Does B12 hold together or get picked apart.
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I think it will stay a conference, but will be considered a lesser conference with no guarantee into the CFB playoffs.
It's done. It will dissolve into other majors and a couple will be relegated to Conference USA or the American.
Look it it was up to me they’d still be filming new seasons of cheers .. but if Sam and woody couldn’t stay past their time, you guys probably can’t either .. pretty soon you guys will have a rubber hand and you’ll be hoping that an Amish bowler is your meal ticketWhat say Boilers
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Tough to say but if it does remain as a conference, it will be a lesser one. There are 2 big money making conferences right now - the B1G and the SEC - and look for those two to start gobbling up the more desirable CF teams.
Thanks....he may have missed the Berlin Wall coming down in 1989, but he really knows obscure movies.
Woody harrelson was on cheers (the big 12 before texas bolted).. years later he was in kingpin and his character is a lot like where the big 12 is headed. Munsoned in the middle of nowhere
Oh no no no.. I understand American foreign policy very well. I never denied the existence of the Cold War. I said two things.. the Cold War has been rebranded by the current left (see russiagate) because “the Russians” (insert any rival you use to propagandize jingoistic types) is powerful propaganda…
we weren’t doing regime change because of the Russians. We were doing it to Jack resources at the behest of corporations. This is not unique to us .. this is a game as old as time.
check out general smedley butlers book war is a racket. See shock doctrine, see also manufacturing consent.
were the Russians a worthy competitor of the us in terms of fighting over control, power and resources.. sure. But that doesn’t mean that that’s what every installed regime was about
Is there really anything left worth picking? That was always the biggest issue with the Big 12, really top heavy.
Usually Penn State, Michigan (kind of), Iowa, Wisconsin
And then from a financial impact you can add Nebraska to the list.
tOSU has been on a roll lately, but saying it's just them is basically saying the SEC is just Alabama.
What say Boilers
Who really wants what's left? Maybe the Big East would want the Kansas basketball school. But I surely think the B1G isn't going to panic and pick the bones of the Big 12 just because the SEC expanded. There is nothing left there that is worth it. It has to be a program that makes it worth while to split the BTN pie into finer pieces. I see no one in Big 12 that would justify that.
Not for us. But I think the remaining programs form a better conference still than say, the MAC. Like someone else said, if they could go get Cincinnati, BYU, and a couple of other decent programs, they still have a place above other conferences aside from the new Power 4. Might not guarantee them a spot in the playoffs but it should still be better tv contracts than AAC or MAC.
Just a few years ago, the B12 made UC, USF, Memphis, UH and UCF go through a very public audition for a possible invitation to join. When it concluded, Bowlsby said “Thanks, we’re not expanding.” I doubt any of the AAC AD’s and Presidents have forgotten that little charade, and they might be more interested in trying to coax a few schools (TCU, OSU, WVU, ISU, KU, KSU) to continue the exodus by joining them, rather than accepting an invitation from a diminished B12.
Good point and you don't see anyone talking partnerships with the remaining Big 12 so I think that is also a good indication of their standing now.
Regardless of whether the B12 accepts new members or is raided by others, Bob Bowlsby is a dead man walking. UT and OU thought so much of him that they went around him to the SEC without so much as a heads up, and any new members wouldn’t join if he was tapped as the go-forward commissioner. None of the AAC schools will forget how he made them sing and dance, only to callously brush them aside. The tables turned on him quickly.
