We can but they were a FCS playoff team with a stout defense and they have a confidence we don't have.
Can we beat Indiana State?
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If we can't beat them I think firing the coach right after the game needs to be prescribed. If we are paying multi millions to see a home loss to Indiana State, then this coaching staff would be the equivalent to a jewel thief cat burglar operation. And the fans would be the biggest suckers since Enron stock holders.
Purdue seems like a team getting ready to hit a golf shot over a pond to the green, and is wondering what part of the pond they are going to hit! While other teams think what part of the green to aim for! I don't know what it is, but attitude and mind set has to change
A loss THIS week would be devastating to the program! Bet it won't happen!
Losses to 1-AA teams are still very rare. It certainly can happen, but your phrasing should be can we lose.
Purdue's not some horrid team. I wouldn't be surprised to see us blow them out.
However, let's be clear. Just because purse plays well doesn't mean we are on the right track. Purdue blew out teams like this when we were average at best.
Everyone looks at stuff so black and white on this forum.
Until we have a QB with a better sense of timing his throws, this team has all the potential to lose to ISU and unfortunately for an 0- fer season. It's amazing this is where we are at from what used to be QB factory for the NFL.
What scares me is defense is their strength; give up 2 defensive TDs again and Terre Haute will be celebrating.
Fat chance we lose to ISU. Suggesting we do is flat out ridiculous. They aren't 1/3rd as good as Marshall. I'll go out on a steady limb and say the game isn't even competitive.
This team is clearly better than 2013 and 2014 by a long shot.
Wish the idiots would stop consoling themselves with post bottle keyboard rants.
This team is clearly better than 2013 and 2014 by a long shot.
Wish the idiots would stop consoling themselves with post bottle keyboard rants.
I won't deny I'm probably an idiot, but what evidence could anyone ever gather that we could blow out anybody?
Sorry, as it should be abundantly clear, rational thought and common sense don't prevail here.
There will be people begging us to fire Hazell next week after we win by 4-5 TDs
Honestly, Marshall on the road might have been our toughest OOC game. I think we are in line for a tough year, but not lose to ISU at home tough
It is nice to finally see a rational person reply. Thank you! And I agree. It wouldn't surprise me to see you go win your next 3 games. I know you will 2 of them, and VT is very winnable, they aren't any better than we are.
Indiana State beat Ball State last year and their program has been better then ours over the last 4-5 years according to most ? When was our last blowout win?
I'll differ with you here... I think we win 2 of the next 3 but the loss will be in a similar style...dominate the game for about 50 minutes and then put too much pressure on an inconsistent QB to have to throw the ball to win.
If we call the late 3rd and early 4th quarters differently AND execute better, we are potentially looking at being up 10-17 when Marshall starts that last drive they used to beat us.
We got conservative on D too when we had been playing press man all game and suddenly started giving your wideouts 10 yard cushions, even with 2 deep safety help. I don't get it. Lay calling and poor QB play threw away 45+ minutes of good football for us.
The Marshall fans around me at the game all thought we would likely be their toughest home game this year and maybe toughest game overall. They seemed to think they saw a good team on Sunday, and the game could have gone either way. As far as I'm concerned, I'm now a Herd fan too and hope they go undefeated the remainder of this year.
If that happened, wouldn't that shed a different light on Sunday's final result?
I'll bet you we win this game by 21...at least. Still don't understand why idiots like you come on here and try to convince us that after playing a fringe top 25 team from last year close on the road we are going to lose to ISU
Where did the OP try to convince us we're going to lose to ISU?
You lose all credibility when you start making stuff up.
I for the record agree with you that we will pound them, as well we should.
VT and BG games are huge now. Hazell needs 1 of them to have any chance at keeping his job, needs both to have a chance at a winning season.
You lose all credibility when you start making stuff up.
I for the record agree with you that we will pound them, as well we should.
VT and BG games are huge now. Hazell needs 1 of them to have any chance at keeping his job, needs both to have a chance at a winning season.
The subject of the thread was not worded well, in my opinion.
The problem with this forum is that it's so black and white and so extreme. We lost yesterday so now people are questioning if we beat Indiana State (which as you mention we should win by a good amount). Then when we actually do what we should do (and that's not saying whether we are bad, decent or good - we should win either way), people will be back on here saying how great this team is and how greatly improved it is. Then we'll lose again and we'll go back to doom and gloom. That's the life cycle of this forum and the basketball forum.
It's the same thing with QBs - it's literally the same cycle year after year. People want to get rid of x QB cause they aren't the future and they want to put x QB in cause they are the future. Then x QB of the future goes in and gets demolished and x QB of the future gets put aside for x QB with experience. Then x QB with experience sucks and people want a competition in the off-season. Then x QB wins the starting job and everyone points out the positives of him winning the starting job and X QB then sucks and people want x QB of the future. We've done this for years.
People lose sense of reality too easily. I don't think yesterday's loss was a 'good' loss by any means. I don't think Marshall is that great and the only edge they had was a home game. However, it's also not jump off the building time either given that it's the first game of the season.
Well put. That said, when somebody asked if we can beat a team after a loss (especially asking about a team we will dominate...even though we aren't good) it does imply that they actually think we can/might/should? Lose.
That's just crazy talk.
We will beat them like a rug.
The remainder of the schedule is a mystery surrounded by an enigma
We will beat ISU like a rug.
Anyone else on the schedule is an enigma wrapped in a mystery and surrounded by a question mark.
You are correct in my opinion. Personally I think you guys have a decent team, both lines are strong, some good receivers, good young backs. Bowl eligibility is what I predict. I honestly believe you can hang with VT, and will beat bowling green. I guess I would feel the same as most of you if Marshall was a scrub team, but that's not the case. Marshall is one of the best G5 teams which typically translates to similar talent as a middle of the pack P5 team, and you had a chance to beat us at home, which not many the last 3 years can claim. You are much better than last year and you will see that the next few games, so my point is to keep positive, it's a long season ahead, you will lose some heart breakers and win some you shouldn't and end up in a bowl, good sign of progress. We went through the same growing pains going through rebuilding after a horrible coach drug the program down. Holiday didn't see the fruits of his building turn the tide until 2013, and he was hired 2010. From what I saw, even the QB, you have the tools, now it's on the coaches to use them and steer them to success. If he only nets you 4 wins or less, probably time for a change. If he wins 5 or more, might need to give him another year, patience will pay off.......as long as progress is seen.
I like the golf analogy..... I am getting out my No Confidence Ball in getting over this Purdue Water Hazard.....
Well ,last year,Purdue beat SIU by over 20 points.I think Purdue is better this year.If AA doesn't throw two pick sixes again,Purdue will beat the Sycamores.
I think PU will beat ISU, but people have to be more rational and think that Va Tech is a game that is a toss-up. That team stuck the only loss on OSU last year in the Horseshoe, and Beamer is 50X better coach than Hazell.
That was last year though. Their QB is average. Their run game is good, but not as good as it was 5 years ago.
Their D according to their own fans isn't as good as it should be and their recruiting has fallen off lately with Beamer getting older.
I think it's probably 70/30 in favor of them but if we cut down on INTs and go for the kill when we have the other team on the ropes, we can surely win.
They certainly have some talent and should be a very tough assignment for Purdue. But they've been so inconsistent - last year, they lost to Wake Forest 6-3 in Double OT!
Just depends whether a focused VA Tech team shows up or not.
It isn't as rare as you think....
I'm pretty sure an FCS team has beaten an FBS team for a number of consecutive years. This year Wazzou has already been beaten and Minny got beat by NDSU a few years ago.
Minny also lost to South Dakota in 2010 41-38. It seems it all started with App St beating UM a number of years ago.Kansas lost to SDST.
We beat Indiana State by a field goal 2 years ago and they went like 1-11 that year; what has happened in the last 3-5 years that gives us confidence we will blow them out. I agree we should and will win but by no means do I believe it will be a blowout.
If they don't, they'll be lucky to get even 1 win this season! As others have noted, Purdue has some talent but the staff is certainly suspect, so as long as that situation exists, football success
will not be forthcoming!
will not be forthcoming!
Actually is was closer than that. If Ricardo Allen (i think?) doesn't have that 4th quarter interception, we may have lost. That said, we should pound ISU into the ground. We actually have a linebacker now and our running backs should be able to wear them down pretty fast. As long as AA isn't throwing to the other team for most of the 4th quarter, I think we win big.
Their QB will be out vs. us with a collar bone injury tonight.
If you can't beat em, hope they injure themselves?
Actually I don't think most of us are sweating the game against ISU. I fully expect Purdue to be able to beat the Sycamores by 28+. However, I am not sure Purdue can win a game against any of the other opponents when the game is close in the 4th quarter as Purdue hasn't shown that ability to fully close out a game. In no other games this year do I see Purdue holding a 14+ point advantage in to the 4th quarter, which is what it would truly take to obtain a win against the other competitors at this point. Even the lower rung teams Purdue will play (BGSU, Illini, Iowa, IU) will be able to hang points on Purdue and not having a two score advantage leads to a final drive where the opposing team scores, much like Marshall did. I don't really see Purdue being blown out in any game this year beyond the MSU game (yet Purdue played them well the last two years) but the program hasn't proven the ability to go and win a close game in the 4th quarter up to this point and Purdue isn't a class above any of the opponents on their schedule. Had Purdue come out and dominated like they appeared to do in the first half against Marshall, I would say that Purdue had a very real chance at 4-0 in the non-conference after VT lost their starting QB...now, seeing the same pitfalls that have plagued this staff and the program in general for the better part of 6 years, I'm not sure where the victories come from barring a simply bad performance in the first game and turnaround like we as fans saw with Tiller in his first year when Purdue lost at Toledo 22-36 and turned around and went 9-2 the rest of the season, including a bowl game.
I generally agree with you, but in all fairness our inability to close out a game in the 4th quarter has been a trait of this program long before Hazell.
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