1) I don't know if I would say that Martin/Hummel was a package deal.
2) I have no idea how anyone can say that Martin/Hummel worked out well.
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1) I don't know if I would say that Martin/Hummel was a package deal.
2) I have no idea how anyone can say that Martin/Hummel worked out well.
Hummell and Martin both came to Purdue from the same school and AAU team. to me, that's a package deal. I could care less tha t martin left, but with Hummell our team excelled. and that's how package deals work. You take one to get the one you want. very seldom do both players work out. I bet MSU loved to have Randolph, and adding Green was gravy.
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If I remember correctly most observers considered Martin to be the better player in HS.
There is no way the program wanted to lose him. Had he stayed that would have been an incredible 3 and 4 combo.
I can't support the idea that it worked out as well as it could have. It was terrific with only Hummel so imagine what could have been.
good or bad, I still believe it was a package deal , and that was point. we have 4 scholarships to give. GO back t o m y original point. many schools give package deals - I used 2 examples. if you really want hunter, give one of our other scholarships to henry, it's that simple.
and forget all those argumentative posts about martin leaving us. this thread is about hunter. offer his friend a scholarship and you get hunter. . And who knows? henry might be a nice addition as well.
Can you cite a source that says if we give Henry an offer, we get Hunter? I've missed that.
In an interview he State h needs to play with Henry. They played together in the past. It isn't a guarantee by any stretch of the imagination, but Henry is good enough to deserve an offer on his own and we need a wing.
I agree on a package deal if he was a high four-star five star player I like Hunter and I hope we get him. But I don't want to sacrifice 2 scholarships for him.
Hummel and Martin both were good we wanted both of them. If Martin would have stayed and neither one of them would have got hurt two national championships. That's what I believe
No argument on the package deal. I'm sure it can have a positive effect. That just didn't peak my interest as much as the dismissal (maybe just my perception) of Martins capability and how good the pair could have been.
Okay. We'll ignore the Martin being really good part. I have no problem with the package idea. But why has Matt not offered Henry? Could there be a legitimate reason or is he just not offering for spite?
Who cares? Our head coach didn't offer him...what else do we or you need to know? Is what it is!!! Have some damn faith...
I don't know much about Henry. He's a wing, and we need a wing. He's received offers from some other BIG name schools, so he should be good enough to play for Purdue. And he's a friend of Hunter, which is not a guarantee of landing a Hunter, but would be a positive factor.
And I'm going to disagree with boilermaker1973! We're not giving up two scholarships to land Hunter, because one of those scholarships would be for Hunter. What we are doing is using 2 scholarships to land Hunter and Henry. We want Hunter, and we have a need for a wing, and Henry is as good as the majority of our targeted avaible wings. If we signed Hunter and Henry as a package deal, we'd be filling two needs/desires. It's not like we'd be giving away a scholarship just to sign Hunter. Henry is a very good player himself. And by signing Hunter and Henry, we'd still have one scholarship left to sign another BIG, and one left to sign a guard.
As I said in the Phinisee thread, we have 4 scholarships to give. Sure I'm sad we didn't sign certain players, but adding Hunter and Henry would be a decent addition of talent to add to Williams.
And I'm going to disagree with boilermaker1973! We're not giving up two scholarships to land Hunter, because one of those scholarships would be for Hunter. What we are doing is using 2 scholarships to land Hunter and Henry. We want Hunter, and we have a need for a wing, and Henry is as good as the majority of our targeted avaible wings. If we signed Hunter and Henry as a package deal, we'd be filling two needs/desires. It's not like we'd be giving away a scholarship just to sign Hunter. Henry is a very good player himself. And by signing Hunter and Henry, we'd still have one scholarship left to sign another BIG, and one left to sign a guard.
As I said in the Phinisee thread, we have 4 scholarships to give. Sure I'm sad we didn't sign certain players, but adding Hunter and Henry would be a decent addition of talent to add to Williams.
I don't think Henry would redshirt. A) Lack of depth at the wing. B) He is already physically ready for college. He has great size and can score. He is also a winner. I am not saying he would necessarily start day 1, but he would contribute. There has got to be a reason why Painter hasn't offered him yet, and I sure would love to know.
That's what I am saying. If he doesn't get an offer it's because he doesn't fit despite what our professional board recruiting geniuses think.
Exactly. Why would any coach do that? They wouldn't. If an offer never comes for Henry that means there is a reason not to give him a scholarship. I keep seeing posts saying Painter HAS to offer him. If he is deserving of an offer based on ability, cultural fit, and has any mutual interest, he'll get on offer. If not, he won't regardless of the opinion of message board recruiting experts. The spite comment was meant to point that out but obviously failed
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It worked out extremely well, at the time Martin was the one everyone wanted and Hummel was the one you took to get him.
Maybe Painter hasn't extended an official offer because Henry made it clear upfront that he wasn't really interested in Purdue. Whatever it is, I'm sure it's a good reason. Now let's go seal the deal with Hunter...
It's a shocker for some on here that maybe, just maybe, a recruit just simply either doesn't want to come here or likes somewhere else other than Purdue for a myriad of reasons.
There is no coach on the planet that can come to Purdue and change that and essentially force a recruit to play here.
Hummel was a top 75 recruit, and he committed before Martin did. CMP didn't take Hummel in order to secure Martin's commitment.
I'm sure Painter has seen Henry play dozens of times at this point. He hasn't offered. There's got to be a reason why, but it is what it is.
24/7 lists MSU, OSU, ILL, Xavier and Butler as Henry's top 5 , with IU, UCONN and Nebraska giving offers. it doesn't even list Purdue as interested.
two interesting tidbits is that it lists Ball St and Ind St as interested, but neither school giving an offer. to me, that's a flag. Why would a school like ball st or Ind St show interest, but not offer?
it also reflects Louisville as having two coaches recruiting him, but extending no offer.
the site also lists henry as 6'5 and 200 pounds, which to me is kind of short to play SF. I personally like V Edwards and Wheeler as an SF.
I do find it interesting to see the lack of Interest by Painter in henry, and Henry's lack of interest in Purdue. Henry appears to be this year's Bowen. Bowen had a lot of talent as well, but never had interest in Purdue, and painter never pursued him.
As has been said by many before, not every player likes Purdue, and Painter doesn't recruit players solely on their talent .
two interesting tidbits is that it lists Ball St and Ind St as interested, but neither school giving an offer. to me, that's a flag. Why would a school like ball st or Ind St show interest, but not offer?
it also reflects Louisville as having two coaches recruiting him, but extending no offer.
the site also lists henry as 6'5 and 200 pounds, which to me is kind of short to play SF. I personally like V Edwards and Wheeler as an SF.
I do find it interesting to see the lack of Interest by Painter in henry, and Henry's lack of interest in Purdue. Henry appears to be this year's Bowen. Bowen had a lot of talent as well, but never had interest in Purdue, and painter never pursued him.
As has been said by many before, not every player likes Purdue, and Painter doesn't recruit players solely on their talent .
I posted previously that I found it odd that he is going into his senior year and hadn't taken the SATs yet. Maybe there was concern from Painter on his academics and making an offer.
Maybe Painter thought he could slow play and wait until he took his SATs and was going to be able to get into Purdue before he offered. Potentially it backfired as Henry really blew up this year and got a lot of big time offers.
Maybe we are in much better shape with THT than anyone realizes....world of possibilities.
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academics is a big thing - especially at Purdue. but in football, we have frequently at least offered . a scholarship even knowing the player hadn't academically qualified yet. We offered BIG Dog knowing he didn't academically qualify. We've offered several players and then sent them to prep school to qualify.
Henry just seems like this year's Bowen - a player of mutual non-interest from both parties. I'm not sure why.
There was never a package deal involving Martin and Hummel period . In fact the day before Martin committed Painter called him and Howard (who chose Butler after Martin accepted) and said he would accept only one of them because Johnson had verbally committed and he had only one scholarship left . And I have never seen anything where a package deal was sought by Hunter . IMO we will sign Hunter if were the best fit for him . Painter does not play games or give guarantee's to any recruits like it or not . Read Nojel's moms post again .
JaJuan Johnson had actually committed quite a while before that, in fact I think he was the first one of the four to commit.
Football has a lot more margin for error than hoops as a recruiting spot lost to academics in hoops is a huge percentage of that class.
Along time ago hindsight now but Howard would have been a sweet deal for us. Stuff happens.
For the last time Robbie Hummel was not a second option we didn't take him just to get Scott Martin we wanted him he was ranked in the top 80 so was Martin we wanted both of them
You people are totally missing my point. Basketball players talk to each other. hunter and henry are friends. One player could influence the other's decision. we have 4 scholarships to give. We need a wing. henry is better than any other wing available. You can't sign him if you don't offer him. and as an added bonus, it would make hunter happy.
I'm quite certain both martin and Hummel were happy guys the Summer they both signed with Purdue. it was just an example of two players being friends; talking together and signing at the same school. I didn't mean to have a history lesson.
I'm quite certain both martin and Hummel were happy guys the Summer they both signed with Purdue. it was just an example of two players being friends; talking together and signing at the same school. I didn't mean to have a history lesson.
Purdue wanted both M&H. Martin in HS was thought of as the better prospect. It showed in flashes during some games his freshman year. Martin was the last to commit. I just think he was never really sold on Purdue. He was sold on the fact that maybe comitting was what he "should or supposed" to do. With how the basketball landscape was around that time. He couldn't handle how much Hummel popularity wise past him over. He could do a lot of the same things Robbie could, but he didn't shoot the three or play with intesity on defense like Hummel. I still say if Martin doesn't commit. Then Purdue ends up with Teague or Howard. Most likely Howard. Then we get Hayward too. Couple of National titles to boot.
Howard was a lean to Xavier until just a few short weeks before he pulled the trigger for Butler, so not sure that was going to work out for PU, unless you think Howard was all in on PU? And Hayward visited PU, didn't have a great impression and that was the end.
I always heard Howard wanted a smaller university experience. Maybe that was a justification of why he didn't choose us?
Hunter kind of reminds me of Eastern at this time last season and of Vince Edwards before he committed 4 years ago in that if he chooses Purdue, I'll feel good about this class regardless of what else happens. I think that with Williams and Hunter, Painter will have addressed its two biggest needs to compliment the 2017 class. It won't be easy to land Hunter, but I feel like Purdue has a good shot with him.
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