And if we lose this kid to Minnesota all I have to say is wow just wow we're losing kids to Minnesota now
Eric Hunter Official.
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wouldn't have been an issue in 1973, but location isn't as big a factor as once
I can see is having trouble pulling a kid from Minnesota. But a kid for my own state and we're battling Minnesota for him shouldn't happen sorry it shouldn't
1Nice, make up a straw man and then tell us how terrible it is. What a crock.
OSU is the bigger threat at the moment, but Minny could jump up too with a good closing visit. It's going to be a fight to the finish.
Your still a troll. I just want cred for being one of the first to call you out.
Eric knows where he fits best. If he chooses to go elsewhere that's his dission. Nothing Coach or the university did to mess it up. He just felt things would better somewhere else. I believe he will end up at PU but if I was 17 or 18 I would be digging the fact that schools were rolling out the red carpet for me. It's life.
I don't understand why so many people think that kids feel staying in-state is such a major factor. It sure doesn't seem that way to me.
Heavily recruited kids for the most part have played all over the country and know that their families will be either getting to games or watching them on their cable package.
It seems more important to the fans of in-state schools than to the kids or their families.
Maybe I misapprehend it...
Heavily recruited kids for the most part have played all over the country and know that their families will be either getting to games or watching them on their cable package.
It seems more important to the fans of in-state schools than to the kids or their families.
Maybe I misapprehend it...
I read a tweet by that WR from largo that he likes playing in Florida, but he'd also love to play elsewhere as a primary reason he has 5 BIG 10 offers.
I am biased here, but I think Purdue is his best option. Playing time is available and this class needs a scoring guard (current projected minutes at PG available too). Long relationship with coaches should help here too. Painter also has the comparison of how E'twuan Moore was used and developed at Purdue. Another 6'4 scoring guard similar to Hunter who is now in his 2nd contract in NBA. Not saying Hunter is as good as Moore at this age, but he has a ton of upside.
I think Minnesota is too risky of a pick at this point. Yes, they had a great year last year. Yes, they return a lot of talent. However, last season was the first time since 04-05 that they finished over .500 in B1G conference play. How will they respond this year when they get every teams best effort every night?
Ohio State is who worries me. They have projected playing time available and Holtman can sell the blank canvas pitch of making OSU great again. The hook is if Hunter realizes 95% of OSU fans really don't care about how great OSU is in basketball.
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Shouldn't you be back on the iu site already there troll mctrollface? I seriously doubt anyone buys your a Boiler any more.
I knew I was not alone with the early call. This is not some old dude that does not know any better. I think 73 crafts his message to give an appearance of a caring person with a different opinion. He is a troll that gets a charge out trying to get people to bite on his garbage.
easy, I've been the victim of auto-correct, fat fingers (really not fat) and blindness on a few of my posts. Still, if Eric "thinks" rather than "feels" he will be a boiler...
With AAU, kids are used to playing basketball all over the country, leaving the state isn't a big deal to them anymore and for many, they are so used to leaving the state that they prefer to play out of state and that is a big part of their college decision, so instate schools are almost handicapped anymore.
I was just asking for my Black Berry back the other day. The one with the raised keypad. These IPhones can be a challenge
So you think if hunter commits to Minnesota that painter didn't do his job. You simply have no clue it's simple many of these kids want to leave there state period. Many wanna go out of state bcuz they feel it will be more like being away at school. My son had northwestern 5 min from my house has depaul and Illinois all in state schools recruiting him and he chose purdue bcuz he wanted to go to a school out of state (even tho it's only a 2 hour drive) bcuz he wanted to leave Chicago period. Painter has shown up at his school , his house and calling him on a regular basis like he did mine to let hunter no he wants him and that is all he can do. That kid and his parents ultimately makes the decisions based on what they feel is best for there child. Leave it alone buddy you will never win this battle as long as painter is doing his job well and he is he will be purdue coach for a very long time. if you don't like what painter and his staff are doing than move on find a team that can get the in state kids you think that should be here and not be out recruited by other schools than you are more delusional than I thought. Everything you post is negative, mean spirited down right out hateful and you my friend are no fan you claim you are but a man who knows nothing but think he knows everything. Keep your post coming I will respond to each of them and post my reply and expose you for what you are not A FAN. I no more about recruiting than you bcuz I went through the process and I'll let all those no the truth in this recruiting business. I hope to God you never come to any games at purdue bcuz this group of young men deserve a better fan than you.
It is fans like 1973 that have the ability to only look at the black and white instead of the entirety of the situation. Although we as fans believe Hunter's best fit is Purdue, but the kid himself may believe something totally different. The pull of playing in-state also isn't what it used to be because of technology that allows families to stay in constant contact with one another through FaceTime, Skype, etc. Also, parents are able to see their children play more and more as television has expanded more and more. If Hunter were to play in Minny, his family could easily watch him play at Purdue, IU, Illinois, NU, and OSU with little traveling required.
what you just said accurate bcuz when we were narrowing our options that was my dilemma trying to figure out how wud I get to those games like Rutgers , Maryland,penn state and some other schools that's 4 or more hours away for me to drive and with mall the TV packages and Espn available my worries were put to rest. So hunter gotta do what's best for him like my son did what was best for him. I new the opportunity my son had coming here even tho he had many opportunities to play and start other places we cud have chosen to go to school depaul for instant but he chose purdue bcuz of how painter recruited him. The team made him feel like he was a part of the team the academics well no need to speak of that top notch and knowing this team he felt has a chance with the recruits he has and those that are there that this team will be very good. The location was perfect too so it was a no brainer for my son why he chose this school over Mich st and others. If hunter don't come than hey opportunity missed. Team still gonna be good next season when the seniors leave. There is no way of judging how kids think or what they want but my son just felt like in his heart of heart that purdue was the right school for him and has everything for him to be successful on and off the court. Also as a NBA scout told me if you can play and have to talent to play at the next level we will find you so doesn't matter if you at Kentucky,Duke and Kansas. You can play your way into NBA conversations if you do what you do on the court even if you not projected a one and done or NBA prospect. I wish hunter well but I rather have a player here that wants to be here bcuz he feels he can help the team win and get to a natl championship and that time is coming.
Great to hear a parent echo what many rational fans have been able to see since the inception of the BTN and other cable providers. Many times a young person will have an awesome parent (like yourself) guiding them along the way to a decision and ultimately it is up to the young man or woman to make the decision they are comfortable with. When a parent gets too highly involved, I believe that is when a young player tends to transfer because the decision was made for them instead of allowing them to make the decision for themselves. Glad to add you, your family, and close friends as Purdue fans (and obviously your son as a player)!!
Exactly right. There are a few on here like 73 that think in a vacuum when comes to recruiting and we have proof right here in this thread that is not the case.
I've said time and time again that there are probably many reasons why a player chooses a school and what is important to one recruit is not important to another. Sad thing is there are a few on here that won't accept this even though we have it straight from a parent that went through the process.
Add it to the coddling many of these big time recruits get and it's no wonder why CMP doesn't usually land them...he doesn't coddle and he has very high expectations for players on and off the court. Biggie I believe showed that as he grew up without the coddling and in a very similar fashion as to how CMP runs his program. I'll take kids like Nojel who have great ability and great intangibles rather than a coddle one and done...ala Ben Simmons.
I'm not plus or minus on landing in state recruits. As a youth, I chose an out of state school (Purdue) over my instate school (Wisconsin) primarily because of its name, the cost was cheaper and to get away from my parent smothering me with her love. And I know many other students who left home and went to a school as far away as possible for the very same reasons. And my own son has told my wife on many occasions it embarrassed him .when she would come to the games and root for him. Some children, for better or worse chose a college just to get away from their home life . and many parents encourage their children to go to a school to get out of their home life situation and the bad influences surrounding it. The movie Blind Side comes to mind. this is a fact of life.
The question I raise is how can Painter and Purdue make Purdue a destination that elite players want to come to and play for? Most players are smart enough to see Purdue has 4 seniors leaving, and there would be some great opportunities for playing time next year. Elite players knew about Biggie. they knew he was probably going to go pro early. But when given a chance to play for Purdue and fill his void, they still chose other schools. Why is Purdue such a hard sell?
I'm fine with a guy like Phinisee wanting to go to IU. But there should be a PG somewhere out there of the same caliber that is interested in coming to Purdue. I'm fine with Langford going elsewhere, but I'd like to know the reasons he didn't like Purdue. I'm ok with JJJ choosing MSU, but I'd like to know and see an honest reply as to why he chose MSU.
the majority of posters here are intelligent and basketball savy - some more than others. We have current and past coaches who post here, and former players and parents of players. They have made many logical points why Purdue would make an excellent fit for certain players. I doubt players are choosing other schools to spite our posters or fans here. there are many instances where I can't believe a player would chose a certain school, and also a certain situation, but they do. Sven Nader was a tremendous center and proved it in both the NBA and ABA. but he chose to play at UCLA and be Bill Walton's back-up for 4 years. his decision would be unheard of today. he sure didn't pick UCLA because he wanted playing time. I know why my son chose SIU over U of I and all those division 2, 3 and NAIA schools.
I don't want to influence a recruit's decision to attend Purdue. I'd just like to hear a recruit be honest and give the real reasons he chose a particular school and/or why an athlete didn't choose Purdue. I've been part of a lot of volunteer organizations. And I've seen a lot of people either quit or join other organizations and never give their reasons why; like leaving my church. if people could be honest and give me an honest answer, I can accept that. Maybe I could fix it. I passed up an opportunity of a lifetime to work for Citibank in NYC. my wife also passed up several lucrative job opportunities. But at least we were honest and informed them why.
I realize players probably do inform coaches of their decisions and the reasons why. Maybe I just seek too much information. My primary reason for joining sports forums was to seek information rather than share the little knowledge I have.
The question I raise is how can Painter and Purdue make Purdue a destination that elite players want to come to and play for? Most players are smart enough to see Purdue has 4 seniors leaving, and there would be some great opportunities for playing time next year. Elite players knew about Biggie. they knew he was probably going to go pro early. But when given a chance to play for Purdue and fill his void, they still chose other schools. Why is Purdue such a hard sell?
I'm fine with a guy like Phinisee wanting to go to IU. But there should be a PG somewhere out there of the same caliber that is interested in coming to Purdue. I'm fine with Langford going elsewhere, but I'd like to know the reasons he didn't like Purdue. I'm ok with JJJ choosing MSU, but I'd like to know and see an honest reply as to why he chose MSU.
the majority of posters here are intelligent and basketball savy - some more than others. We have current and past coaches who post here, and former players and parents of players. They have made many logical points why Purdue would make an excellent fit for certain players. I doubt players are choosing other schools to spite our posters or fans here. there are many instances where I can't believe a player would chose a certain school, and also a certain situation, but they do. Sven Nader was a tremendous center and proved it in both the NBA and ABA. but he chose to play at UCLA and be Bill Walton's back-up for 4 years. his decision would be unheard of today. he sure didn't pick UCLA because he wanted playing time. I know why my son chose SIU over U of I and all those division 2, 3 and NAIA schools.
I don't want to influence a recruit's decision to attend Purdue. I'd just like to hear a recruit be honest and give the real reasons he chose a particular school and/or why an athlete didn't choose Purdue. I've been part of a lot of volunteer organizations. And I've seen a lot of people either quit or join other organizations and never give their reasons why; like leaving my church. if people could be honest and give me an honest answer, I can accept that. Maybe I could fix it. I passed up an opportunity of a lifetime to work for Citibank in NYC. my wife also passed up several lucrative job opportunities. But at least we were honest and informed them why.
I realize players probably do inform coaches of their decisions and the reasons why. Maybe I just seek too much information. My primary reason for joining sports forums was to seek information rather than share the little knowledge I have.
Let me try to help you understand why certain elite players choose other schools and not purdue. Matt painter we all can agree is a very good coach and have a great basketball mind. B4 my son was being recruited around 7/8 grade I did not no purdue existed or who MP was but I had heard of Duke, Kentucky, Kansas already and I had not even started following college basketball yet. Simple put his name isn't coach K coach self coach calipari, coach miller , coach izzo to name a few coaches that have had success in there years of coaching. MP has been successful maybe not to there degree but he is widely respected among his peers of coaches but just don't have the same reputation they all have. Kids sees that and many wud rather go to those schools bcuz of just that name of the school name of the coach and not a school that cud better showcase there talents. Many wud think they are 1 and done and many won't be , but rather take there chances at those schools bcuz they feel they have the best opportunity to get to the NBA. What I no is this from many scouts who scout for NBA teams is this if you got NBA potential and play on the big stage under the bright light they will find you and as you can see purdue has had it's fair share of players come through purdue and now successful in the NBA. Remember this it's not just getting into the NBA but staying in the NBA getting that 2nd contract that sets you up for life. Many one and done won't make it to there 2nd contract bcuz many not ready but taking the money now rather than improve there stock stay another year to impress NBA GM's making them see you as a long term player. No matter what all have to prove there worth and if you not playing how can you play for a 2nd contract. Big things gonna happen this season I feel it and this team so underrated will shock all the doubters.
Thanks for confirming what we all kinda pretty much knew, the path to continuously getting the 5 & high 4 stars to come to any school is through sustained NCAA tournament successes. And we're not just talking about making it to the tournament but making a deep run into the tournament consistently. There are exceptions of course but that what's required.
From your list above, all except Sean Miller have been to Final Fours. Miller has been to several E8 however. This is what Painter need to do, so he get the same name recognition as these other coaches mentioned above and finally get Purdue basketball to where it belongs.
And I hope you are right about our team this year, but a sweet 16 (E8 with some luck) is what I see out of our this team with rebounding as our biggest issue. I've said rebounding will be an issue since before the end of last year, many didn't agree at that time, but was obvious during the WUG final game. And I haven't seen anything that have changed my mind unless Taylor/Wheeler/Ewing/Haarms step up another notch in rebounding.
I am around scholar-athletes every day. What she says is totally right. Close your eyes and imagine .... what 7th grade AAU national star dreams of playing for Purdue? Who do they dream of playing for? Make a list. It will have at least 8 teams on it. None are PU. So, they go through 8th and 9th grade, and Purdue comes into their lives. As do Xavier, Marquette, Minny, Iowa State, who know who, but so far, not one of the eight on the list they've dreamed about for years. Now it's the summer after their sophomore year. They are talking with PU, Minny, Xavier, Butler. And they blow up in AAU summer play. Out of the blue, Kansas, L'ville, KY, MSU, and NC make contact. All of them have been on that list they made in the 7th grade. Some show more interest than others, but three of them are interested. ANd PU, Xavier, Iowa State, and Butler ramp-up the interest. They now can go to Kansas, MSU, L'ville, IU, PU, Xavier, Butler. They've dreamed of going to MSU or Kansas for four years. PU has a need for their skills, Painter is a great guy, Mom loves him. But MSU is close to home and they've hoped they'd offer for four years .....
thanks. When my son was a freshmen, all he thought about was playing for Michigan. he was 6'4 and played center. We went to Coach K's camp because of his name and his friend was going, and Coach Weber's camp because we live in Illinois, and he was the Illinois coach, and Coach Lowry's camp at SIU because it was local.. We then played AAU to try to get noticed because we attended a small high school in Southern Illinois. that never got noticed.. . My son was much like yours, except he stopped growing, and playing at a small school, he was asked to play center and never developed an outside game. . he loved playing defense a lot more than offense. he did all the stuff that didn't show up in the box score.
he knew about Purdue simply because mom and dad graduated from it. But he had no real desire to go there or any knowledge of Painter or his success. he never heard of Keady and all he'd ask was has Purdue ever been to a final 4? In 8th and 9th grade, that's al l he and his friends cared about - making the final 4.
If he had grown 3-4 more inches, and received offers from Purdue and Michigan and MSU and UK and Kansas and Duke, and UCLA, and the local SIU, I'm quite certain he would have chosen Michigan. And as a parent, I would have allowed him to make his choice as long as it wasn't Louisville or UK. I have to believe that's how it is in most households. I have to believe parents have some input, but mostly allow their son to go their own path.
I can imagine for a legacy child like Mount, Parkinson, Robinson, Stephens , etc, there is probably some pressure to attend the same school. And I can believe there is probably some pressure from the local community to stay local or at least in state.
but for somebody like Hunter, or Langford or JJJ or Phinisee, I have to believe their parents probably said, it's your decision with a couple of caveats, as long as it's not a certain school. if m y son was good enough to play for a BIG 10 school, I'd let him play for Michigan. it's a great academic school. the coach seems honest and runs a clean program, and it's where my son wanted to go. So I'd say ok, and people on this board would hopefully respect me and my son's decision.
But your reply begs the question because my son felt the same way about Painter in 9th grade as your son did. Painter is kind of a boring unknown. he doesn't make a lot of headlines. Purdue has very few scandals. and year in and year out Purdue plugs in 20-25 wins, but doesn't make a splash.
What do Painter and Purdue have to do to get noticed around the country ? Do they need to make a Final 4? Do they need to win a championship? Does Painter have to win a World championship? My thought about the WUG was that it would give painter more credibility than Purdue. Winning a WUG looks good on a resume and looks good in the trophy case. .
being a Purdue alum, I just assumed everyone knew how great a program Purdue was. . but I guess if you're a child from a different state all you really know about Purdue is how they did against your local team, and how they performed in the tourney. Before Painter started recruiting Emory, what did he really know about Purdue? it seems like the regular season and BIG 10 championships are becoming meaningless, much like the AAU pool games. they just count for seeding purposes. And somebody out of state doesn't really know much or care much about Purdue. When we lived in Alabama and Florida, many people thought Purdue was somewhere on the East Coast, maybe an Ivy league school. sort of like Villanova, Seton Hall and John Hopkins. . I hate to say it, but a lot of people think the ivy league has over 50 schools as they keep saying, isn't that school an Ivy League school?
he knew about Purdue simply because mom and dad graduated from it. But he had no real desire to go there or any knowledge of Painter or his success. he never heard of Keady and all he'd ask was has Purdue ever been to a final 4? In 8th and 9th grade, that's al l he and his friends cared about - making the final 4.
If he had grown 3-4 more inches, and received offers from Purdue and Michigan and MSU and UK and Kansas and Duke, and UCLA, and the local SIU, I'm quite certain he would have chosen Michigan. And as a parent, I would have allowed him to make his choice as long as it wasn't Louisville or UK. I have to believe that's how it is in most households. I have to believe parents have some input, but mostly allow their son to go their own path.
I can imagine for a legacy child like Mount, Parkinson, Robinson, Stephens , etc, there is probably some pressure to attend the same school. And I can believe there is probably some pressure from the local community to stay local or at least in state.
but for somebody like Hunter, or Langford or JJJ or Phinisee, I have to believe their parents probably said, it's your decision with a couple of caveats, as long as it's not a certain school. if m y son was good enough to play for a BIG 10 school, I'd let him play for Michigan. it's a great academic school. the coach seems honest and runs a clean program, and it's where my son wanted to go. So I'd say ok, and people on this board would hopefully respect me and my son's decision.
But your reply begs the question because my son felt the same way about Painter in 9th grade as your son did. Painter is kind of a boring unknown. he doesn't make a lot of headlines. Purdue has very few scandals. and year in and year out Purdue plugs in 20-25 wins, but doesn't make a splash.
What do Painter and Purdue have to do to get noticed around the country ? Do they need to make a Final 4? Do they need to win a championship? Does Painter have to win a World championship? My thought about the WUG was that it would give painter more credibility than Purdue. Winning a WUG looks good on a resume and looks good in the trophy case. .
being a Purdue alum, I just assumed everyone knew how great a program Purdue was. . but I guess if you're a child from a different state all you really know about Purdue is how they did against your local team, and how they performed in the tourney. Before Painter started recruiting Emory, what did he really know about Purdue? it seems like the regular season and BIG 10 championships are becoming meaningless, much like the AAU pool games. they just count for seeding purposes. And somebody out of state doesn't really know much or care much about Purdue. When we lived in Alabama and Florida, many people thought Purdue was somewhere on the East Coast, maybe an Ivy league school. sort of like Villanova, Seton Hall and John Hopkins. . I hate to say it, but a lot of people think the ivy league has over 50 schools as they keep saying, isn't that school an Ivy League school?
I don't care if anybody thinks I'm IU troll. Maybe you're the troll because you're satisfied with being average. Only a fan of another school would be satisfied with Purdue being average.
You'll be on here fifteen years from now calling other people IU trolls when we still haven't made a final four. Given the same excuses over and over
I am just kidding about the punk comment. You did however out yourself. I have never called you a IU troll. Just a troll. The IU part was an assumption but never stated.
sometimes being and having a troll is a good thing. A troll is by nature an instigator. if we all agreed with each other's opinions, there would be no reason to have a forum. I've seen some sports forums that haven't had a post in over 3 years. BigReed got lonely talking to himself, and he changed his name and came here and has made around 1835 posts some of which others liked and responded to. Others which many hated, but still responded to. . .
http://oldgoldfreepress.com/forums/MrGridironRecruiting/index.shtml
http://oldgoldfreepress.com/forums/MrGridironRecruiting/index.shtml
I believe he called all of us trolls and he was the lone Purdue poster for disagreeing with him .
Here is what I found. In reply to a PU fan, he referred to Purdue as "you"...then someone called him out on it and he quickly edited it to read "we". He previously referred to IU as "we".
Boilerman1973 said: ↑
I don't think you're equal to IU until you put up a final four and a national championship but I am clueless. You haven't been to the final four since what the early 80s we was in the final four in 2002
Boilerman1973 said: ↑
I don't think you're equal to IU until you put up a final four and a national championship but I am clueless. You haven't been to the final four since what the early 80s we was in the final four in 2002
I know what you are talking about. I don't mind different opinions being shared. This one particular poster 1973, bugs me to a point I can't help but respond. As soon as he/she says something intelligent I will give him credit.
I'm ok being average you obviously care so much it's driving you crazy that purdue hasn't been to a final 4 oh well get a life old man. You absolutely no troll you are a man who got cut from the basketball team 35/40 years ago and you piss bcuz purdue is average and hasn't been to a final 4. Miserable man why do you bother with anything that purdue does it's obvious you mad and you can't do nothing about it but get on a message board and Pout about it. If it take 15 years till they get it I'm ok with that hopefully you have moved on and found another team to dislike creepy man. Guess what it make take 40 years than will you still be mad keep them coming sir I got a response every single time you post this nonsense.
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