Desperation move by Burke

[BoilerStutz]

Burke is in a mell of a hess. He can't fire his dull head coach because the buyout is too large (this is a conversation for another day).

So he cans BOTH of his coordinators and keeps the dull guy at the top making over $2 mill. By the way, the dull guy and Burke hired the two coordinators they just canned. Makes you wonder what value the dull head coach adds to merit his big salary.

So now you go look for stellar coordinators who:

• will work for a highly unsuccessful head coach
• will work for a head coach who most likely can only be retained for one more year
• recognize they have all of one year to build a coaching system and turn the program completely around
• will come to a program with a strong tradition of losing
• will come to an athletic department led by a former swimmer who has grossly underinvested in the major revenue sports

Sounds attractive, doesn't it? So we either get highly inexperienced coordinators who say "what the hell?" and take the job. Or we attract retreads like the guys who were just fired.

There is a third option. Hazell may have been told that he will be around for three more years, and hence coordinator candidates will know that they actually have three years to make a difference.

Burke is an arrogant idiot for allowing Purdue football to become this big of a mess.

 

[Cevol03]

Agree completely. The real responsibility lies with Hazell and it doesn't sound like he is willing to own up to that.

When has a coach ever fired both coordinators in the same season and end up being successful? Has this ever happened in the history of college football?

 

[Purdue85]

Burke is in a mell of a hess. He can't fire his dull head coach because the buyout is too large (this is a conversation for another day).

So he cans BOTH of his coordinators and keeps the dull guy at the top making over $2 mill. By the way, the dull guy and Burke hired the two coordinators they just canned. Makes you wonder what value the dull head coach adds to merit his big salary.

So now you go look for stellar coordinators who:

• will work for a highly unsuccessful head coach
• will work for a head coach who most likely can only be retained for one more year
• recognize they have all of one year to build a coaching system and turn the program completely around
• will come to a program with a strong tradition of losing
• will come to an athletic department led by a former swimmer who has grossly underinvested in the major revenue sports

Sounds attractive, doesn't it? So we either get highly inexperienced coordinators who say "what the hell?" and take the job. Or we attract retreads like the guys who were just fired.

There is a third option. Hazell may have been told that he will be around for three more years, and hence coordinator candidates will know that they actually have three years to make a difference.

Burke is an arrogant idiot for allowing Purdue football to become this big of a mess.

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WTH??

"Burke" fired the coordinators?

Is there a link, or is this the latest Burke bitchfest?

 

[pboiler18]

*****

WTH??

"Burke" fired the coordinators?

Is there a link, or is this the latest Burke bitchfest?

It's the latest Burke bitchfest.

Canning the coordinators had to be done. Doing it the day after the season was probably the best time to do it as well.

Yes, Hazell should be fired but we are cheap. I don't want Hazell fired because I don't want Burke making another crappy hire!

Also, we'll have plenty of money to attract good coordinators. Maybe not top notch but I'll bet we pay $750k and make a decent hire at OC. I'd assume Freeman takes over at DC

 

[loftygoal]

It's the latest Burke bitchfest.

Canning the coordinators had to be done. Doing it the day after the season was probably the best time to do it as well.

Yes, Hazell should be fired but we are cheap. I don't want Hazell fired because I don't want Burke making another crappy hire!

Also, we'll have plenty of money to attract good coordinators. Maybe not top notch but I'll bet we pay $750k and make a decent hire at OC. I'd assume Freeman takes over at DC

Any chance that they don't hire new coordinators and just promote from within? That would really be the cheap way out. Just throw in the towel until they can afford to get rid of Haz.

 

[Summy1]

I think they will hire from within. Not sure why they waited till now though? They could have made this change earlier. Hazell is too stubborn.

 

[loftygoal]

I think they will hire from within. Not sure why they waited till now though? They could have made this change earlier. Hazell is too stubborn.

It makes you wonder when they made the decision. Was it made after the IU game? Unfortunately, this is the way we do things. We have no plan, like VA Tech that as soon as the season ends names their new HC. Instead, now let the speculation begin regarding our new move. If we do replace one of the positions, I'd bet it will be the OC. If they can get a quality guy then he'll be in the cat bird seat to be named interim HC when Haz is canned after next season.

 

[Foolmeoncefan]

Burke is in a mell of a hess. He can't fire his dull head coach because the buyout is too large (this is a conversation for another day).

So he cans BOTH of his coordinators and keeps the dull guy at the top making over $2 mill. By the way, the dull guy and Burke hired the two coordinators they just canned. Makes you wonder what value the dull head coach adds to merit his big salary.

So now you go look for stellar coordinators who:

• will work for a highly unsuccessful head coach
• will work for a head coach who most likely can only be retained for one more year
• recognize they have all of one year to build a coaching system and turn the program completely around
• will come to a program with a strong tradition of losing
• will come to an athletic department led by a former swimmer who has grossly underinvested in the major revenue sports

Sounds attractive, doesn't it? So we either get highly inexperienced coordinators who say "what the hell?" and take the job. Or we attract retreads like the guys who were just fired.

There is a third option. Hazell may have been told that he will be around for three more years, and hence coordinator candidates will know that they actually have three years to make a difference.

Burke is an arrogant idiot for allowing Purdue football to become this big of a mess.

Well Burke certainly has outdone himself. He golf coursed it. He prioritizes softball and diving facilities. But not football, the money maker. We have an unfinished stadium with an absolutely putrid big screen that you basically need binos to see from the other side and possibly the single ugliest end zone complexion of all time, a major recruiting destroyer. I am happy about the football complex idea. Too little too late however.

So here is the thing about Burke. I am convinced he wants Purdue to win, but he absolutely has no idea what that entails. He is clearly one of those AD's that treats football as just one of those other sports teams at Purdue. He thinks football as an equal to the track team. Not a wise decision considering football is the main event, biggest advertising tool, and biggest money maker potential of all sports. Consequently Purdue is last in the big ten even to Northwestern (a small private college) in sports revenue. Something that is almost unthinkable that even IU manages their sports revenue better. He fired mustache who had a 6-6 team with much worse athletes overall. And yet those same athletes managed to go from 6-6 to winning just 2 big ten games in 3 years, but dropped off considerably from the 6-6 season to Hazell's first year. A signal to me that Hazell may not be good at evaluating who his best athletes are and how to use them as evidenced by the turnover at QB. Zero wins against IU. IU managed to put up near 700 yards on Purdue. It would take most teams 3 football games to put up those kind of numbers. IU did it to Purdue in just 1 game, of which Hazell now finds himself 0-3 against IU. That is a sign that the program revitalization has failed miserably. At this point I would be against firing Hazell because Burke cannot be trusted to make the next football hire based on the info we have to date and results on the field thus far. Hazell was hired to put a high octane offense on the field that passes the ball. This has definitely not happened. To accomplish that Shoop is the best option? I don't think so. Clearly not a lot of thought was put into Shoop being hired. So what worries me most of all now that both the defensive coordinator and offensive coordinator were both fired is that does this mean Purdue is now at square 1 again? 6 million dollars later we have no gains? No improvement? We have a reset at the coordinators. I want Hazell to succeed, but this is not a good sign. He better think long and hard who he hires to replace these people, because if there isn't some major result from these new coordinators in a year a clean slate firing from the AD down to the football staff will be hard to avoid.

 

[AZboiler]

Well Burke certainly has outdone himself. He golf coursed it. He prioritizes softball and diving facilities. But not football, the money maker. We have an unfinished stadium with an absolutely putrid big screen that you basically need binos to see from the other side and possibly the single ugliest end zone complexion of all time, a major recruiting destroyer. I am happy about the football complex idea. Too little too late however.

So here is the thing about Burke. I am convinced he wants Purdue to win, but he absolutely has no idea what that entails. He is clearly one of those AD's that treats football as just one of those other sports teams at Purdue. He thinks football as an equal to the track team. Not a wise decision considering football is the main event, biggest advertising tool, and biggest money maker potential of all sports. Consequently Purdue is last in the big ten even to Northwestern (a small private college) in sports revenue. Something that is almost unthinkable that even IU manages their sports revenue better. He fired mustache who had a 6-6 team with much worse athletes overall. And yet those same athletes managed to go from 6-6 to winning just 2 big ten games in 3 years, but dropped off considerably from the 6-6 season to Hazell's first year. A signal to me that Hazell may not be good at evaluating who his best athletes are and how to use them as evidenced by the turnover at QB. Zero wins against IU. IU managed to put up near 700 yards on Purdue. It would take most teams 3 football games to put up those kind of numbers. IU did it to Purdue in just 1 game, of which Hazell now finds himself 0-3 against IU. That is a sign that the program revitalization has failed miserably. At this point I would be against firing Hazell because Burke cannot be trusted to make the next football hire based on the info we have to date and results on the field thus far. Hazell was hired to put a high octane offense on the field that passes the ball. This has definitely not happened. To accomplish that Shoop is the best option? I don't think so. Clearly not a lot of thought was put into Shoop being hired. So what worries me most of all now that both the defensive coordinator and offensive coordinator were both fired is that does this mean Purdue is now at square 1 again? 6 million dollars later we have no gains? No improvement? We have a reset at the coordinators. I want Hazell to succeed, but this is not a good sign. He better think long and hard who he hires to replace these people, because if there isn't some major result from these new coordinators in a year a clean slate firing from the AD down to the football staff will be hard to avoid.

Don't forget the Soccer complex…. funny how Purdue fields only a women's soccer team, but gets new soccer and softball.