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Which is still free speech............no matter how any of us feel about the content of that speech. The people at Columbia aren't sheltering terrorists or giving them millions of dollars like the government of Qatar. Are you seriously comparing the two? I realize it's just a reflex response but come on.
 
Which is still free speech............no matter how any of us feel about the content of that speech. The people at Columbia aren't sheltering terrorists or giving them millions of dollars like the government of Qatar. Are you seriously comparing the two? I realize it's just a reflex response but come on.
It just troubles me to see some of this free speech stuff. Maybe some of this free speech things need to be rained in. The Comey text is one.

And no Trump should not be gifted the plane.
 
It just troubles me to see some of this free speech stuff. Maybe some of this free speech things need to be rained in. The Comey text is one.

And no Trump should not be gifted the plane.
Good for you on the plane.

I don't like the pro Hamas/anti Israel crap either. But the solution isn't curbing free speech. The president.......dem or pub.......doesn't get to decide what can be said. Full stop.
 
Which is still free speech............no matter how any of us feel about the content of that speech. The people at Columbia aren't sheltering terrorists or giving them millions of dollars like the government of Qatar. Are you seriously comparing the two? I realize it's just a reflex response but come on.
Actions have consquences.

Is it free speech to physically prevent a Jewish student from getting to class or walk through a certain "occupied" area of campus?
 
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I was waiting on this topic to come up but I knew that it wasn't going to be started by the Flavor Aiders.

You actually think a president of the United States should actually get in a plane gifted by a jive country like Qatar? This goes against all security concerns.

Obama bows in front of a Saudi Arabian king and Faux News and right wing radio loses their Jim Crow minds. Chump is gifted a plane and not much is said other than some ne'er do well thinks this going to save taxpayer's money.

If this ain't some type of a bribe then I don't know what is. There needs to be some kind of investigation on why all of out the blue someone from the Qatar royal family wants to give the president of the US a luxury plane.
@BB62 Do either of your guys know that Biden was the one that originally was looking at purchasing this plane? So Trump has it given to us and all of a sudden it's big bad Trump again.... Get all of your facts.
 
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You realize that the adults in our government, and there are a few left, will never allow a president to fly on this plane unless they can strip in down to its shell and inspect every square inch of it for safety and security right? Not to mention the retrofit of all the defense measures that have to be installed. The comm equipment. The security equipment. We would basically have to tear it apart and rebuild it.

Or maybe you think we should just trust that Qatar would give us a safe plane that was free of any surveillance devices. The same country that harbored and funded Hamas for decades and is now trump's latest best buddy.
All of that and it will still be cheaper than one of the planes we were supposed to buy from Boeing.
 
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The plane is stated to be retrofitted, costing at a minimum tens of millions of dollars, while he's in office.

And they have also flat-out stated that as soon as he's out of office the plane is to be transitioned to use for the Trump Presidential Library (of which, of course there is none). In other words, for Trump's personal use at the expense of the American taxpayer.

And all by a nation that has been a long, long, LONG time mega-sponsor of terrorism:

An Analysis of Qatari Connections to Illicit Terror Financing and the Resulting Foreign Policy Implications
LMAO... WRONG
 
Then you can be bothered—- there is an indication that will happen:

“lawyers for the White House counsel's office and the Department of Justice drafted an analysis for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth concluding that is legal for the Department of Defense to accept the aircraft as a gift and later turn it over to the Trump library.”

That means it’ll take three years to be retrofitted, and by then it won’t be used as an Air Force One, it’ll be for Trump’s personal use.
@BB62 @BNIBoiler Yes, it would go to the Trump library, when it's decommissioned. Much like the plane did for Regan. Was Regan out jet setting in the plane that went to his library? I'll give you a hint. NO
 
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@BB62 Do either of your guys know that Biden was the one that originally was looking at purchasing this plane? So Trump has it given to us and all of a sudden it's big bad Trump again.... Get all of your facts.
Uh, Jethro Mullins seems to be the source of this "fact." Nobody else can verify the claim, just a hill jack senator from Oklahoma.
 
We have to when the chicken little's cry the sky is falling all the time and it never happens.
Where's DOGE? Why are they OK spending so much on retrofitting this plane? The funds haven't been appropriated by anyone, so it's just more taxpayer cash for Trump's personal benefit. And you folds are whistling past the graveyard.
 
@BB62 @BNIBoiler Yes, it would go to the Trump library, when it's decommissioned. Much like the plane did for Regan. Was Regan out jet setting in the plane that went to his library? I'll give you a hint. NO
Wrong - the plan is to transfer the plane to the Trump library foundation, AKA the felon himself, no later than 01/01/29. Are you saying the plane is going to be decommissioned by that date, are you lying, or are you just willfully ignorant? I'll bet anything it's #3. What does random YouTube guy say?
 
Where's DOGE? Why are they OK spending so much on retrofitting this plane? The funds haven't been appropriated by anyone, so it's just more taxpayer cash for Trump's personal benefit. And you folds are whistling past the graveyard.
They need a backup Air Force One. This is cheaper than buying a new plane from Boeing and retrofitting it.
 
Wrong - the plan is to transfer the plane to the Trump library foundation, AKA the felon himself, no later than 01/01/29. Are you saying the plane is going to be decommissioned by that date, are you lying, or are you just willfully ignorant? I'll bet anything it's #3. What does random YouTube guy say?
Maybe you should watch and find out instead of making claims.
 
The burden of proof is not on me, but you. Find some corroboration, or this is just more made up RW "alternative facts."
Is it though? News places have reached out to the former Biden officials and they haven't commented. Seems odd since if it's not real, they would have said it was a lie immediately.
 
@BB62 Do either of your guys know that Biden was the one that originally was looking at purchasing this plane? So Trump has it given to us and all of a sudden it's big bad Trump again.... Get all of your facts.
Says Mark Wayne Mullin. That's it. All you got. Now you're posting it like it's a fact.

Even if what he says is true, which there are no facts to support, what were the terms? Was he getting it for free? What was it to be used for? Was he going to spend hundreds of billions to make it serviceable for a POTUS?
DID BIDEN BUY IT?

So you have one member of congress, a known trump ass kisser, who says Biden "had a conversation" about buying it.......and you think that makes everything just Jim Dandy? Complete equivalence. You are something.

Why don't YOU get some actual facts.
 
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All of that and it will still be cheaper than one of the planes we were supposed to buy from Boeing.
It should be. But we're still going to spend hundreds of millions, at a minimum, to upgrade a plane when there are two already being built? You know that's still happening right? How long will it take to upgrade it? Year or two? So trump can use it for a year? My my. Does Elon know about this?

You gonna run and hide rather than address the tiny issue that the plane comes from a government that has financially supported Hamas and harbored its leaders for years? Or that trump just signed a deal for a golf resort in Qatar in April valued at $3 billion?

Oh Hunter.
 
Was he getting it for free?
Nope
What was it to be used for?
Air Force One, same as what Trump wanted it for.
Was he going to spend hundreds of billions to make it serviceable for a POTUS?
100% yes
DID BIDEN BUY IT?
Nope, but I'm sure we will find out why.
So you have one member of congress, a known trump ass kisser, who says Biden "had a conversation" about buying it.......and you think that makes everything just Jim Dandy? Complete equivalence. You are something.
This means absolute zero coming from you. You're TDS is off the charts along with BNI.
Why don't YOU get some actual facts.
LMAO
 
It should be. But we're still going to spend hundreds of millions, at a minimum, to upgrade a plane when there are two already being built? You know that's still happening right? How long will it take to upgrade it? Year or two? So trump can use it for a year? My my. Does Elon know about this?

You gonna run and hide rather than address the tiny issue that the plane comes from a government that has financially supported Hamas and harbored its leaders for years? Or that trump just signed a deal for a golf resort in Qatar in April valued at $3 billion?

Oh Hunter.
OMFG, dude. We'd have to spend that same hundreds of millions on ANY plane. Doesn't matter where we get it from, so getting the plane for free is a good deal. The Air Force WANTS another plane as a backup. It was needed in their minds. When the other two planes finally get built, the two in use now will be retired.

I love how you call having a life running and hiding. I choose to not spend all of my time on here with people like yourself that keeps allowing themselves to be led by their nose from the media and continue to do so when they continue to get things wrong.
 
Alright MAGA. Make up your best defense of this one.
Why does one need to defend a gift to THIS COUNTRY? It's not a private jet for DJT, it's to be put in the USAF fleet of planes. As a US citizen, I'm all for it.

Hell, the Biden clan got more than that from Ukraine, China, and other nefarious players and you say nothing about that.
 
OMFG, dude. We'd have to spend that same hundreds of millions on ANY plane. Doesn't matter where we get it from, so getting the plane for free is a good deal. The Air Force WANTS another plane as a backup. It was needed in their minds. When the other two planes finally get built, the two in use now will be retired.

I love how you call having a life running and hiding. I choose to not spend all of my time on here with people like yourself that keeps allowing themselves to be led by their nose from the media and continue to do so when they continue to get things wrong.
No, no we don't. We have one that works fine, right now. It will be just fine until Boeing finishes one of the two on order. And there is a backup.

To upgrade could cost upwards of a billion dollars and take as much as two years. The upgrade could cost more than the damn plane. The new planes could be ready by the time the Qatar plane is. So why would you spend the money?

Media media media. You're being led by the nose based on the word of one member of congress. Zero facts.

I'm simply asking you to explain why trump is doing business with Qatar and championing them as great friends considering their relationship with Hamas. Is that hard to understand?

 
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Why does one need to defend a gift to THIS COUNTRY? It's not a private jet for DJT, it's to be put in the USAF fleet of planes. As a US citizen, I'm all for it.

Hell, the Biden clan got more than that from Ukraine, China, and other nefarious players and you say nothing about that.
But why do we need a third AF1? It's going to cost HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS in addition to the two already ordered. And the plane is scheduled to be decommissioned and gifted to the non-existent Trump library 01/01/29.

The Biden Ukraine stuff is more propaganda. Get some new material.
 
Why does one need to defend a gift to THIS COUNTRY? It's not a private jet for DJT, it's to be put in the USAF fleet of planes. As a US citizen, I'm all for it.

Hell, the Biden clan got more than that from Ukraine, China, and other nefarious players and you say nothing about that.
Another unproven lie. Ask Congressman Comer what he came up with after all his investigations. Where are the indictments, the impeachment? You've been saying the same stuff for years. No you look like a pathetic old man, holding on for dear life to the lies the media told you.
 
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