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Daniel Jacobsen update from TOS

Thanks for the article. Could have been far more informative. Like how much does he actually weigh NOW? Is there really zero chance for him to play this season or is that Brantley's gut at this point? Good news is that this is exactly what we wanted as the silver lining to his injury. Bulk up....
 
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Thanks for the article. Could have been far more informative. Like how much does he actually weigh NOW? Is there really zero chance for him to play this season or is that Brantley's gut at this point? Good news is that this is exactly what we wanted as the silver lining to his injury. Bulk up....
I mean I'm not sure there's much point in trying to shoehorn him in at the end of the season. The value added doesn't equal the lost season IMO.

I don't know that I am at the he's a four year starter point some folks here are, but he's clearly a talented player and he and the team are better served with an unfortunate but useful redshirt season to bulk up and get stronger and come in next season more able to deal with the rigors of the position then to try to get him minutes on the fly end of season and blow the redshirt
 
Thanks for the article. Could have been far more informative. Like how much does he actually weigh NOW? Is there really zero chance for him to play this season or is that Brantley's gut at this point? Good news is that this is exactly what we wanted as the silver lining to his injury. Bulk up....
I think it would take some significant and unfortunate injuries to have a Daniel Jacobsen coming off injury to be better than what Purdue could throw out there in the postseason. And if that's the case, I'm still not sure I'd blow his redshirt in hopes that he can hold his own in the tournament.
 
I mean I'm not sure there's much point in trying to shoehorn him in at the end of the season. The value added doesn't equal the lost season IMO.

Lost season?? I doubt he is here 4 more years. Thus, he can play this year, which currently there is absolutely NO sign of, then sure, not losing anything.

Hopefully, next year he is so flat out amazing, it's his last year & we end it as NC.
 
Lost season?? I doubt he is here 4 more years. Thus, he can play this year, which currently there is absolutely NO sign of, then sure, not losing anything.

Hopefully, next year he is so flat out amazing, it's his last year & we end it as NC.
I guess I'll need to see a little more before I declare him a surefire NBA first round pick.
 
I guess I'll need to see a little more before I declare him a surefire NBA first round pick.
Yeah now that kids can get paid, most of those 1st/2nd round borderline guys like Carsen, TJD, etc, will stay for the guaranteed NIL money.

Having said all that: if CMP thinks he’s so good right now that he can help be the difference in getting us to another FF, I’m good with that too. But that seems about as likely as IU getting Brad…
 
I mean I'm not sure there's much point in trying to shoehorn him in at the end of the season. The value added doesn't equal the lost season IMO.

I don't know that I am at the he's a four year starter point some folks here are, but he's clearly a talented player and he and the team are better served with an unfortunate but useful redshirt season to bulk up and get stronger and come in next season more able to deal with the rigors of the position then to try to get him minutes on the fly end of season and blow the redshirt
Ill trust painter on this one.
 
Ill trust painter on this one.
I'm gonna guess Painter isn't going to want rush him back for a couple of games and blow an entire redshirt, but that's the whole point of a message board, fans discussing stuff.

Just because someone says this is what I think will or won't happen has nothing to do with whether or not they "trust Painter" or think they are smarter than Painter.
 
I'm gonna guess Painter isn't going to want rush him back for a couple of games and blow an entire redshirt, but that's the whole point of a message board, fans discussing stuff.

Just because someone says this is what I think will or won't happen has nothing to do with whether or not they "trust Painter" or think they are smarter than Painter.
Even Painter has admitted he’s been wrong on the “to redshirt or not to redshirt” dilemma before.
 
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Even Painter has admitted he’s been wrong on the “to redshirt or not to redshirt” dilemma before.
Painter admits he's wrong and changes a lot more than the folks who idolize him and do the whole Trust in Painter silliness admit.

He certainly didn't start the season with the best lineup. But to his credit, he got there, because he does change and does admit mistakes.

At any rate,. nothing anyone on here says 95 percent of the time is even a challenge to Painter or questioning him, it's just fans talking about what they think about games or the season.
 
Painter admits he's wrong and changes a lot more than the folks who idolize him and do the whole Trust in Painter silliness admit.

He certainly didn't start the season with the best lineup. But to his credit, he got there, because he does change and does admit mistakes.

At any rate,. nothing anyone on here says 95 percent of the time is even a challenge to Painter or questioning him, it's just fans talking about what they think about games or the season.
That’s one of the things that makes him a great coach. He knows when to adjust/adapt and when to stay the course.
 
Painter also had a dilemma a few years back in March madness with an injury to a key player. It may have been Haas. He had another big man who was redshirting. He could have played him thus ending his red shirt year. He elected not to go that route. And he lost the game because we did not have an adequate player to cover the loss of the injured player.
 
Painter also had a dilemma a few years back in March madness with an injury to a key player. It may have been Haas. He had another big man who was redshirting. He could have played him thus ending his red shirt year. He elected not to go that route. And he lost the game because we did not have an adequate player to cover the loss of the injured player.
Wrong.
 
Painter also had a dilemma a few years back in March madness with an injury to a key player. It may have been Haas. He had another big man who was redshirting. He could have played him thus ending his red shirt year. He elected not to go that route. And he lost the game because we did not have an adequate player to cover the loss of the injured player.
lmao how do you come up with this stuff?
 
lmao how do you come up with this stuff?
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Painter also had a dilemma a few years back in March madness with an injury to a key player. It may have been Haas. He had another big man who was redshirting. He could have played him thus ending his red shirt year. He elected not to go that route. And he lost the game because we did not have an adequate player to cover the loss of the injured player.
Oh please elaborate on this story. Haas got hurt and Haarms played more. So what are you referring to?
 
Painter also had a dilemma a few years back in March madness with an injury to a key player. It may have been Haas. He had another big man who was redshirting. He could have played him thus ending his red shirt year. He elected not to go that route. And he lost the game because we did not have an adequate player to cover the loss of the injured player.
No, I think we lost because Painter made Haarms come over to his house and change light bulbs, and then Coach’s pet unicorn gored Haarms in the leg.
 
Painter also had a dilemma a few years back in March madness with an injury to a key player. It may have been Haas. He had another big man who was redshirting. He could have played him thus ending his red shirt year. He elected not to go that route. And he lost the game because we did not have an adequate player to cover the loss of the injured player.
Your cause and effect reasoning is wrong.

Just because Painter could of un red shirted a player, doesnt mean the player would have benefited from playing or was even read to play. There is still probably a better than 50% chance we lose the game and hurt a players development.

Now, Painter has proven he knows how to develop big men, has put several into the NBA that came in as non top 40 guys, and not just Eddy.

So he un red shirts the guy, whom you cant remember, the player transfers because he is upset, doesnt feel he was properly developed, Painter loses his reputation for big men, Eddy never decides to come to Purdue and we never make the final 4.

See, I know how to make up stuff too.

In the end, Jacobsen needs to add weight and muscle to compete in the big ten, my guess was the medical redshirt might end up being a blessing.
 
Several things that weigh into this. Coming in, some thought that DJ would likely not be here 4 yrs. Basically, it appeared that he would be starting on this team as a Fr and with his size and skill, could possibly leave early. I've read talk of giving players 5 yrs of eligibility now as well. I know absolutely nothing about that, just been mentioned on this board. There are circumstances that are probably unknown to us, that could justify him playing this yr, if cleared, but obviously the coaches should have insight on those things and make the proper decision.
 
When he’s been asked about the chances of DJ playing yet this season, CMP has stated from the time of injury that he was out for this season, every single time. I haven’t heard any interview of him, from which he has deviated from that. I wouldn’t look for him playing this year.
 
Painter admits he's wrong and changes a lot more than the folks who idolize him and do the whole Trust in Painter silliness admit.

He certainly didn't start the season with the best lineup. But to his credit, he got there, because he does change and does admit mistakes.

At any rate,. nothing anyone on here says 95 percent of the time is even a challenge to Painter or questioning him, it's just fans talking about what they think about games or the season.
His ability to adapt and win is why many people trust painter. Disagree its a trait that most dont appreciate or recognize about the future hof coach. Many of his best players and teams were very different.
 
Painter also had a dilemma a few years back in March madness with an injury to a key player. It may have been Haas. He had another big man who was redshirting. He could have played him thus ending his red shirt year. He elected not to go that route. And he lost the game because we did not have an adequate player to cover the loss of the injured player.
has to be someone else you're thinking of. Haas went down against Cal State Fullerton in round 1, Haarms started the next game against Butler and Purdue won. 3rd round Purdue lost to Tx Tech - Haarms started that game as well.

as for Jacobsen, from the comments in the article, it sounds like he's not ready at all to play again this year.
 
He’s probably confused about Haarms coming mid season and not playing at all.
I’m not confused. And I love the way you guys just say wrong without doing any research! You guys can eat your your shoes.

Haarms had some issues and would have lost one year of eligibility if he had gone to that prep school. So he entered Purdue mid season. By NCAA rules, Haarms could have played that second semester at Purdue. But Painter decided for him to red shirt that semester . I repeat, Haarms could have played! There were no ncaa rules preventing him from playing after he enrolled at Purdue. But Painter didn’t feel he was ready. So he redshirted him.

In the tourney, a player was injured. Painter could have activated and played Haarms. But in doing so, Haarms would have lost his red shirt year! But there were no ncaa rules preventing painter from playing Haarms. If you took the time to look in the archives of this forum you will see it was discussed as a possibility.

If it did happen Haarms would have lost a year of eligibility and byu would have been upset.

A player was injured. Painter refused to activate Haarms and Purdue lost. those are all facts!

I laugh at you people who just say wrong and don’t even read your own previous posts. You have a memory of a walnut eaten by a chipmunk.

The facts remain. Haarms could have played that second semester when he first arrived. He was actually practicing with the team. He knew the plays. But Painter decided to keep his 4 years of eligibility in tack.

The same will be true for Jacobson. painter could bring him back and play him in the tourney. But he won’t.
 
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I’m not confused. And I love the way you guys just say wrong without doing any research! You guys can eat your your shoes.

Haarms had some issues and would have lost one year of eligibility if he had gone to that prep school. So he entered Purdue mid season. By NCAA rules, Haarms could have played that second semester at Purdue. But Painter decided for him to red shirt that semester . I repeat, Haarms could have played! There were no ncaa rules preventing him from playing after he enrolled at Purdue. But Painter didn’t feel he was ready. So he redshirted him.

In the tourney, Haas was injured. Painter could have activated and played Haarms. But in doing so, Haarms would have lost his red shirt year! But there were no ncaa rules preventing painter from playing Haarms. If you took the time to look in the archives of this forum you will see it was discussed as a possibility.

If it did happen Haarms would have lost a year of eligibility and byu would have been upset.

Haas was injured. Painter refused to activate Haarms and Purdue lost those are all facts!

I laugh at you people who just say wrong and don’t even read your own previous posts. You have a memory of a walnut eaten by a chipmunk
If you are going to be wrong, you might as well double down on being wrong. Haarms redshirt year was 2016-17, which was Haas' Jr year. Haas was hurt in 2017-18, his senior year and Haarms played.
 
I’m not confused. And I love the way you guys just say wrong without doing any research! You guys can eat your your shoes.

Haarms had some issues and would have lost one year of eligibility if he had gone to that prep school. So he entered Purdue mid season. By NCAA rules, Haarms could have played that second semester at Purdue. But Painter decided for him to red shirt that semester . I repeat, Haarms could have played! There were no ncaa rules preventing him from playing after he enrolled at Purdue. But Painter didn’t feel he was ready. So he redshirted him.

In the tourney, Haas was injured. Painter could have activated and played Haarms. But in doing so, Haarms would have lost his red shirt year! But there were no ncaa rules preventing painter from playing Haarms. If you took the time to look in the archives of this forum you will see it was discussed as a possibility.

If it did happen Haarms would have lost a year of eligibility and byu would have been upset.

Haas was injured. Painter refused to activate Haarms and Purdue lost those are all facts!

I laugh at you people who just say wrong and don’t even read your own previous posts. You have a memory of a walnut eaten by a chipmunk
Matt Haarms played 21 minutes in the game Haas got hurt so yeah, you’re confused.
 
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I’m not confused. And I love the way you guys just say wrong without doing any research! You guys can eat your your shoes.

Haarms had some issues and would have lost one year of eligibility if he had gone to that prep school. So he entered Purdue mid season. By NCAA rules, Haarms could have played that second semester at Purdue. But Painter decided for him to red shirt that semester . I repeat, Haarms could have played! There were no ncaa rules preventing him from playing after he enrolled at Purdue. But Painter didn’t feel he was ready. So he redshirted him.

In the tourney, Haas was injured. Painter could have activated and played Haarms. But in doing so, Haarms would have lost his red shirt year! But there were no ncaa rules preventing painter from playing Haarms. If you took the time to look in the archives of this forum you will see it was discussed as a possibility.

If it did happen Haarms would have lost a year of eligibility and byu would have been upset.

Haas was injured. Painter refused to activate Haarms and Purdue lost those are all facts!

I laugh at you people who just say wrong and don’t even read your own previous posts. You have a memory of a walnut eaten by a chipmunk
Even tho you’re a troll.
You need to do your own research.

Purdue lost to KU in 2016-2017 in S16. Haas played that game. Haarms did not because he…redshirted.

Haas was injured in the 2017-2018 NCAAT with a hook and hold that was later implemented because of his injury. Haarms played the next two games where Purdue lost in the S16 to Ttech, he also played in 35 other games that year. He, in fact, did not RS that year.
 
His ability to adapt and win is why many people trust painter. Disagree its a trait that most dont appreciate or recognize about the future hof coach. Many of his best players and teams were very different.
Sorry, I don't do blind hero worship. I can respect someone or even think they are great and recognize they aren't so perfect that I replace God with Painter.

I've repeatedly said that after reaching the championship game, Painter can die and be propped up Weekend at Bernie's style on the bench as head coach and I'd be ok with it for a couple of seasons because he's earned it with that result.

But yeah every once in awhile, he misses stuff, which is irrelevant to this conversation because literally nothing we have talked about in this thread has anything to do with whether or not Painter is anything. It was about whether or not we think it makes sense for Jacobsen to be rushed back for a couple of games. Something Painter hasn't even talked about and that isn't even a thing yet, it's a friggin hypothetical.

I'm sorry but if we are going to short circuit every conversation about players or anything with yeah well I trust in Painter then what's the point of a message board?
 
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