them and educate me. This espionage charge is right-wing-nut-job BS and nothing more.

 

[qazplm]

Actually Illuminati is at least partially right with the statement when it comes to foreign officials. It is general knowledge that that correspondence, whether written, said, or electronic, is considered classified with foreign officials.

So, if Hillary Clinton sends the prime minister of somecountrystan a birthday card or even birthday email congrats, you're argument is that it's considered classified?

 

[Purdue97]

No, it isn't. While I'm certain you've had interaction with foreign officials, I'd bet the farm I've had more. Most of it isn't classified, unless you want to count FOUO, which can be thrown in a trash can. If State has other rules, well please cite them and educate me. This espionage charge is right-wing-nut-job BS and nothing more.

Well, I will be the first to say that the rules and regulations and levels regarding classified information is pretty complex and Clinton is trying to hide and run around these rules. That said, rules from the embassy(re: State) were to treat anything we received whether written or verbal, from foreign officials as classified. I will say I left "said in confidence" phrase out of first post.

I do not think there is an espionage charge either. At best for Clinton, I think she either ignored , thought she was above the laws and rules, and/or used really poor judgment. At worst, she broke the law.

I think these links describe what 1) I was trying to say 2) What I experienced with Embassies(re:State)

Anyway, I would say the Information Security Oversight office has a good idea of what is legit and what is not. People on here, and media in general are saying this is a Republican witch hunt. Well, I would just say that it is a federal judge, FBI, IGs, etc. None of tehm are under Republican control.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/21/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...and-received-by-clinton-were-born-classified/

 

[IlluminatiEXPOSETHEMNOW1]

No, it isn't. While I'm certain you've had interaction with foreign officials, I'd bet the farm I've had more. Most of it isn't classified, unless you want to count FOUO, which can be thrown in a trash can. If State has other rules, well please cite them and educate me. This espionage charge is right-wing-nut-job BS and nothing more.

Actually it is. Hillary Clinton was running espionage. It is not an accident that the American Embassy was attacked under her watch at Benghazi. She was trying to run coordination with Saudi Arabia and other foreign intelligence at the time outside of the FOIA system. This is a black operation. This is not just anyone in the government. This is the secretary of state we are talking about, at that time. She then wiped the hard drive. We are talking about well over thirty thousand communications. Wiping the hard drive is not a poor judgment or some kind of laughing oversight. Hillary Clinton has a J.D. from Yale Law. I don't want to even entertain in my wildest state of drunkenness even the possibility she did not fully willingly knowingly commit obstruction of justice. That is simply not even possible or even slightly believable. She knew she was under investigation while her attorney lied to the country, and then she wiped the drive and the FBI let her do it. We are talking about a woman who as a J.D. from Yale Law who hired an IT department from Colorado that was so bad and so insecure that a local IT department from the average high school is like NSA level compared to it. She went for a company so far under the radar, and so insecure that they would not be aware they were ever attacked by a state adversary, and thus espionage would be undetected and plausible deniability would obfuscate her motives.

Hillary Clinton was given hundreds of millions to her tax free foundation by foreign dictators. She then had weapons restrictions lifted and brokered weapons deals to America's enemies. In Benghazi the Ambassador was communicating to American authorities at the state department that many of those weapons then went on the black market and were falling into the hands of Al Queda (renamed ISIS). He then tried to buy back those weapons. She then ensured he was killed and the embassy raided by ISIS. What is actually amazing about it was when Hillary testified in Congress by saying "who cares what difference does it make" as to how the Ambassador was killed. This is a Yale Law graduate here. Do you understand the magnitude of this? Regular employees at the Pentagon or in intelligence know that when they are using information from the SCIF that they are not allowed to have it moved anywhere outside of an authorized computer on the inside. When they do they go before the Attorney General and end up in prison. Hillary did precisely that and had the embassy attacked. Why wouldn't Hillary Clinton have gone within the intelligence community to have had a government laptop or some kind of secure networking setup? Working at any corporation in this country even the lowest level employees know to do that. It is asinine for her to have done this. Ignorance is no excuse here no matter how you spin this. She didn't just break the law here like this is a speeding ticket on the highway. She committed hardcore espionage against the country. The Secret Service consider guarding the woman to be a punishment. Try to put that into perspective.


http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foun...als-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187

The Saudi deal was one of dozens of arms sales approved by Hillary Clinton’s State Department that placed weapons in the hands of governments that had also donated money to the Clinton family philanthropic empire, an International Business Times investigation has found.

Under Clinton's leadership, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments have given money to the Clinton Foundation, according to an IBTimes analysis of State Department and foundation data. That figure -- derived from the three full fiscal years of Clinton’s term as Secretary of State (from October 2010 to September 2012) -- represented nearly double the value of American arms sales made to the those countries and approved by the State Department during the same period of President George W. Bush’s second term.

The Clinton-led State Department also authorized $151 billion of separate Pentagon-brokered deals for 16 of the countries that donated to the Clinton Foundation, resulting in a 143 percent increase in completed sales to those nations over the same time frame during the Bush administration. These extra sales were part of a broad increase in American military exports that accompanied Obama’s arrival in the White House. The 143 percent increase in U.S. arms sales to Clinton Foundation donors compares to an 80 percent increase in such sales to all countries over the same time period.





ON VIDEO (Hillary....who cares how the Ambassador died)

 

[gr8indoorsman]

Obstruction of justice, maybe. Running espionage? I seriously doubt it. But welcome back! Thanks for the entertainment!

 

[gr8indoorsman]

Well, I will be the first to say that the rules and regulations and levels regarding classified information is pretty complex and Clinton is trying to hide and run around these rules. That said, rules from the embassy(re: State) were to treat anything we received whether written or verbal, from foreign officials as classified. I will say I left "said in confidence" phrase out of first post.

I do not think there is an espionage charge either. At best for Clinton, I think she either ignored , thought she was above the laws and rules, and/or used really poor judgment. At worst, she broke the law.

I think these links describe what 1) I was trying to say 2) What I experienced with Embassies(re:State)

Anyway, I would say the Information Security Oversight office has a good idea of what is legit and what is not. People on here, and media in general are saying this is a Republican witch hunt. Well, I would just say that it is a federal judge, FBI, IGs, etc. None of tehm are under Republican control.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/21/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...and-received-by-clinton-were-born-classified/

There is a definite difference between "hold in confidence" and "classified".