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Faux News' Jesse Watters' Friend Got DOGE'd

Do you think that $2B to dem icon Stacy Abrams' phony green group was 'faithfully executing the laws'?

Or all the USAID funding for trans operas in Serbia and all the rest it?
 
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Do you think that $2B to dem icon Stacy Abrams' phony green group was 'faithfully executing the laws'?

Or all the USAID funding for trans operas in Serbia and all the rest it?
Who said I did? I'm fine with fraud waste and abuse being eliminated. Funding the richest man in the country is also abuse!
 
Who said I did? I'm fine with fraud waste and abuse being eliminated. Funding the richest man in the country is also abuse!
By "funding him", do you mean the Biden admin purchasing services from him instead of his competitors?

But not in all cases. How has the NASA agreement with Boeing worked out? Musk to the rescue, right?
 
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By "funding him", do you mean the Biden admin purchasing services from him instead of his competitors?

But not in all cases. How has the NASA agreement with Boeing worked out? Musk to the rescue, right?
No I mean the 7500 per car tax incentives. Battery production and storage money. I thought climate change was fake? Why are we spending money on fake green shit like teslas and batteries. Why are we propping this bs up?
 
If Elons ideas can't compete in the market maybe they are bad ideas. How much more investment do I have to make in SpaceX before I, the extremely high tax bracket tax payer, get something back?
 
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If Elon had ONE OUNCE of credibility, he would have cut his government subsidies first. But he doesn't.
Everyone that I know or heard of accepts all money from the government or other entities. Everyone also does everything they can to pay as little taxes as possible. He is no different than anyone on the planet. If it’s available then people take all that they legally or sometimes illegally can. If Elon takes government money illegally then that’s an issue.
 
Everyone that I know or heard of accepts all money from the government or other entities. Everyone also does everything they can to pay as little taxes as possible. He is no different than anyone on the planet. If it’s available then people take all that they legally or sometimes illegally can. If Elon takes government money illegally then that’s an issue.
This is not about legality. DEI was "legal". This is fraud, waste and abuse.
 
"The Constitution’s Article I, Section 9 grants Congress the power of the purse to approve spending in the federal budget in the Appropriations Clause, which reads in part, “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law.”

The Constitution then delegates to the president the task of spending approved funds in the Take Care Clause, which requires the chief executive “shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.”

And the NOAA workers? What were they, chopped liver?
 
Everyone that I know or heard of accepts all money from the government or other entities. Everyone also does everything they can to pay as little taxes as possible. He is no different than anyone on the planet. If it’s available then people take all that they legally or sometimes illegally can. If Elon takes government money illegally then that’s an issue.
Not that any of us are at that spot, but I thought it was pretty common knowledge that at some point money is no longer a motivator. On a smaller scale I'm sure many of us pay "something" we could do, but at our point of wealth we may pay someone to do it because we consider it cheap enough. I can't imagine having the money that Trump or Elon have...to do anything ...anytime they want without adding to their wealth.
 
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And the NOAA workers? What were they, chopped liver?
Why did NOAA exist? NOAA wasn't about the USA. The earth's oceans are not the USA. The earth's atmosphere is not the USA. NOAA was a bunch of nerds who were squealing about global warming. It's like the Dept of Education, a bureaucracy created with no purpose.

It's a great plase for Elon Musk to ask: "What did you do last week?"
 
I AM SO GLAD YOU ASKED, PART II:

So you're opposed to updating our air traffic communication systems with something that already exists and is better because?????

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Due to the recent issues with the FAA, Space X were most likely going to get these contracts no matter what. This is nothing more than the liberal media spinning a narrative because their overlords are angry that Trump's teams are cutting off their crooked funding.
 
Not that any of us are at that spot, but I thought it was pretty common knowledge that at some point money is no longer a motivator. On a smaller scale I'm sure many of us pay "something" we could do, but at our point of wealth we may pay someone to do it because we consider it cheap enough. I can't imagine having the money that Trump or Elon have...to do anything ...anytime they want.
I totally agree. I am no multi millionaire, but feel that way myself. I quit working at 61. Felt I had enough money to do what I wanted for the rest of my life. No need to try and make more and save more for what? If you have some money and don’t spend it it’s like not having any. So many of my friends complain about the price of this or that when some have more than I do. So hard to understand for me as I don’t get it.
 
Space X has already proven to be able to do things at several magnitudes more efficiently than our Federal government has ever been able to come up with. Are you suggesting that we say F it and keep throwing money and fuel out the window because, hey there might be a conflict of interest?

I get it, there's overlap and generally that's not good. However, it's all public information. There's nothing that's being hidden from you. Unlike what DOGE is uncovering from places like USAID and others.
 
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I AM SO GLAD YOU ASKED, PART V:

So a deal struck at the end of the Biden administration has you all up in arms. Hmmm, you know what this smells like to me? Smells like a plan from the exiting administration to make Musk look bad since they knew DOGE was coming.
 
yes obviously she's a clown. When have I ever defended her? Musk is worse. He won no election.
Look, I get it. People don't like the optics, and I'll admit that there's conflicts of interest. However, Musk is the best person that I'm aware of to do all of the things he's being asked to do. Are we saying that we shouldn't hire the best just because he does some business with the government? Not to mention that what he does for the government, they could have never achieved on their own. (the last sentence is in reference to Space X and it's abilities far superior ability to launch rockets)
 
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For crissakes! Musk is an unelected, no-security clearance, cabinet-level official that Trump has tapped to have access to the most confidential personal information processed by the government, and to make wholesale personnel decisions.

I'm cool with you defending some choices that Trump makes - there are policy decisions that are absolutely his prerogative, But is there no bridge too far for Trump that you will not defend?

Of course Nancy Pelosi sucks. What the hell does that have to do with the current unimaginably horrible conflicts of interest by Musk?
FFS, this isn't the first time in US history this type of thing has happened. It goes back to at least 1924.

 
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Liar liar pants on fire. Musk has a top secret security clearance.

@Katscratch Here's a pertinent quote from this article as well.

Elon can’t do and won’t do anything without our approval. And we’ll give him the approval where appropriate. Where not appropriate, we won’t,” the president said.


Well there you have it. Elon can't really do anything other than make recommendations.
 
Name which cabinet positions have the power to cancel programs or fire workers..........in ANY department he chooses.........and have access to information on citizens, government contracts. Calling him a member of the cabinet means nothing. He still shouldn't have that kind of power.

As Kat implied, there is no bridge too far.

As for trump deciding to act on his recommendations........it's becoming more clear every day that Musk and his chainsaw chimpanzees don't know wtf they're doing, doing little research, if any, into what the programs or people they're cutting actually do. Are we to believe TRUMP knows or understands 1/100th of what Musk gives him?The man who never reads the Daily Intel Briefs? Who wouldn't accept memos more than one page and needed graphs, maps and pictures to understand what he needs to know? THAT'S the guy that isn't just accepting what Musk tells him needs to be cut. Right.
Again, Musk can't do anything other than make recommendations. SO, he cannot do what you claim here.
 
I'm confused as to what you're upset about here? They found 4.7T in spending that isn't labeled and thus can't be traced. SO they changed the rules to state that everything must be labeled going forward, that way we can trace where the money goes. Are you saying this is a bad thing?
 
Shall we talk EV tax breaks? Also teet money. SpaceX was built on 38B of government teet. He may be second behind the banksters, in most government money to a single person.
Your getting pissed over a savvy business man taking advantage of government programs. What came first? Must getting government funds or the government making the funds available?
 
This is very specific. Tax credits for manufacturing
Advanced Manufacturing Production Tax Credit: Provides a credit for producing eligible battery components in the US, including cells, modules, and active materials.
ALL Democrat programs. ALL Climate Bullshit programs. Get mad at the morons that made these available, not the person that played the game.
 
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You keep moving the goalposts. This is the equivalent of Soros running DOGE.
No it isn't. Soros has never provided anything meaningful first of all. Soros is known for using his money to topple governments. Soros made money on other people losing money. Soros also supported DA's all across the country that refuse to prosecute crimes that have caused looting and assaults to run rampant, because they don't get prosecuted. Soros is a total piece of shit.

Musk, OTOH, has produced products that we need and enjoy as every day citizens. Musk's products have been for the good of all Americans. Musk bought Twitter so that free speech could exist (an essential American value).

There is NO comparison between Musk and Soros and to suggest otherwise, I think you might actually have Musk derangement syndrome.
 
No I mean the 7500 per car tax incentives. Battery production and storage money. I thought climate change was fake? Why are we spending money on fake green shit like teslas and batteries. Why are we propping this bs up?
That goes to ALL EV manufactures. Not just Musk. What do you want him to do, sell Tesla so he can work on DOGE for the limited time he will be there?
 
If Elons ideas can't compete in the market maybe they are bad ideas. How much more investment do I have to make in SpaceX before I, the extremely high tax bracket tax payer, get something back?
Who said his ideas are bad? Why put up your own money if the government is willing to do it for you? Musk did nothing more than be a savvy business man. Stop hating.
 
The point is not whether private businessman Musk has been benefiting from government programs.

The point is not whether those programs were under Dem or Rep administrations.

The point is that a private company that has, is, and will continue to be benefiting is now making decisions on behalf of the government. It’s transparently ridiculous and embarrassing.
 
Why did NOAA exist? NOAA wasn't about the USA. The earth's oceans are not the USA. The earth's atmosphere is not the USA. NOAA was a bunch of nerds who were squealing about global warming. It's like the Dept of Education, a bureaucracy created with no purpose.

It's a great plase for Elon Musk to ask: "What did you do last week?"
Yes, NOAA is a major source of the Climate Change farce. THAT needs to stop because the narrative has already done irreparable damage, but we need to stop it before it goes too far. It's time to get back to sanity.
 
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Of course, the new Director of the FBI has stated that he wants the FBI to move away from financial crimes and address violent crimes such as rapes and murders. Unfortunately that guy has quite literally never worked one single day in law enforcement, never mind federal law enforcement. And rapes and murders are most certainly not federal crimes. Effing clown show.
Why don't you look up Kash's experience and then come back and admit the obvious, that you don't know what you are talking about.

It should not take you long. I'll wait.
 
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Why did NOAA exist? NOAA wasn't about the USA. The earth's oceans are not the USA. The earth's atmosphere is not the USA. NOAA was a bunch of nerds who were squealing about global warming. It's like the Dept of Education, a bureaucracy created with no purpose.

It's a great plase for Elon Musk to ask: "What did you do last week?"
This is the problem when knuckle dragging idiots get involved with science. You can't make predictions for things like hurricanes, dod operations in the arctic, etc... without a lot of data. You can't make a generic north American weather forecast without data from Canada. You know NOTHING about NOAA.
 
Not that any of us are at that spot, but I thought it was pretty common knowledge that at some point money is no longer a motivator. On a smaller scale I'm sure many of us pay "something" we could do, but at our point of wealth we may pay someone to do it because we consider it cheap enough. I can't imagine having the money that Trump or Elon have...to do anything ...anytime they want without adding to their wealth.
What do all men with power want? More power.
 
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