Yeah, it’s like the old saying the chickens have come home to roost. Last week Watters is all in on the DOGE ignorant federal personnel cuts. Now that his buddy may be getting cut he seems butt hurt about them now.And what is your point, if you have one?
That Watters is a hypocrite? So what if he is? Why does that matter? He is just another talking head.
Do you believe a federal worker is entitled to a lifetime job? People in the private sector get laid off all the time when business slows or the company needs to make cuts due to budgetary constraints.Yeah, it’s like the old saying the chickens have come home to roost. Last week Watters is all in on the DOGE ignorant federal personnel cuts. Now that his buddy may be getting cut he seems butt hurt about them now.
A lot of these federal workers voted for Chump. I wonder how they feel about him now. Chump sure didn’t talk about these widespread federal worker cuts doing the election. I wonder why.
It depend me on the department. These job cuts are so widespread and obviously not well thought of, particularly of the folks that maintain our nuclear arsenal. They cut a lot of them and then oops we need them back.Do you believe a federal worker is entitled to a lifetime job? People in the private sector get laid off all the time when business slows or the company needs to make cuts due to budgetary constraints.
So you believe that a newly hired park ranger at Indiana Dunes National Park should be fired? Or Yellowstone National Park?Do you believe a federal worker is entitled to a lifetime job? People in the private sector get laid off all the time when business slows or the company needs to make cuts due to budgetary constraints.
You are even opposed to cutting ignorant federal personnel?Yeah, it’s like the old saying the chickens have come home to roost. Last week Watters is all in on the DOGE ignorant federal personnel cuts.
Don’t know all the circumstances, but just answering the question no.So you believe that a newly hired park ranger at Indiana Dunes National Park should be fired? Or Yellowstone National Park?
I have survived MANY cuts over the years when percentage cuts were used. There are a lot of things from cuts, promised promotions lost, retirement lost and packages for retirements I could write about. Lawsuits since 2009 are still being addressed as a result of unequal picking of winners and losers as Obama topped off the hourly retirement and threw the salary retirement into PBGC even though it was sufficiently funded ( https://www.delphisalariedretirees.org/delphi/ ). Even to the point that my boss in NY would give me a package that others were getting but his boss in Detroit would not. He kept telling my boss to tell me that "I'm not getting a package and was needed on the electric car in Detroit." Knowing that and the many hours of DEI training (training is for dogs) forced on me as attempt to dumb me down, I just quit.Do you believe a federal worker is entitled to a lifetime job? People in the private sector get laid off all the time when business slows or the company needs to make cuts due to budgetary constraints.
Well that’s what’s happening. Most of these cuts across the the board from the FAA to the national parks, to the IRS, on and o seem to be probationary workers. Or some workers above the probationary status have been cut also. They realized the mistake of firing the nuclear arsenal folks and now scrambling to hire them back.Don’t know all the circumstances, but just answering the question no.
I worked in a place where layoffs were common. In 1983 the company came in and everyone in building three was let go. Vice presidents to the lower level was out on the street by 9:00 in the morning. It was a shock to all, but that happens in the private sector.I have survived MANY cuts over the years when percentage cuts were used. There are a lot of things from cuts, promised promotions lost, retirement lost and packages for retirements I could write about. Lawsuits since 2009 are still being addressed as a result of unequal picking of winners and losers as Obama topped off the hourly retirement and threw the salary retirement into PBGC even though it was sufficiently funded ( https://www.delphisalariedretirees.org/delphi/ ). Even to the point that my boss in NY would give me a package that others were getting but his boss in Detroit would not. He kept telling my boss to tell me that "I'm not getting a package and was needed on the electric car in Detroit." Knowing that and the many hours of DEI training (training is for dogs) forced on me as attempt to dumb me down, I just quit.
There are other stories many people in the public sector have experienced as well. Over two decades I worked with product moved inside a company to a new site...AND to another company. Much of that went to Mexico and then to China. No doubt there were jobs lost. I've been in factories (Goshen, In) on a Saturday or Sunday where the entire workforce was let go at 4:30 PM the Friday before and NONE of the workers knew this was coming. It was somewhat erie seeing family pictures, calendars, tools and clothing left behind like a fire drill where I just needed to ensure a tool got on a semi that day so production would not be stopped elsewhere.
There are going to be a lot of heartache and such from all that lose their job, but we cannot keep kicking the can down the road. We are at a point of no return and cuts MUST be made. The blob has way overgrown its purpose. The gap between industry hiring more due to product coming back into the states and being without a job is going to get a lot of media...but not enough media explanation of 1)why this must take place. 2) how the growth has happened...
Federal workers like the private sector are fired all the time for not doing their job correctly. That aint nothing new. But this widespread cuts is unheard of.You are even opposed to cutting ignorant federal personnel?
Does no fed worker deserve to be fired in your view for anything - ignorance, corruption, etc?
Actually, you are speaking out of ignorance. During my 28-year Army career I was assigned to four activities in which the workforce was majority civilian - Natick Soldier Center, Defense Supply Center Philadelphia, Defense Commissary Agency and US Army Medical Cmd - Europe. In each case, the workforce was bloated and could easily be reduced by 50% without affecting the mission. The meat ax is the only means of reduction that is workable.Last week Watters is all in on the DOGE ignorant federal personnel cuts.
So around 3 decades ago we had a statistical consultant group that taught courses and helped with various projects. They were very expensive…all college professors, publishers, costing millions. I spent a lot of time with them and when they left, I was recommended to take their place and teach the material. Today they have all passed. Two had Purdue backgrounds out of the 6 employed. I told them I would do it and when word reached my boss’s boss he pulled me into his office and asked if I was not happy with my current job and told him yes I was happy, but no different than any other and wanted to make more with a promotion. He said give me a couple of days and he got me a promotion during a time that promotions were not allowed and so I stayed. I picked up additional work (was a statistical resource for a few thousand working, had gage responsibilities for the site and managed a spreadsheet to ensure loading was sufficient as machines were being moved to Mexico which is another story.I worked in a place where layoffs were common. In 1983 the company came in and everyone in building three was let go. Vice presidents to the lower level was out on the street by 9:00 in the morning. It was a shock to all, but that happens in the private sector.
Seems like now federal employees are experiencing what we in the private sector have experienced throughout our work careers. It sucks, but there are no guarantees for employment no matter how good or loyal of employee you are.
Wrong. Massive layoffs and downsizing take out competent private sector employees, as well as incompetent.Federal workers like the private sector are fired all the time for not doing their job correctly. That aint nothing new. But this widespread cuts is unheard of.
The private sector usually puts careful thought into who should be laid off based on their whether they provide an essential role to the company and not just cut indiscriminately.Do you believe a federal worker is entitled to a lifetime job? People in the private sector get laid off all the time when business slows or the company needs to make cuts due to budgetary constraints.
A classic Wally strategy in Dilbert.When I first arrived at DSCP, a warrant officer who worked for me advised me to "carry paper." I didn't know what he meant at the time, but later understood. When you're tired of sitting at your desk doing nothing and decide to get up and go somewhere to goof off, carry some paperwork with you to make it look like you're working.
I was an active duty US Army officer for 28 years. The emphasis is to increase authorizations (employees) in order to make your position seem more important. Saying "We really don't have much work to do" is suicide.The private sector usually puts careful thought into who should be laid off based on their whether they provide an essential role to the company and not just cut indiscriminately.
Somewhat true. Many times it is a percent cut and good people in one area may be cut and less valuable people in other areas may not be cut...sorta a function of the bloat in each area and the outlook of those making decisions as to a short term or a long term...and many times mid management is immune. Bottom line after an initial cut the next cuts are cutting into good workers many times. I've been fortunate to have outlived hundred or thousands that were not so lucky. Now if there is just a single cut, then many times they can cut the low performer. I absolutely carried a guy for over fifteen years but he was no less qualified than some of the management that were very slow to understand. It happens...good guys get cut...bad guys get cut, but why were the bad guys not cut earlier? I've worked my whole life around college educated people, but that doesn't mean they are smart...The private sector usually puts careful thought into who should be laid off based on their whether they provide an essential role to the company and not just cut indiscriminately.
When I left Test &Development in Chrysler and entered Reliability Engineering inside Delco my boss and his boss liked my statistical background even though it was very minimal back then. My direct boss made it known that when you send out a report copy everyone that might have an interest and if a job opens up later that you are interested...they will have seen your name!Actually, you are speaking out of ignorance. During my 28-year Army career I was assigned to four activities in which the workforce was majority civilian - Natick Soldier Center, Defense Supply Center Philadelphia, Defense Commissary Agency and US Army Medical Cmd - Europe. In each case, the workforce was bloated and could easily be reduced by 50% without affecting the mission. The meat ax is the only means of reduction that is workable.
When I first arrived at DSCP, a warrant officer who worked for me advised me to "carry paper." I didn't know what he meant at the time, but later understood. When you're tired of sitting at your desk doing nothing and decide to get up and go somewhere to goof off, carry some paperwork with you to make it look like you're working.
DJT has basically two years to finish what he didn't complete in his first four. He's going to drain the swamp and piss on the alligators to get it done this time. It's going to be fun to watch Demolibs soil themselves when things happen.Yeah, it’s like the old saying the chickens have come home to roost. Last week Watters is all in on the DOGE ignorant federal personnel cuts. Now that his buddy may be getting cut he seems butt hurt about them now.
A lot of these federal workers voted for Chump. I wonder how they feel about him now. Chump sure didn’t talk about these widespread federal worker cuts doing the election. I wonder why.