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EMBARRASING!

Morgan, you can keep this staff and I will keep my $$$.
esp. for a Homecoming game.


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Morgan is watching this too and I have no idea how he can justify keeping the staff on the payroll after this display. A team that put up a big fat ZERO on the board last week vs PSU (not exactly a good team these days) and gave up 39 looks like a B1G contender against us AT OUR HOME.

Money is the issue? Fire these guys and go with an interim coach for 1 year. I would be OK with that plan. See if anyone on the staff (other than Shoop and Hudson) have what it takes to make a successful coach.

Basically any plan is better than the current plan.
 
I said it before several times: cut the cord
It's the only way.
Don't buy the crap from the minions on "supporting the players" and "fair weather fans".
Money talks - it may take another season until they really feel it but it's the only way.
This Admin is tone deaf as long as the folks keep ponying up the money
And that definitely includes the new football building.
Captain Morgan can pay for it out of his and Nancy Cross's bonus annual money - what a joke
 
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This last play (failed 4th down and goal)... We run to the short side and there were 4 white jerseys and 2 black jerseys in the last replay. Out of those 2 black jerseys we had only one who was actually engaged in a block.

We were trying to block 4 guys with 1 guy. This is beyond embarrassing at this point.
 
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We ran Hope out town and he was 5-7 his first year. DH has 6 wins in 3 years! I bet he's the highest paid coach per win? 1 million per!
 
This looks exactly like 2013! This is absolutely no better than what Danny Etling was doing 2 years ago!
 
Morgan is watching this too and I have no idea how he can justify keeping the staff on the payroll after this display. A team that put up a big fat ZERO on the board last week vs PSU (not exactly a good team these days) and gave up 39 looks like a B1G contender against us AT OUR HOME.

Money is the issue? Fire these guys and go with an interim coach for 1 year. I would be OK with that plan. See if anyone on the staff (other than Shoop and Hudson) have what it takes to make a successful coach.

Basically any plan is better than the current plan.
Only problem with your interim idea is recruiting. You might be ok with that but what recruit is going to come here with an interim coach and not know who they will be playing for.
 
This is so classic. It was like the administration was looking for any reason whatsoever to keep DH so when they actually beat a Big10 opponent and look pretty good they announce right away he's coming back next year. Then when they go out the next game and lay a freaking egg against a bad team like Illinois.
 
People keep talking about excellence. I think an finance campaign that does not address this football abortion is not getting mu funds. I agree with what Purdue is doing in trying to reduce student costs while providing a great education but if they are not going to try to be at least competitive I am not going to support it. Will be the first time in 20 years we do not have season tickets, and will not be members of the John Purdue club or Presidents council. Who to hell is Burke Ever True to....swimming
 
People keep talking about excellence. I think an finance campaign that does not address this football abortion is not getting mu funds. I agree with what Purdue is doing in trying to reduce student costs while providing a great education but if they are not going to try to be at least competitive I am not going to support it. Will be the first time in 20 years we do not have season ticket, and will not be members of the John Purdue club or Presidents council. Who to hell is Burke Ever True to....swimming
That's exactly what you have to do to send a message to the bums at the top running this Football Program!
 
People keep talking about excellence. I think an finance campaign that does not address this football abortion is not getting mu funds. I agree with what Purdue is doing in trying to reduce student costs while providing a great education but if they are not going to try to be at least competitive I am not going to support it. Will be the first time in 20 years we do not have season tickets, and will not be members of the John Purdue club or Presidents council. Who to hell is Burke Ever True to....swimming
I'm Right there with you - 20+ year season ticket holder plus JPC plus Presidents Council.
This year: nada until they make a move to show me they care about something other than my checks.
 
We ran Hope out town and he was 5-7 his first year. DH has 6 wins in 3 years! I bet he's the highest paid coach per win? 1 million per!

Actually more than a Mil per. He gets 2.3 mil/ yr so about 1.15 so basically 150k more than a mil. I'd say coach hat is worth 150k a year.
 
I don't think if you brought in Nick Saban he could turn this mess around in less than 2 years. That's how bad it is. So by keeping Hazell another year means we're that much further away from turning this around. Disappointing is an understatement.
 
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I don't think if you brought in Nick Saban he could turn this mess around in less than 2 years. That's how bad it is. So by keeping Hazell another year means we're that much further away from turning this around. Disappointing is an understatement.

This is what pisses me off the most. This is not a Jim Harbaugh arrives and we're suddenly great again. It's going to take some time. It's also not uncommon for a coach to have to wait until after their first year to really get the staff they want in place (by the time a head coach is hired and in place, assistants are already into the next year with their job).

Putting in good coaches, good systems, etc. - you could see 3-4-5 wins depending on the schedule (I think with really solid coaches and good systems, we could have 4-5 wins this season). But that's in a great situation.

So you're really looking at at least 2 years for things to really get into place. So if Hazell returns, you're basically looking at throwing away a year.

Also, next year would be a great year to do some house cleaning.

1. There's a good chance we'll be equally bad next year. We lose some of our better players at some key positions. So you're really able to push some younger players, there's low expectations, etc.

2. This year's recruiting class is really small. If you have a coaching turnover, there isn't too much to worry about.

3. The following year will be a full size class. This gives a new coach a solid year to recruit. If you keep Hazell, you will have another crappy recruiting class - this time twice as big.
 
This is what pisses me off the most. This is not a Jim Harbaugh arrives and we're suddenly great again. It's going to take some time. It's also not uncommon for a coach to have to wait until after their first year to really get the staff they want in place (by the time a head coach is hired and in place, assistants are already into the next year with their job).

Putting in good coaches, good systems, etc. - you could see 3-4-5 wins depending on the schedule (I think with really solid coaches and good systems, we could have 4-5 wins this season). But that's in a great situation.

So you're really looking at at least 2 years for things to really get into place. So if Hazell returns, you're basically looking at throwing away a year.

Also, next year would be a great year to do some house cleaning.

1. There's a good chance we'll be equally bad next year. We lose some of our better players at some key positions. So you're really able to push some younger players, there's low expectations, etc.

2. This year's recruiting class is really small. If you have a coaching turnover, there isn't too much to worry about.

3. The following year will be a full size class. This gives a new coach a solid year to recruit. If you keep Hazell, you will have another crappy recruiting class - this time twice as big.


the recruiting angle of this mess cannot be underestimated. As this post said, recruiting this year will suck b/c there has been a terrible product on the field for 3 years and kids rightly assume that Hazell likely wont be here all 4 yrs they play. If you bring him back for 1 more year, God forbid 2, you continuing that cycle for multiple years. You start lining up back to back to back bad recruiting classes it would take 2 or 3 years from the time of firing at least until Purdue fields another truly competitive team in the Big 10, that would be 4 or 5 years from now, which is a truly depressing thought. I know there are financial consequences to doing it, but its time to cut the chord now and hope a new coach can salvage this some how. Heck it cant get worse can it? A new coach can at least maybe bring in a few good recruits.
 
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