D. Anderson to IU
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Just a recruiting battle they won. Wouldn't take a ton more away than that. Everyone remember the drama on this board when Devon Davis and Collin Hartman committed to Crean?
Something very strange about this. I wonder if Archie put these guys on notice that he needed their commitment by today or he would be moving on to the others. And then all 3 of them announced their commitment within 20 hours. Between the 17 and 18 classes they now have 6'6", 6'9", 6'7", 6'7", and 6'8". That is a logjam brewing at the 3/4. Can't help but wonder if all 3 of these guys make it to signing day.
Maybe we will get Henry now. 2 years ago we were chasing Carsen Edwards, Xavier Simpson and Tejon Lucas. Carsen was the lowest rated of the 3 (if I remember correctly) but when I watched his clips I thought he was the best - and everyone on this board wanted Simpson. That was honestly my same reaction when I watched clips of Henry and Anderson a couple weeks ago. Not knowing the rankings, I would have said that Henry was the higher ranked player. Not sour grapes at all, but from the limited amount I've seen, I don't see Anderson being that special.
This is why I never get emotionally vested into a recruitment anymore. No point of it, when they commit, I'll start checking them out. Don't want the kid anyhow if he wants to play down there.
I won't lie I would've liked for Purdue to have signed him but that was more for selfish reasons because he's around a top 100 kid and I'd be able to go watch him play in my local area this year. I've never seen him play though so I'm not going to freak out that we lost the #100 player in the class and maybe will settle for another player ranked somewhere between 150 and 75. The difference between Anderson and a kid from Texas ranked #80 or a kid from Indy ranked #130 isn't that great. At the end of the day, let's get a class with talented, team-oriented guys who are willing to work hard.
My thoughts are this hurts not because I liked Anderson. but we lost him to a new coach at IU. Also because we have a lot of offers out to players at different positions, but very few to true small forwards. Hunter was an expected loss. but, saying goodbye to both Hunter and Anderson hurts because we truly need a SF, and our other SF offers were not that great. and I hate this no position basketball Painter plays , and I'd hate to slide Eastern or Cline to play SF.
Anderson said last week how much IU said he would be "the Guy" if he came to IU and that they really liked him and he felt the love. He said he was going to play AAU ball and hoped other coaches like Calipari would take notice and make him an offer.. I guess Painter didn't show him enough love.
Anderson said last week how much IU said he would be "the Guy" if he came to IU and that they really liked him and he felt the love. He said he was going to play AAU ball and hoped other coaches like Calipari would take notice and make him an offer.. I guess Painter didn't show him enough love.
This one hurts because he said he almost committed when we offered. He also talked a lot about Painter believing in him from the start.
Kudos to Archie and his staff. When he hired Flint and Schilling to be on staff he made great hires.
Kudos to Archie and his staff. When he hired Flint and Schilling to be on staff he made great hires.
ha yeah, i gave up following closely since the tyler zeller saga.
and even commits are no sure thing. r.vaden was a verbal about 3 years before changing iirc. i should have learned back then.
How is this not a big deal we've been recruiting this kid the longest he's visited Purdue several times he was said to be a Purdue lean Archie comes in at the last moment and takes him from us but I guess that's not a big deal. I love how recruits before they commit are awesome but once they commit somewhere else it's no big deal they wasn't that good or they didn't fit the Purdue system.
In my opinion that should scare the s*** out of all of us it does me I got this weird feeling we better take advantage of IU this year after it's not looking good. And that is my humble opinion before somebody attacks me.
It is mind boggling. Anderson just backed himself into a log jam instead of a possibility at immediately getting started minutes in a system that would fit him perfect. I thought for sure Hunter and Thompson would push out Anderson. IU is filling up with athletic wings, which is good, but those three likely won't be on the court at the same time ever. There was something other than playing time going on there. Painter gave him every reason to go to Purdue. I am worried because Miller was beating Painter for recruits at Dayton. Now he can swoop in last minute on long time Purdue targets in Indiana and win the battle. Purdue has. Strong advantage over IU talent wise this year. Got to mop the floor with them at every chance.
I wanted Anderson because of his size at the wing position. I also thought the wing position was a need and he was the best option. Painter spotted the talent early, he should have pushed harder for that commitment early. Overall, Purdue is fine. Still many targets on board and IU, ND, and MSU are really crowded this class. Still have a great shot at Embery and Hunter (I would say take them both with Anderson off the board) and Dowuana is still in play.
I wanted Anderson because of his size at the wing position. I also thought the wing position was a need and he was the best option. Painter spotted the talent early, he should have pushed harder for that commitment early. Overall, Purdue is fine. Still many targets on board and IU, ND, and MSU are really crowded this class. Still have a great shot at Embery and Hunter (I would say take them both with Anderson off the board) and Dowuana is still in play.
Hummm. Your posts #3 and #4 are telling us to watch out for the great Archie at IU. You got an account on this board just for this? I think you are overly impressed by this situation. He has yet win one game for IU, recruits 3 forwards to go with the 3 forwards already on the team, and we should fear this...? Why? Did you go to IU?
Neither Anderson nor Thompson are not top 100 players. Maybe Hunter is the real deal. The rest of them might collect a lot of splinters for a couple years.
Interesting mix of players. I wonder what this says about his expected style of play. I haven't followed Archie closely, but his brother Sean has had some very good pack line defenses with several long athletic players. I wonder if Archie wants to do the same.
Painter continues to go in the opposite direction of IU (and much of college basketball) as he builds around the post. It's a less appealing system for slashers, but a good system for shooters. I still am really hoping for Eric Hunter and his shooting ability to compliment Williams.
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Archie is going to use Thompson as a 4/5 type, Hunter mainly 3. And want Damezi to play two guard and some 3. They all talked today before the two committed and agreed they can all be on the floor at the same time. You are right IU has a lot of wings but not much at the 2 guard position. If Anderson comes in and works hard he could be playing early on
Archie runs the same defense as his brother Sean, Pack line defense with long athletic guys, he will continue to recruit guys like Anderson and Hunter with that body type, like the same that Sean does
Don't worry that to guard is coming in the name of Romeo Langford that is my humble opinion he will sign with IU now too.
Both of them are top 100 kids what are you talking about. And I said my humble opinion before anybody attacks me I am definitely a Purdue fan.
You mean Race Thompson? Purdue wasn't recruiting him, were they? So Eric Hunter is still available? I'm just trying to keep up with all this recruiting news.
Damezi Anderson is close as a 101 Rivals ranking. He is 82 at Scout and 91 at 247. You believe he may not rise in the rankings, or possibly even fall? There are many Purdue fans that would have loved to have the kid play here. I would not diminish his ability simply because he chose to play at IU.
I am sure there are more than 3 really good players out there . So much changes from High School to college, some are burned out, some don't improve, some get other interests that overrides basketball, some have personal problems. Painter will get some good recruits that want to come to Purdue, why worry about a few players that didn't want to play at Purdue.
They are top 150 kids, but did not make the top 100 list. However, you can believe what you wish. It's easy if you don't look at the recruiting rankings.
Yep, I am sure you are a Purdue fan. It is just coincidence that you created a new ID and all your posts are about how good IU's recruits are. You never mention any of the other BIG schools, most of which have at least one recruit ranked better than any of IU's.
I do wonder how much of Anderson's decision came down to sales pitch. No matter how you slice it (Anderson playing the 2 is a stretch), in 2018 there is a logjam at the wing and forward positions, and in all likelihood the freshmen will be the odd men out.
From all reports, Painter's approach is to be very honest with recruits about competition, working hard, and having to earn playing time. It is no mystery that other coaches take more of a sales approach and promise early playing time even when there is obvious incumbent competition from previous recruiting classes (to whom they also promised playing time). IMO this is a big reason why there is a transfer epidemic in college basketball - unmet expectations spawned from unrealistic promises.
I think Painter understands that his program is better off in the long run with a recruit who is ranked #130 who understands he needs to come in and earn his way into the lineup than a recruit who is ranked #100 who thinks of himself as game ready. If he swings and misses because of a 17 year old's mindset, then on to the next guy. See the CJ Walker / Carsen Edwards scenario. Any coach who is telling recruits they are going to be the man from day one is sowing the seeds of discontent. Certainly there are exceptions - you tell a top 20 guy whatever he wants to hear (i.e. Biggie playing the 4, living arrangements, etc.) - but once you get down in the ranks past the NBA ready guys there just isn't enough difference in talent to warrant any potential coachability issues.
Brachen Hazen is a PRIME example of this. Can't find the article where he said Arkansas' program wasn't what he thought it was going to be - aka - bill of goods was not what he signed up for.
Damn I wanted him. A good player. Dome town just isn't good for us.
Okay I'm not sending my new Boiler T-shirt back. It's time to move on to the next recruit. That's why we recruit a lot of potentials.
Okay I'm not sending my new Boiler T-shirt back. It's time to move on to the next recruit. That's why we recruit a lot of potentials.
Excellent thinking. This is why it is good to believe in Coach Painter and his staff's analysis as well, and their ability to then coach up the kids they do land.
Follow up to the post above by FirstDownB.
It is also why I am perplexed by fans who have such a rigidity to and admiration of recruit rankings. I do not understand the insistence on diminishing Damezi Anderson by continually pointing out he will be riding the pine and was not in the top 100 on the current Rivals ranking. He was ALL the way down at 101! Nevermind that he was in the top 100 in other services, since rankings matter. Or that Coach Painter and many fans would have been pleased to have him just days earlier. Thankfully these kids will all take the court, and we find out their actual, rather than projected, talent.
Anderson said it all last week in an interview that few posters on this board read or paid much attention to. He said he liked IU, and their coach REALLY liked him. Archie showed him more love than PAinter. Maybe part of Painter's recruiting problem is that his style of play tends to be the same every year, and he goes after players who fit his style and system, rather than changing his style to match the talents of his players. The message he is sending is if you want to be a star small forward, don't come to Purdue, because we're a big man school, and we allow our guards to shoot threes. The small forward position is a support role position.
Some people said JJJ could play small forward even at his height. And that didn't ever seem a possibility if he came to Purdue. La Lum's Bowen knew all about Purdue, but was never interested in coming here, even when he ran out of recruiting options and we still had a scholarship to give. And I'm sorry, I'm not buying the story that he and Eastern couldn't play on the same team because they hate each other.
It just seems elite small forwards take a look at Purdue, and like it, and then sign elsewhere. I just believe it's not the coach, but rather the way his style of play doesn't highlight the talents of a small forward. Look at V Edwards. The NBA sees him as a small forward, and what position will he play at Purdue? How much time did Hummel spend playing PF?
Maybe Archie promised he would feature the small forward as part of his offense, and Anderson and Hunter bought into the sales pitch.
Some people said JJJ could play small forward even at his height. And that didn't ever seem a possibility if he came to Purdue. La Lum's Bowen knew all about Purdue, but was never interested in coming here, even when he ran out of recruiting options and we still had a scholarship to give. And I'm sorry, I'm not buying the story that he and Eastern couldn't play on the same team because they hate each other.
It just seems elite small forwards take a look at Purdue, and like it, and then sign elsewhere. I just believe it's not the coach, but rather the way his style of play doesn't highlight the talents of a small forward. Look at V Edwards. The NBA sees him as a small forward, and what position will he play at Purdue? How much time did Hummel spend playing PF?
Maybe Archie promised he would feature the small forward as part of his offense, and Anderson and Hunter bought into the sales pitch.
You don't have to believe the Earth is round but facts are facts.
Maybe it is best to take the rest of the summer off from posting
I agree, maybe like Wabash, you should. Or.....Maybe you should do a 360 and spend some time reading some of my basketball posts on other boards from 2-5 years ago. Although usually against the beliefs of the majority of other posters, my strange posts had an uncanny Percentage of being accurate.
Many players hate each other. Many posters here hate each other. But they still play together. As for Bowen and Eastern, the truth/reality is Bowen didn't want to play for Purdue even before Eastern signed with us. Bowen never wanted to play for Purdue. So I ask the question why? Was it Painter? Was it his style of play? Was it the red bricks? What was it about Purdue that turned Bowen and all the other players like him away? Chem 115? Calc 163?
Thermodynamics? Farmhouse?
Before you can fix a problem, you must first identify it.
Bowen was not the first elite SF who didn't want to play for Painter. There was a long line of names before him. And Anderson and Hunter just added their names to that list. You may not like the answers, but you need to analyze and identify the reasons, before you can fix them.
Some advice you need to take for yourself. But have someone who is a bit more realistic do it for you.
As said above CMP is apparently known for being more honest than a salesman. I'll take honesty every day of the week and twice on sunday over being a salesmen. Because in the end, winning isn't and never will be more important than integrity.
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