Ok, you named 4 groups.
Give me an estimate of how many members each has.
Do I get included in the group because I'm right wing, support the Republican Party and believe in Trump?
Hell to pay
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Give me an estimate of how many members each has.
Do I get included in the group because I'm right wing, support the Republican Party and believe in Trump?
Oh my God, that would be the same as Biden cancelling oil leases and the Keystone Pipeline on his first day in office. Except it went up 225%.
Why destroy them when we can just take them and get the oil? You think Iran wants to go to war with the US and Israel?
Iran has a Navy and they'll probably try to block the Straits of Hormuz if we take out the terminals. We don't want a ground war with Iran. We need to give Israel the capability to stop Iran's oil shipments and if Iran's Navy interferes with international shipping of oil, we sink 'em with the blessing of the rest of the world. Israel attacks the terminals in Iran, the US sinks Iran's Navy in international waters.
Hey nimrod. I wasn't the one who brought up the oil fields and taking them over. Your fellow MAGA stooge said to do that. Argue with him. The boots on the ground comment was simply explaining the obvious. It's going to cost American lives yo take the fields and hold them. Read.
Are you going to acknowledge what your suggestion would to the oil markets? Are Americans willing to pay $5 gallon so that we can fight Iranian terrorism? Trump isn't even in office and you idiots are ready to piss on why he was elected. Brilliant.
Have you thought about the ramifications of a unilateral US attack on Iran's oil fields? Evidently not. We're not gonna have any allies working with or supporting us, except Israel. Terrorism will only get worse. But I suppose Kash will be taking the new threats seriously in between firing FBI agents and investigating trumps enemies.
Oh FfS they did not. Lying out your ass. The Keystone pipeline wasn't even shipping US oil. Oil prices are based on global supply and demand, not one pipeline on the US that produces nothing.
More oil and NG were produced in the last two years in the US than ever before. But regulations right?
No, it isn't even close to the same thing. Weak deflection.
Perhaps you should learn to read. I did not suggest that the US do any of this. We should supply Israel with the weaponry to shut down the oil terminals on Iran's coast. That will stop them from shipping oil. No boots on the ground.
Oh you didn't? You certainly didn't say Israel should do it. When you said "Stopping the oil should be Job One" you were referring to Israel? Why didn't you say Israel should do it from the beginning? You think Israel doesn't have the weapons right now to take out the terminals? 6 months ago? A year ago?
Yeah that was Canadian oil proposed to be shipped via the Keystone pipeline through the US to the Gulf just to be shipped around the world to be refined elsewhere.
My verbatim quote, six posts above: "We need to give Israel the capability to stop Iran's oil shipments . . ."
Screw Iran, I spit on those cockroaches. Get the Saudis and UAE involved and take over the Iran oil fields.
Oil from the Keystone XL Pipeline was destined for domestic refineries in Patoka Illinois, Cushing Oklahoma and Houston in addition to Port Arthur Texas for export. Don't believe everything that you read in the rabid left news media.
There is actually a vast cobweb of US-Canada oil pipelines through which oil from both countries flows. This has been going on for about one and a half centuries. The first US oil pipeline was laid in the 1860s. It is childish to squeal about whether it is US oil or Canadian oil.
Dude, ain’t no refineries in Patoka, IL and Cushing, OK. Those 2 as well as Port Arthur and Houston are pipeline hubs not refineries. You even said the key word, “export”. Now of that Canadian oil was destined for any US refinery.
You are babbling woke nonsense. These oil pipelines and refineries are widely interconnected, plus there are several directly on the Keystone. Here. see for yourself:
You are completely misinformed, as is your custom. The whole point of Keystone was to deliver crude oil from Western Canada to US Gulf Coast refineries.
Say that the pipeline was for the Gulf coast refineries, the point was that the oil or the refined gasoline was to be exported to other countries. Otherwise it could have been refined by other US refineries in the Midwest, West Coast if the oil was meant for the US. By the oil going to the Gulf makes it easier to be shipped elsewhere.
My God, what is wrong with you? Do you think that Keystone oil from Canada will be sent directly to the Gulf, by-passing numerous refineries and hubs, so that only pure Canada oil will go Port Arthur for export? Why do you think some was diverted to Illinois? Only to be sent south again to Port Arthur? Why was some of it sent to Houston?
The oil is co-mingled and mixed and sent where it is needed. You have been duped by the far-woke haters and you took the bait. They told you that all of the Canadian oil was going to be exported only and you lack the intellect to understand that you have been lied to.
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He can eliminate Iran's leaders, along with others who go against Isriel and he can cripple them financially. You don't think it was our intelligence that told BeBe's boys where to aim?
THE POINT IS THAT HE WON EVERYTHING BOB. EVERY FREAKING THING AND NOW HIS CABINET WILL BE MUCH BETTER AND MUCH MORE ABLE TO DO WHAT THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS WANT. Sorry, but your broad lost. Bigly.
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Had Slow Joe and Kammi not shut down pipelines, we'd be selling more and Iran less.
Yep, we need to give Israel the military weaponry to take out Iran's nuclear sites, defense missiles and oil terminals. Their nuclear bomb capabilities should be completely erased, back to 1956 levels. Their defense missile capability is weak and should be reduced to zero. And Iran funds external jihad terrorism with oil. It will be a very easy task for Israel take out their oil terminals and keep them closed. The reason that this isn't happening right now is the Biden zombie.
I totally agree. Until Iranian's leaders are stuck in caves eating bats and snakes, there will be no sure peace. Throat punch every one of them.
Israel will do what it thinks is best for Israel. We will give them the tools.
I hope they destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities and kill all the religious tyrants at the top of the regime - unless the people get a chance to hang them all first.
I was an active-duty US Army officer for 28 years. Circa 1995, I attended a classified security briefing in which I learned that our spy satellite capability was so refined that, on a clear day, we could observe a picnic table on the ground, see a pack of cigarettes on it, and tell what brand it was. Remember, that was 30 years ago.
There is no question that we have the satellite intelligence capability, drone technology and missile capability to give to Israel that will send Iran back to the Stone Age. That is exactly what Trump should do.
You said the reason Israel isn't taking them out right now is because of Biden. It stands to reason then that with Joe out of the way and trump in charge, Israel will do it. Or did you just default to "It's Biden's fault" and would like to change your mind?
You keep referring to us giving Israel the technology and weapons to take out the terminals. Israel's network in the Middle East is superior to ours. Hell they took out a Hamas leader in Tehran. They have reconnaissance satellites. They have ballistic missiles. Cruise missiles. Air to surface missiles. We aren't holding them back from attacking your precious terminals.......at least from a weapons standpoint.
For all the talk from MAGA about staying out of foreign wars, especially in the ME, you guys are sure seem keen to start more of them. I guess it's OK if the target is one you approve of.
And whether you think we should invade and occupy Iran and confiscate all their oil like bonehead or just blow up their oil infrastructure and murder their leaders like you, it might be wise for you Hegseth like military planners to think about what would be the ramifications........if you can see past your nose. But since you seem to be all about blowing sh!t up, killing Muslims and acting like tough guys, I doubt you'll bother.
PEACE through STRENGTH Bob. That's what the haters in Iran understand. Russia will bluster and Putin will bloviate but in the long run, Iran isn't that important to Russia or China to go to war with the world. Take Iran's funding away, and they can't support terror. Take their leader out, and their folks go free. Children play and women cease being property without worrying about nukes, wife beatings, and making suicide bombers out of young boys.
The first two paragraphs of this AP article are solid evidence that you don't know what you're talking about. The problem is the Biden zombie. Jan 20 can't get here soon enough.
Israel assures US it won't strike Iranian nuclear or oil sites, US officials say
U.S. officials say the Biden administration believes it has won assurances from Israel that it will not strike Iranian nuclear or oil sites as it looks to strike back following Iran’s missile barrage earlier this month.
apnews.com
