Great loss

[northside100]

Physical, athletic opponent that pressures the ball and takes away post ups. Exactly the type of opponent that has given Purdue trouble.

Braden was out of his mind the first half (in the worst way), too many turnovers across the board, couldn’t keep them out of the paint, living in help on defense. This Purdue team needs to get much better and they will. Good for them to lose this game.

 

[Do Dah Day]

Physical, athletic opponent that pressures the ball and takes away post ups. Exactly the type of opponent that has given Purdue trouble.

Braden was out of his mind the first half (in the worst way), too many turnovers across the board, couldn’t keep them out of the paint, living in help on defense. This Purdue team needs to get much better and they will. Good for them to lose this game.

Agree

 

[Hoosierific]

Physical, athletic opponent that pressures the ball and takes away post ups. Exactly the type of opponent that has given Purdue trouble.

Braden was out of his mind the first half (in the worst way), too many turnovers across the board, couldn’t keep them out of the paint, living in help on defense. This Purdue team needs to get much better and they will. Good for them to lose this game.

Yes I agree, good to see them lose this game.

 

[RossMackey]

Yes I agree, good to see them lose this game.

Beeen waiting a while to soil your trousers over here, eh?

You’d give your left nut to have a hoops program remotely as good as Purdue …

 

[northside100]

Yes I agree, good to see them lose this game.

Fair enough, I don’t blame you.

Unfortunately for Hoosier fans, sleepy Mike’s team doesn’t do any of the things that Marquette does well.

 

[Wolegib]

The key to this game is to be able to learn from it. We all knew before the game that this would be a tough game to win and a tough team to beat on their home court.

The key now is what lessons did Purdue learn from this loss and will they be able to fix them?

Last year at this time, the question being asked was how can you defeat Purdue with Edey in the middle? Several teams came close. By sagging on Edey and daring Purdue to shoot more threes to win. And Purdue responded by taking and making more 3 point shots.

I guarantee teams were watching both Purdue and Marquette tonight and will copy what they saw as being effective. If Loyer has issues against big physical guards, we will see more of them. If berg is slow and burgess keeps running out of gas, teams will continue to run and play an up tempo game.

I guarantee, unless we learn, the things you complained about will reoccur! Last year, we won a lot of our preseason games, but some were close. As a team, we learned and improved. That will be the key to our success this year! Learn and improve!

I give props to Marquette. They are a good team and deserved to win. I’m hoping for a rematch in April to show them how much we learned.

 

[Roeder]

They probably won't face a defense that good the rest of the year. It will help them when they see Auburn in a few weeks too.

 

[PaBoiler78]

The key to this game is to be able to learn from it. We all knew before the game that this would be a tough game to win and a tough team to beat on their home court.

The key now is what lessons did Purdue learn from this loss and will they be able to fix them?

Last year at this time, the question being asked was how can you defeat Purdue with Edey in the middle? Several teams came close. By sagging on Edey and daring Purdue to shoot more threes to win. And Purdue responded by taking and making more 3 point shots.

I guarantee teams were watching both Purdue and Marquette tonight and will copy what they saw as being effective. If Loyer has issues against big physical guards, we will see more of them. If berg is slow and burgess keeps running out of gas, teams will continue to run and play an up tempo game.

I guarantee, unless we learn, the things you complained about will reoccur! Last year, we won a lot of our preseason games, but some were close. As a team, we learned and improved. That will be the key to our success this year! Learn and improve!

I give props to Marquette. They are a good team and deserved to win. I’m hoping for a rematch in April to show them how much we learned.

after watching this game, I can see us in the Dance facing one of those quick small ball teams from some lower level conference giving us a major fit

 

[POTFHBTFU]

Physical, athletic opponent that pressures the ball and takes away post ups. Exactly the type of opponent that has given Purdue trouble.

Braden was out of his mind the first half (in the worst way), too many turnovers across the board, couldn’t keep them out of the paint, living in help on defense. This Purdue team needs to get much better and they will. Good for them to lose this game.

I don’t typically believe in moral victories but this was a good lesson. Case in point is the the most poise came from the experienced players as I thought Furst played well and kinda went down the line with the freshmen really struggling. It was very frustrating they could have called 20 fouls on Gold and some of those steals on fast breaks they just steamrolled us. Don’t mind giving up 76 points all things considered but would like to see how our offense learns from this.

 

[northside100]

It was very frustrating they could have called 20 fouls on Gold and some of those steals on fast breaks they just steamrolled us. Don’t mind giving up 76 points all things considered but would like to see how our offense learns from this.

Right, that’s why you play these games. Not going to get those calls and n the road in the BIG either. Learn to play through it.

 

[RossMackey]

I don’t typically believe in moral victories but this was a good lesson. Case in point is the the most poise came from the experienced players as I thought Furst played well and kinda went down the line with the freshmen really struggling. It was very frustrating they could have called 20 fouls on Gold and some of those steals on fast breaks they just steamrolled us. Don’t mind giving up 76 points all things considered but would like to see how our offense learns from this.

Totally agreed—Those who loathe Purdue would say we got “Mackey-ed” tonight….

 

[Chi-Boiler]

I happen to think that we were the beneficiaries of a lot of ticky-tack calls against Marquette. Still didn't help.

Marquette's perimeter defense was stellar, similar to the title game against UConn. They just didn't give an inch out there, hedging everything and still coming up in the passing lanes for pick-6s. I couldn't believe Braden only had 2 turnovers at a very late juncture in the game cuz it felt like he had 8 or so. He forced a lot, including a plethora of off-balance jumpers. He may have ended up with decent numbers but I thought it was a bad game. Probably a bad game from everyone except Fletch and maybe Furst. But Furst has got to be stronger and get off the floor quicker going up around the basket.

 

[krazychicagod]

Was at the game. Marquette defends extremely well amd you could tell that they perfectly had scouted and game planned for what we wanted to do. There were a lot of fouls not called on them but they would have won regardless most likely.

Our 5 spot is a huge weakness. Not sure why we wouldnt go with TKR at the 5 all game long because they had no big to bang down low on us. It would have given us our best chance. We rebounded much better but offense was real bad and defense was bad.

Not too worried going forward but we need the freshman and sophomores playing loose and not scared and you could tell all of them felt the pressure on the road.

 

[BBG]

Better to lose now and have time to learn/change things and be ready for march.

 

[BBG]

Yes I agree, good to see them lose this game.

The loosier obsession with us is very real.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Agree that it is a great loss for us that the team needed. Hard to watch.

However, it won't be the last time we see that as it also a good game for those that scout us. Going to be a tough year on the road.

Surprised by how Cox and Colvin couldn't get anything done on offense.

Also surprised Wole actually had a decent post.... what's up with that??

 

[DrEss]

Their longish and athletic guards played really good defensively, and made things very difficult for our guards. Very similar formula that UConn used. Not all teams will be able to get to us that way. Good learning road experience this early in the season.

 

[oldboiler52]

We have an abundance of learning to do. The three freshmen and three sophomores need playing time. Right now, we have to live with the learning curve. I am impressed with Myles taking a stance with his defense. No worries for me.

 

[proudopete]

Lots to learn from that game. We may not see another team play defense like that again this year although I fear Auburn will have something to say about that.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

Lots to learn from that game. We may not see another team play defense like that again this year although I fear Auburn will have something to say about that.

Auburn will be a good "make-up" exam. We shall see.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

The team was flat and seemed “hung over” still from the bama game. They seemed to think they could just go in and win because they are who they are. But our backcourt needed to step up and they did not.

I love smith and am his biggest fan and have been on here saying he’s the best PG in our programs history.

HOWEVER. While he has been good, I have noticed that his body language (yeah yeah I know Colvin blah blah blah 😂) isn’t great when it comes to his teammates not being in the right spot or missing one of his passes, or even when a call doesn’t go Purdues way. I feel, at times, he acts a bit entitled, like he has earned the right to a call or he can kind of half ass it on a play. He got up for the bama game, but it seems for some of these other games he’s lost that “chip on his shoulder” mentality.

He needs to understand real quick that this is HIS team and we go as far as he takes us. It may not be pretty and all great stats this year for him, but just win in any way possible. He had lazy passes last night and that set the tone for others on the team too. Sure Marquette was physical, but so what? So is northwestern and every other big ten team. Players take notice who is called better than them—individually and team wise. We are the hunted and will be all year, as other teams can smell blood/will try to take advantage of no NPOTYx2 in the middle anymore.

The sky is not falling and this is why you schedule these type of games. You learn a lot more in these as compared to scheduling a majority of cupcakes/mid majors and beating them by 20+. Hope the team can learn from this and get better and have the mentality of “hunting” and not being “the hunted”.

Excited to see how they bounce back over the next few games.

 

[Chi-Boiler]

The team was flat and seemed “hung over” still from the bama game.

Etc, etc, etc. Couldn't have said it better myself, especially comments about Braden.

 

[Schmedly_Whiplash]

So many issues. Frosh played like frosh! Gicarri needs to stop the silly slap and retaliation fouls. Cox forced a few. Both O fers.
Caleb frustrated the heck out of me. Some nice moves and plays made. But the inability to get a shot off in traffic is crazy. He catches the ball and gathers himself before jumping, giving time to get to him AND making himself very small in relation to a 6'9" guy shooting it. He would have had 3 or 4 more EASY baskets if he could learn to catch the ball and IMMEDIATELY redirect it to the rim. Not stop and gather, immediate flow from catch to shoot ala Fletcher when close to the basket. Don't try to go over the D, beat the D to the rim. He did a lot of other things well including some "man" rebounds.
Fletch was overmatched physically and scrambled to be a factor. Braden was god awful but still 1 assist from a double double. Only listed as 2 turnovers but he had a lot of bad passes. Needed a lot more from those 2 to beat a team like this at home.
We homered for sure. They were literally bear hugging guys at times. Trey shoved his way out of that 3 or 4 times and showed his frustration. Not a great game but he battled and is showing me something. needs more help.
Great learning game.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Yes we played about as well as possible against AL. Well the team balanced that out last night....going the opposite way.

The positives I saw were the team fighting back over and over getting it to 4 & 5 several times. Until the final surrender.

Also was impressed with Colvin's rebounding(8). Which was good as it made up for Heide who only found 2 Rs....whereas prior to this game I thought Heide realized that was his role?? Should consider lower minutes if he is only getting 2 Rs imo.

 

[Do Dah Day]

The team was flat and seemed “hung over” still from the bama game. They seemed to think they could just go in and win because they are who they are. But our backcourt needed to step up and they did not.

I love smith and am his biggest fan and have been on here saying he’s the best PG in our programs history.

HOWEVER. While he has been good, I have noticed that his body language (yeah yeah I know Colvin blah blah blah 😂) isn’t great when it comes to his teammates not being in the right spot or missing one of his passes, or even when a call doesn’t go Purdues way. I feel, at times, he acts a bit entitled, like he has earned the right to a call or he can kind of half ass it on a play. He got up for the bama game, but it seems for some of these other games he’s lost that “chip on his shoulder” mentality.

He needs to understand real quick that this is HIS team and we go as far as he takes us. It may not be pretty and all great stats this year for him, but just win in any way possible. He had lazy passes last night and that set the tone for others on the team too. Sure Marquette was physical, but so what? So is northwestern and every other big ten team. Players take notice who is called better than them—individually and team wise. We are the hunted and will be all year, as other teams can smell blood/will try to take advantage of no NPOTYx2 in the middle anymore.

The sky is not falling and this is why you schedule these type of games. You learn a lot more in these as compared to scheduling a majority of cupcakes/mid majors and beating them by 20+. Hope the team can learn from this and get better and have the mentality of “hunting” and not being “the hunted”.

Excited to see how they bounce back over the next few games.

Braden was definitely in some mind state that I have not seen. I trust Painter saw the same and will handle it well.

 

[boilerzz]

TKR and Furst went to the line a combined 6 times. I'm I'm pretty sure in every instance, they made one and missed one. 50% isn't good enough.

 

[ChoiceBeef]

Lot of data to digest after this loss. It won't really hurt us as the will go down as a Q1 loss but still sucks.

Berg - is about 2-3 steps slow and just not aggressive. I don’t think he is our best option at the 5. Would rather us go small with Furst and Burgess. More to gain from giving Burgess minutes so he can grow/learn

I read a post after the game that summed up our issue, Marquette was great in disrupting our 2nd & 3rd passes. A lot of our offense is hinged on the ball rotating for a shooter on the 2nd, 3rd pass and they were great in disrupting that all night.

Onward and upwards. Come home, lick our wounds and take it out on Marshall before we head West to play NCState and potentially BYU.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Braden was definitely in some mind state that I have not seen. I trust Painter saw the same and will handle it well.

Yeah. I’ve noticed that at the beginning of the year where he is shaking his head or arguing with the ref, which he never (or didn’t do much of) the previous 2 years. He needs to step it up as a leader and the best player in this team. Zach isn’t coming down the lane to save him anymore so let’s adjust and get better and be playing our best ball in mid Feb.

 

[goboilers2]

Physical, athletic opponent that pressures the ball and takes away post ups. Exactly the type of opponent that has given Purdue trouble.

Braden was out of his mind the first half (in the worst way), too many turnovers across the board, couldn’t keep them out of the paint, living in help on defense. This Purdue team needs to get much better and they will. Good for them to lose this game.

Young team, new challenges. I agree it was a good experience to lose this one. Learn from this.

15 turnovers was the game. That is potentially 30-45 points (12-18 at 40%) on our side and 15 less on their side (I think the number was close to 1 point per turn over)

I had thought we had turned the corner with Alabama, but I guess not.

 

[purduedavie]

Lot of data to digest after this loss. It won't really hurt us as the will go down as a Q1 loss but still sucks.

Berg - is about 2-3 steps slow and just not aggressive. I don’t think he is our best option at the 5. Would rather us go small with Furst and Burgess. More to gain from giving Burgess minutes so he can grow/learn

I read a post after the game that summed up our issue, Marquette was great in disrupting our 2nd & 3rd passes. A lot of our offense is hinged on the ball rotating for a shooter on the 2nd, 3rd pass and they were great in disrupting that all night.

Onward and upwards. Come home, lick our wounds and take it out on Marshall before we head West to play NCState and potentially BYU.

Berg is slow, I’ve been saying that since watching him in mop up time last year. He’s fine against slower/lower level competition, against good/quick team he’s a no go, maybe 5 minutes a game. I think Purdue’s best team will be a small one with TKR playing the 5.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Young team, new challenges. I agree it was a good experience to lose this one. Learn from this.

15 turnovers was the game. That is potentially 30-45 points (12-18 at 40%) on our side and 15 less on their side (I think the number was close to 1 point per turn over)

I had thought we had turned the corner with Alabama, but I guess not.

Yeah the turnovers were surprising after how we took care of the ball vs bama. But I think it was more due to Marquette defensive style and also their coach understanding how to beat. It seems Oats didn’t even watch tape on Purdue before heading to Mackey 😂

 

[seminolesboilers]

Best starting five (5) is TKR, Heidi, Colvin, Loyer, Smith. This five (5) should log significant minutes with the freshmen and Furst logging minutes off the bench. Harris has shown me that he has not earned 20 minutes on the floor. The freshmen are not ready for significant minutes….

 

[Dryfly88]

Heide and Colvin are strictly catch and shoot players on offense. I was really hoping either or both would have developed some sort of game taking it to the basket and breaking down a defense but that hasn't happened. Maybe that is by design for CMP, but I don't think so. I like the defense Colvin is playing and the rebounding is a nice addition to his game. But against good teams it would be nice too have a wing that can break it down when needed.