I think Nag has a point but I am concerned that this happens to Vince every time he is matched on a better athlete
Carsen Edwards
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I think you have nailed coach's approach. Give him a longer leash early then pull it tighter later in the game. Good training.As the pressure heats up on D against Purdue and the need to defend the three and drive that ball being in bonus....CE was teh right answer. Matt just told him you shoot the ball early in the clock and you have 100 stairs to give me time to decide the appropriate significant emotional event as punishment for this brain dead moment. Carsen did what needed done...
I can't get on board yet with Carsen's defense. I agree he's doing fine for a freshman, especially considering how much Painter emphasizes man to man.......lots for him to learn.
His athleticism allows him to make up for mistakes. No one should go by him but it happens. Off ball he gets a little lost at times. Looks like he is just not dialed in every possession.........but I don't think that's abnormal for a young player. He can be a stopper when he really commits to defending the best he can every possession. Also our best chance for steals on a team that doesn't get many.
Dakota is the best we have and I don't think it's even close. He was running through wall after wall against Harris last night.
I agree on Dakota Mathias. DM did a really nice job last night with Harris, even with EH making a couple of hand-in-your-face, tip-your-cap shots. IIRC, at Iowa, he picked up his third early in the second half....plenty of things went wrong in the second half there, but that didn't help.
Swanigan and the Edwards boys can make things go and are big barometers for the offense, but to me, DM is the "glue" guy (as many others have discussed)......and he'll do the dirty work on D that needs to be done.
I agree on Dakota Mathias. DM did a really nice job last night with Harris, even with EH making a couple of hand-in-your-face, tip-your-cap shots. IIRC, at Iowa, he picked up his third early in the second half....plenty of things went wrong in the second half there, but that didn't help.
Swanigan and the Edwards boys can make things go and are big barometers for the offense, but to me, DM is the "glue" guy (as many others have discussed)......and he'll do the dirty work on D that needs to be done.
Nice with the SD reference. Showing your age
Good point with the Iowa game. Not saying we would have won because of it...........Jok was doing OK with Dakota on him, but that third on Dakota really changed what we could do defensively early in the second half. Like MSU, Iowa was running Jok off two and sometimes three screens. Dakota spends a ton of energy on defense trying keep up.
Agreed. And he still made his presence felt with 5 board and 4 assists.
That's what I love about VE. He affects the game in more ways than just scoring the rock.
Not sure where the 2-8 stat came from. He hit two 3's and had a least 2 driving layup so.
I want to see this, too. He's one of my favorite players and he has the talent to be special. He wants to be in the NBA. Going up against another future NBA player, he has to shine. Rise to the challenge.
I think that Carsen, although not perfect, is doing enough in Painter's eyes to keep him out there. If he was not doing ok and improving, Painter's track record would suggest that as a Freshman his min. would be limited. You just don't play for Matt if you cannot D up.
Didn't know that. He plays a little more stiff (but NOT a stiff as some may interpret) anyway and so I was unaware. Thanks
Is that just a guess based on when he slipped near the sidelines last night or do you have a credible source for that information?
We are awesome on the block, we have good three point shooters, but the biggest weakness in our offense is penetration into the lane and getting to the bucket. Carsen can fill that void, and I think Painter needs to try to use him for that even more often - and I think he has been lately. Those layups are demoralizing to the opponent. I think Carsen is figuring that out and trying to turn the corner on those screens and go all way to the hoop more often, and less floating around and jacking threes.
The back injury was mentioned in the game recap posted on this site by Brian:
"Vincent Edwards endured a rough night, finishing 2-of-8 from the floor and seeing his defensive assignment, Miles Bridges, net 33, but he's been plagued by a back injury of late and still chipped in 10 points, with some clutch foul shooting to close the game out."
Here's the whole article: MSU Recap
FYI Painter mentioned it in one of the post game interviews as well. Hope it's good as new soon...need a healthy Vincent badly.
You never have to worry about me having any inside info. I'm not a paid member, so I can only get to the free articles on here.
um have you ever seen IU play, bunch of good smart atheltes that still can't figure out how to play defense. It's bizarre - like a perfectly round, well-greased wheel that just won't roll
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Sorry that he is hurting but glad there is a reason he looked a bit off his game. Get well soon Vince.
