Cooper Neese
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totally no ---- but I am friends with the family --- had not heard this... I have thoughts, but would only be super rumors.
Here's a bit of backstory:
"... some red flags began to be raised during the Indiana vs. Kentucky All-Star series in June in terms of whether or not Neese could contribute at the highest level of college basketball.
In a double-overtime loss to the Kentucky All-Stars in Frankfort, Indiana coach Marty Beasley felt the need to utilize six players more so than he did Neese (22 minutes of playing time). In fact, Indiana Wesleyan freshman forward Grant Smith played 42 minutes in accumulating a double-double (17 points, 10 rebounds), while showing incredible timing and athleticism as he blocked six Kentucky shots.
While Smith was making spectacular play after spectacular play, Neese was missing four of six shots (including all three of his 3-pointers, which were supposedly his specialty) and finishing with just four points.
Now one game – or even one series – can not be used as a fair assessment of a player’s total ability to perform, but when a Big East recruit is having a hard time getting on the floor in a high school exhibition filled with mid-level recruits, there is no denying that it is noteworthy."
~~~~http://www.news-sentinel.com/sports...it-obviously-doesnt-fit-with-bulldog-program/
Here's a bit of backstory:
"... some red flags began to be raised during the Indiana vs. Kentucky All-Star series in June in terms of whether or not Neese could contribute at the highest level of college basketball.
In a double-overtime loss to the Kentucky All-Stars in Frankfort, Indiana coach Marty Beasley felt the need to utilize six players more so than he did Neese (22 minutes of playing time). In fact, Indiana Wesleyan freshman forward Grant Smith played 42 minutes in accumulating a double-double (17 points, 10 rebounds), while showing incredible timing and athleticism as he blocked six Kentucky shots.
While Smith was making spectacular play after spectacular play, Neese was missing four of six shots (including all three of his 3-pointers, which were supposedly his specialty) and finishing with just four points.
Now one game – or even one series – can not be used as a fair assessment of a player’s total ability to perform, but when a Big East recruit is having a hard time getting on the floor in a high school exhibition filled with mid-level recruits, there is no denying that it is noteworthy."
~~~~http://www.news-sentinel.com/sports...it-obviously-doesnt-fit-with-bulldog-program/
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Neese is going to be a very good talent, but at this point, but he misses this year and then has to sit out a year. If I recall, he even has to miss the first semester of 2019 because he stared the season. I am not 100% up on the transfer rules. Very strange to me why he would leave. Plenty of talent and plenty of opportunity. Definitely something to keep an eye on though. Great height for a pg and he can shoot extremely well.
He's not a PG ... and this semester is "lost." If he enrolls for second semester at another D1 school, then he can count 2nd this year and 1st next year as his year out ....
OR!!! - play right away at D2
If academics issues are really the case and he is struggling at a spoon-feed U like Butler, Purdue would not be a good choice.
Although this meets the "out of competition for one year" rule. It does not meet the "stay eligible" rule. He left Butler, meaning he is not completing his classes. He will not earn credits for this semester. Therefore, he must become eleigible after enrolling at a new school. Thus, not until the end of next fall semester unless he really loads up on classes this spring and summer.
SEE THIS:
- One of the most important requirements when transferring is to stay eligible at the school you are leaving. If you are not eligible at the first school, you generally may not use a transfer exception to play immediately at your new school. If you are transferring to a Division I school, you also may not receive an athletic scholarship during your first year if you were not eligible to compete when you left your previous school. Finally, remaining eligible almost reduces your impact on a school’s Academic Progress Rate if you transfer, which can make getting permission to contact or assistance with your transfer easier.
- Meet the transfer credit hours requirements
There are some specific credit hour requirements just for transfers. In both Division I and Division II, all transfers must complete six hours their previous term. In Division II, those hours must be transferrable. Division I also has other credit hour requirements based on how long you have been in college:- After one semester or quarter: six semester-hours or six
- After one academic year (two semesters/three quarters): 24 semester-hours or 36 quarter-hours
- After three semesters/four quarters: 30 semester-hours or 42 quarter-hours
- After four or more semesters/six or more quarters: six semester-hours or six quarter-hours the previous term.
- Become eligible at your new school
Eligibility at your previous school and the transfer credit hour requirements are mostly about the hours you complete at that school. Becoming eligible at your new school is mostly about what credits are transferrable and what major you select. One important point to remember: a student who transfers before they have completed two years of school (four semesters/six quarters) generally does not need many of their credits to transfer to be eligible. If you lose many credits in the transfer, the biggest issue will be playing catch-up later on, but it may not impact your ability to play right away.
Just to add minor details ... Butler does not have to allow him to contact other schools until after the end of Butler's second semester. I doubt this would happen, but Butler essentially owns him for the first year. That's the contract that signing a NLI includes. If Butler were to not allow him ... he could not contact or talk with another school about a scholarship.
Good details. If he is within the time constraints where he can drop all of his classes, does that help his case?
No because he needs credit hours, not grade points. Well, he needs grade points too, but he needs to maintain progression toward a degree.
Once he becomes a student, that's his first year ... can't stop it. So, by the start of next fall he needs 24 credit hours - I thought it was more.
And he must have completed 6 credit hours in the spring semester at the new school.
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Thanks. So loading up 2nd semester and summer session at his new school could get him to where he needs to be. But if he isn't a good student, I don't care how easy the classes are, this is not going to be fun.
My interpretation is if he got acceptable grades on 18 hours spring semester and 6 hours in the summer, he could then compete after Oct. 8th. The rule reads that he must take a year away from competition. It does not say he must be at his new school for a year. Although!!! - I have not read all of the NCAA manual, just parts that seem to apply.
Heard yesterday he is going to Indiana State and will be eligable in Dec 2018.
I expected that was where he would end-up and Dec is the end of the fall semester, so he has time to catch-up credit hourss.
I don't know Cooper but I know his dad fairly well. He graduated A year before me at Cloverdale.
WHOA! A clover on the Boiler forum ... you are a rebel. Are you allowed to go home?
Home is not the issue. i raised my kids boiler fans. Work is a struggle, over 30 years at Cook inc. in Bloomington. Cook is great. The IU fans not so much.
OMG - You are a hero. LOL. I meant home to mean CLoverdale. Yes, Cook is a fine group. But geez, You could have transferred up to the Research Park.
LOL. Thanks. The split in Cloverdale between Purdue/IU is not that far apart. A lot of ag/farm (My younger days) people and they seem to leen Purdue. Researsh park would be quite the commute.
That is true just about everywhere, not just Bloomington.
