Doyel nailed it
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Perhaps Doyle's mocking and humiliating article will be the straw that breaks the camel's back in West Lafayette.
Best article I've read about Purdue football in probably 10 years
Why isn't someone at GBI or the J&C man enough to tell it like it is in that fashion?
This is a good article
Someone on here made a very good point yesterday. Purdue did open up their pocketbook for a coach. They just screwed up the hire.
It sucks that is the case and it is tough we have the guarantee. But I guess I would say "we are playing in the big leagues - so we need to deal with it"
Someone on here made a very good point yesterday. Purdue did open up their pocketbook for a coach. They just screwed up the hire.
It sucks that is the case and it is tough we have the guarantee. But I guess I would say "we are playing in the big leagues - so we need to deal with it"
If that article doesn't cause the PU athletic department to take action, or make a statement, nothing will. What D1 caliber player would want to play for Purdue?
That's the problem right now. We have very few D1 players. Maybe a half dozen at the most.
It's not just the head coach. It's the staff, facilities, etc. We are paying the price for years of underinvesting in all of these areas.
but, hey, we got a nice pool and golf course, and all of 7 people in the world care! TIC
I toured IUs new facilities 5 years ago and knew right then we were in trouble.
At least we have great softball and baseball teams, right?
It won't...which is pretty much the point of his article...nobody there genuinely cares, or has.
This article is dead on.
At 45, I'm starting to finally realize, maybe, that the athletic dept and university wants to win less than I do.
Perhaps I was naive, believing we would always be committed to excellence and striving to compete for championships, that the admin would do whatever is required to succeed and allow Purdue alumni and fans to have pride in their program.
Now, we're embarrassed of them.
At 45, I'm starting to finally realize, maybe, that the athletic dept and university wants to win less than I do.
Perhaps I was naive, believing we would always be committed to excellence and striving to compete for championships, that the admin would do whatever is required to succeed and allow Purdue alumni and fans to have pride in their program.
Now, we're embarrassed of them.
I swear. Hazell was hired to win championships. It hasn't worked out. Shit happens. Like in my business when things don't work out - you figure out a way out, then you make a better decision. They believed in him and wanted to make sure they gave him enough time. I can understand. Doesn't mean I don't care. I wanted Purdue to win a shitpile of games this year. Doesn't mean that because I supported MB and Hazell that I don't care. Good grief.
Not going to read it. He has no more insight on Purdue than any random person. We have been very bad under Hazell to date. A 5 year old can tell you that. To claim that they don't care is lazy journalism imo. Anyone associated with the athletic department would rather be good than bad. The unfortunate reality is that they can do nothing right now to move towards that.
One more point here for those that just want to show Hazell the door as soon as possible. What if the right coach for Purdue isn't out there this off season and we end up with an unproven coach who can't win at Purdue? We will be signing up for another 4-5 years of the same.
One more point here for those that just want to show Hazell the door as soon as possible. What if the right coach for Purdue isn't out there this off season and we end up with an unproven coach who can't win at Purdue? We will be signing up for another 4-5 years of the same.
I do agree with this. It clearly didn't work out. The thing that grinds on me is the contract he was given. We must hire the right coach this time and it isn't going to be Miles, Kiffin, Briles or even Fleck. None of those are going to be interested in our position. The first 3 are a fantasy and Fleck is going to have better offers.
Every coach is hired with the noble notion of winning championships...that is not the issue...the issue is that he was totally not capable of it, is not capable of it and nobody recognized that and everyone involved continues to ignore that.
"It hasn't worked out" may very well be the greatest understatement ever made in this forum in any thread...and, $hit happens...happened...and will happen each and every day that Hazell continues to pretend that he has even the vaguest clue what he is doing as the HC at Purdue.
Enough time? Only at Purdue could you need enough time to validate that you are the worst coach in its history, if not the worst coach in conference history, so as to deem it sufficiently enough time. It was evident in the first year...and second year...and third year...and now the fourth year, that the guy was a horrible mistake...it is not a matter of not having gotten enough time.
It's not just the head coach. We are just now building a facility that should have been built 10 years ago, that would have helped both Haze and Hope recruit so we don't have the mess of a roster we have now, not to mention spending on a better staff that would have helped recruiting also. Instead the University siphoned millions out of the AD EVERY YEAR that could have been used to pay better recruiters.
As bad as Haze is, he's the symptom, not the disease.
You can't buy your way out of every mistake. Some are too expensive and you have to live with it. That SHOULD be a lesson in to how to handle the next few months. Hopefully Bobinski understands it because most fans sure don't.
Purdue has always been reactive opposed to proactive, and that is never going to change. Even what is being built, besides being late, it pales in comparison to what others have or are planning/building.
While they certainly were not done any favors by the AD, as well as the leadership at Purdue, both Hope and Hazell did absolutely nothing of their own either in that neither were capable...so while it is more than just them for sure as you suggest...it indeed has a lot to do with both of them also, especially Hazell...compared to Hazell, Hope is a virtual Vince Lombardi.
First, Purdue absolutely could, and should, have bought themselves out of this mistake...as it was a mistake that cost far more in not having bought their way out of it.
Money should not have been an issue...and while it was, it had more to do with allowing Burke to remain as AD long after he should have been removed or reassigned, never mind his having compounded his mistake of hiring Hazell in the first place by offering the single worst contract ever.
Where's your information come from about the university siphoned money from the AD?
You're making the assumption that if we had bought our way out of it earlier, they would've corrected things. I, for one, am glad that Burke won't be involved in the next major decision in the football program whatever/whenever that may be. If that meant we had to wait until he retired to do anything, so be it. The only thing worse would be for him to make another mistake that costs us 4 or more seasons on the way out the door.
Keeping Hazell til the end of the season won't save us a dime versus firing him now.
It's public knowledge, was in the J&C a few years ago. Really bad under Cordova, she used it to build some student life center on campus that has little to do with athletics.
Daniels has reduced it quite a bit since he took over, but the damage was done.
Ever since the Big Ten Network became profitable I believe the university has been taking millions each year. I think it was Cordova who set it up to fund pet projects that probably otherwise would never have been funded. Here's an article about the CSEL that describes one of the commitments covered.
http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/general/2012/120427CordovaCSEL.html
"The gift, from an anonymous donor, will be used as a one-to-one match to generate a total of $20 million to construct and support the $30 million Center for Student Excellence and Leadership. This match also will provide an incentive to invest an additional $8 million in deferred gifts toward an endowment to support the facility's long-term maintenance and operating costs.
Purdue Intercollegiate Athletics also is a key partner in this project, contributing $12 million over six years through Big Ten Network revenue toward the facility's total cost. Athletics director Morgan Burke said the new center would be an asset in recruiting students and student-athletes to Purdue because it will be a key element in the campus area dedicated to student life."
I believe I have read quotes since Mitch Daniels became president that once these commitments are fulfilled,the athletic department will get to keep all of this but that was before these new TV contracts were finalized. Since that I remember reading rumblings about wanting to make some sort of agreement with other Big Ten schools that some of these revenues would start being used on the academic side. We'll see.
Incidentally, this is why I have always had an issue with the Nancy Cross email during the Painter/Missouri fiasco that essentially called out JPC members for being cheap and not donating enough for them to afford all the things fans wanted them to do. Meanwhile, they were shipping out millions of revenue to fund these sorts of projects (probably through no fault of Burke's to be honest) while the schools they were competing with were bringing in student fees to support athletics in many instances. They were fine to ask more and more of fans to try to make up that revenue gap with competing schools but until Painter took them to task, they never had to go back to the university and negotiate with them to start being able to keep more of the money that the athletic department earned to begin with.
You don't know that. I would go to a game this year if Hazell was gone, and I guarantee others feel the same way.
Dang why didn't you say so? I think that extra $80 of revenue convinced me.
Don't disagree at all...the real issue is that there was no need to wait until he retired...that, actually, it was is so Purdue-esque about the whole thing...a guy that failed at his actual job was allowed to serve his contract out on his own terms, ironically for the very reason that Doyel alludes to in his article...zero accountability, and nobody at Purdue outside of the athletic department remotely cared/cares.
Burke is responsible for driving the program into the ground...and the only repercussion of that was the insane penalty of allowing Hazell to remain the HC long after he should have just so as to allow Burke to serve his contract out how he wished...THAT pretty much sums up Purdue athletics nicely.
Why didn't you quote my whole response? Because you know there are lots of others with the same mindset.
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