Craig Bohl

[06boiler]

I say he is the safest pick for our next coach. I was leaning towards getting a coach that runs a high tempo offense because I believe it's a great equalizer when facing more talented teams (as we have seen with Purdue and Joe Tiller and more currently with Indiana). However, after looking at Coach Bohl's track record and his success in turning around Wyoming (currently beating #13 BSU) I think he would be a very good coach for us, and a less risky pick compared to the up and coming PJ Fleck. It's true his offensive style is conservative but it works because his defenses complement it. A conservative offense doesn't win you games if the defense doesn't back you up. But Wisconsin and Iowa, and Minnesota to an extent, have shown us that in our conference, the combination can produce winning teams, even facing more talented teams like OSU, Michigan, MSU.

I feel additionally, it will allow us to build on our current system and recruits, instead of having to start all over installing a new up tempo system and having to recruit for it. I feel the turn around would be less painful. Thoughts?

 

[Heiner]

You can still be the "cradle of quarterbacks" but we are going nowhere in our conference without a stout defense. It all starts on that side of the ball. Smoke and mirrors only goes on for so long. Loved the Tiller years but the league caught up with us. Good D coordinators don't take long to figure things out. We need a solid hire not a magician.

 

[michnittlion]

No, no, no. You never want to hire a coach in his late-50s who is from Wyoming. When has that ever worked?

 

[TC4THREE]

You can still be the "cradle of quarterbacks" but we are going nowhere in our conference without a stout defense. It all starts on that side of the ball. Smoke and mirrors only goes on for so long. Loved the Tiller years but the league caught up with us. Good D coordinators don't take long to figure things out. We need a solid hire not a magician.

Not sure the league ever really caught up to the offense as much as we eventually ended up with Curtis Painter as our QB. A scheme doesn't win or lose by itself. You have to have players execute it. Painter was great when he had perfect protection against inferior team. If the opposition made him move at all he was not very good. That's a big part of the reason we never beat any ranked teams for a long period time.

 

[Heiner]

Not sure the league ever really caught up to the offense as much as we eventually ended up with Curtis Painter as our QB. A scheme doesn't win or lose by itself. You have to have players execute it. Painter was great when he had perfect protection against inferior team. If the opposition made him move at all he was not very good. That's a big part of the reason we never beat any ranked teams for a long period time.

Drew Brees was a rare gift of God that Boiler fans rarely receive and I know you think that way too. You are correct with Painter and the protection issues. I just don't want a "gimmickey" hire. This is a Mr. Obvious statement but a solid hire that can recruit here can compete in the B1G West fairly quick. We're not as far behind as we appear. Defense wins championships.

 

[rgarlitz]

I definitely agree with Heiner with respect to defense. An exciting high octane offense probably will sell tickets. But those offenses often have less than 50% time of possession, and that can be tough on a weak defense.

 

[Bigohh]

I definitely agree with Heiner with respect to defense. An exciting high octane offense probably will sell tickets. But those offenses often have less than 50% time of possession, and that can be tough on a weak defense.

Weak defense is seemingly a Purdue trademark. Even the Brees teams were mostly successful because we outscored our opponents, not because we shut them down. This obvious fact is what led to the exit of Spack. I think our last dominant defense was in the days of Fat Jack with Leroy going both ways.

 

[BoilerAndy]

Weak defense is seemingly a Purdue trademark. Even the Brees teams were mostly successful because we outscored our opponents, not because we shut them down. This obvious fact is what led to the exit of Spack. I think our last dominant defense was in the days of Fat Jack with Leroy going both ways.

Don't forget the junkyard defense with Keena Turner and crew under Jim Young.

 

[TC4THREE]

Drew Brees was a rare gift of God that Boiler fans rarely receive and I know you think that way too. You are correct with Painter and the protection issues. I just don't want a "gimmickey" hire. This is a Mr. Obvious statement but a solid hire that can recruit here can compete in the B1G West fairly quick. We're not as far behind as we appear. Defense wins championships.

I guess I just have a hard time seeing us win that way. It is so rare to see it in college football in general and not sure we have ever seen it at Purdue. Some of Tillers defenses were pretty good but we usually won by pairing them with a prolific passing game.

 

[FirstDownB]

Weak defense is seemingly a Purdue trademark. Even the Brees teams were mostly successful because we outscored our opponents, not because we shut them down. This obvious fact is what led to the exit of Spack. I think our last dominant defense was in the days of Fat Jack with Leroy going both ways.

Those Tiller/Spack defenses never get enough credit. When we couldn't beat the big boys it was typically due to turnovers, special teams blunders, or our offense getting bottled up by a physical defense. The D typically held its own.

Purdue defense conference rank (scoring):
2000: 4th
2001: 5th
2002: 5th
2003: 3rd
2004: 3rd
2005: 6th
2006: 8th
2007: 7th
2008: 7th

Purdue offense conference rank (scoring):
2000: 3rd
2001: 11th
2002: 3rd
2003: 6th
2004: 1st
2005: 8th
2006: 5th
2007: 1st
2008: 7th

From 2000-2004, Purdue defense was consistently between #3 and #5 in the conference, on par with the offense. You can see both offense and defense began take a dive around 2005 when overall talent diminished.

I will say one thing about needing a good offense.. those defenses benefited from some talented offensive recruits who were converted to defense. Without a prolific offense we may not have been able to sign them.

 

[northside100]

I say he is the safest pick for our next coach. I was leaning towards getting a coach that runs a high tempo offense because I believe it's a great equalizer when facing more talented teams (as we have seen with Purdue and Joe Tiller and more currently with Indiana). However, after looking at Coach Bohl's track record and his success in turning around Wyoming (currently beating #13 BSU) I think he would be a very good coach for us, and a less risky pick compared to the up and coming PJ Fleck. It's true his offensive style is conservative but it works because his defenses complement it. A conservative offense doesn't win you games if the defense doesn't back you up. But Wisconsin and Iowa, and Minnesota to an extent, have shown us that in our conference, the combination can produce winning teams, even facing more talented teams like OSU, Michigan, MSU.

I feel additionally, it will allow us to build on our current system and recruits, instead of having to start all over installing a new up tempo system and having to recruit for it. I feel the turn around would be less painful. Thoughts?

I say he is the safest pick for our next coach. I was leaning towards getting a coach that runs a high tempo offense because I believe it's a great equalizer when facing more talented teams (as we have seen with Purdue and Joe Tiller and more currently with Indiana). However, after looking at Coach Bohl's track record and his success in turning around Wyoming (currently beating #13 BSU) I think he would be a very good coach for us, and a less risky pick compared to the up and coming PJ Fleck. It's true his offensive style is conservative but it works because his defenses complement it. A conservative offense doesn't win you games if the defense doesn't back you up. But Wisconsin and Iowa, and Minnesota to an extent, have shown us that in our conference, the combination can produce winning teams, even facing more talented teams like OSU, Michigan, MSU.

I feel additionally, it will allow us to build on our current system and recruits, instead of having to start all over installing a new up tempo system and having to recruit for it. I feel the turn around would be less painful. Thoughts?

Bohl would be crazy to take this job. At 58 whatever his next job is will be his last. He has a very young Wyoming team playing well and if he doesn't get an offer from a traditional top 25 type program this year he will next year. At this point in his career he has to be looking for a job where he can win quickly and Purdue is a dumpster fire.

 

[uncleboiler]

Bohl would be crazy to take this job. At 58 whatever his next job is will be his last. He has a very young Wyoming team playing well and if he doesn't get an offer from a traditional top 25 type program this year he will next year. At this point in his career he has to be looking for a job where he can win quickly and Purdue is a dumpster fire.

And therein lies the problem in the coaching search. A young coach, like a PJ Fleck, isn't going to ruin their career coming to Purdue. Let's face it, were not a "destination" program for good young coaches. I doubt any young coach is thinking "I hope I get the Purdue job".
The good ones will wait for an opportunity at a place they'll have a chance to compete for championships...Purdue ain't that place.
So Bohl probably is the type of coach Purdue has a real shot at....an older coach looking for a 5 year $12 million deal and then retire.

 

[everybody knows my name]

Gophers fan and former Fargo (NDSU) area resident here. Bohl is a great fundamental coach with a cohesive and highly developed philosophy. Some people think he's got an ethics problem, but I think that stems from an incident early in his career that I'm not privy to.

Purdue could do a lot worse.

 

[BeachinSteveO]

Spack couldn't defend the screen play.

 

[PaBoiler78]

Spack couldn't defend the screen play.

Brohm as HC and then hiring Tim DeRuyter as DC.

 

[Ataylor1989x]

I say he is the safest pick for our next coach. I was leaning towards getting a coach that runs a high tempo offense because I believe it's a great equalizer when facing more talented teams (as we have seen with Purdue and Joe Tiller and more currently with Indiana). However, after looking at Coach Bohl's track record and his success in turning around Wyoming (currently beating #13 BSU) I think he would be a very good coach for us, and a less risky pick compared to the up and coming PJ Fleck. It's true his offensive style is conservative but it works because his defenses complement it. A conservative offense doesn't win you games if the defense doesn't back you up. But Wisconsin and Iowa, and Minnesota to an extent, have shown us that in our conference, the combination can produce winning teams, even facing more talented teams like OSU, Michigan, MSU.

I feel additionally, it will allow us to build on our current system and recruits, instead of having to start all over installing a new up tempo system and having to recruit for it. I feel the turn around would be less painful. Thoughts?

Worthy of a bump today..

 

[boilerfan66]

I guess I just have a hard time seeing us win that way. It is so rare to see it in college football in general and not sure we have ever seen it at Purdue. Some of Tillers defenses were pretty good but we usually won by pairing them with a prolific passing game.

Junk defense was Leon Burtnett.

 

[Lelze]

Bohl would be crazy to take this job. At 58 whatever his next job is will be his last. He has a very young Wyoming team playing well and if he doesn't get an offer from a traditional top 25 type program this year he will next year. At this point in his career he has to be looking for a job where he can win quickly and Purdue is a dumpster fire.

Did he not just sign a new deal in the last week?

 

[Foolmeoncefan]

A coach who knows how to win. We don't need no little Mac wods. Definite safe pick. He has a solid career with proven results. His teams at both recent schools would beat Purdue down like a whimp. They smacked Iowa around like a whimp already. Imagine what they'd do this Hazell Purdue team.

 

[06boiler]

Did he not just sign a new deal in the last week?

Yes I believe we are late to the party once again. Or MBob didn't target him at all...

 

[exactcopies]

Yes I believe we are late to the party once again. Or MBob didn't target him at all...

If you sign a new deal where you're already at, that's a pretty good indicator that you aren't interested in leaving.

 

[studed]

You can still be the "cradle of quarterbacks" but we are going nowhere in our conference without a stout defense. It all starts on that side of the ball. Smoke and mirrors only goes on for so long. Loved the Tiller years but the league caught up with us. Good D coordinators don't take long to figure things out. We need a solid hire not a magician.

also bohl recruited and coached the qb that went 2 in the nfl draft last year. wyoming started a redshirt freshmen qb this year with a laser arm that will be a first round pick in a few years.

 

[Foolmeoncefan]

If you sign a new deal where you're already at, that's a pretty good indicator that you aren't interested in leaving.

Purdue should offer him. I without a doubt like Bohl in spades.

 

[Merda_Rex]

Did he not just sign a new deal in the last week?

With a $6.5M buyout.

 

[AZPurdue007]

Don't forget the junkyard defense with Keena Turner and crew under Jim Young.

It seems you have forgotten. It was the "junk" defense, not the "junkyard" defense.

 

[Foolmeoncefan]

With a $6.5M buyout.

Buy it out. The guy is worth it.