Burke's next move

[BoilerStutz]

Purdue football is a "mell of a hess". So what is Burke to do? Two things he has demonstrated in the past that he cannot do:

1. Admit that he made a mistake
2. Buy out a coach, especially one making big money

My guess is that he goes after the coordinators and tries to re-energize the program by changing one or both of these fellows. This move could get Hazell through his expensive contract and get Burke to his retirement bash. And the costs associated with such a move are much smaller than a move with Hazell.

The dilemma of course is that ticket sales will continue to dwindle. Despite the big TV money, ticket sales matter - a lot. It is expensive keeping all that water in the natatorium at just the right temperature. Not to mention the maintenance costs of all of the new facilities that he has built. But I digress...

So will Burke actually swallow hard, buy out Hazell, and look for a new coach or will he make a lesser change at the risk of Ross Ade becoming a ghost town for the next couple of years? What think ye?

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

Coaching staff has definitely got to see the end has come, if Hazell doesn't resign , how can anyone have any respect for him. If he stays its all about money only, team will never be any good with him as coach

 

[ghostoffatjack]

Purdue football is a "mell of a hess". So what is Burke to do? Two things he has demonstrated in the past that he cannot do:

1. Admit that he made a mistake
2. Buy out a coach, especially one making big money

My guess is that he goes after the coordinators and tries to re-energize the program by changing one or both of these fellows. This move could get Hazell through his expensive contract and get Burke to his retirement bash. And the costs associated with such a move are much smaller than a move with Hazell.

The dilemma of course is that ticket sales will continue to dwindle. Despite the big TV money, ticket sales matter - a lot. It is expensive keeping all that water in the natatorium at just the right temperature. Not to mention the maintenance costs of all of the new facilities that he has built. But I digress...

So will Burke actually swallow hard, buy out Hazell, and look for a new coach or will he make a lesser change at the risk of Ross Ade becoming a ghost town for the next couple of years? What think ye?

It may be past time to fire the coordinators...who would take a job for one maybe two years?

 

[BoilerBonz]

Purdue football is a "mell of a hess". So what is Burke to do? Two things he has demonstrated in the past that he cannot do:

1. Admit that he made a mistake
2. Buy out a coach, especially one making big money

My guess is that he goes after the coordinators and tries to re-energize the program by changing one or both of these fellows. This move could get Hazell through his expensive contract and get Burke to his retirement bash. And the costs associated with such a move are much smaller than a move with Hazell.

The dilemma of course is that ticket sales will continue to dwindle. Despite the big TV money, ticket sales matter - a lot. It is expensive keeping all that water in the natatorium at just the right temperature. Not to mention the maintenance costs of all of the new facilities that he has built. But I digress...

So will Burke actually swallow hard, buy out Hazell, and look for a new coach or will he make a lesser change at the risk of Ross Ade becoming a ghost town for the next couple of years? What think ye?

The decision as to whether to buy out Hazell needs to be made at Mitch's level, not Burke's, because Burke cannot be allowed to hire the next coach. Which means, if Hazell goes, Burke gets reassigned as special assistant to President Daniels for daily inspection of the golf course facilities. And then Mitch would have to find his new AD over the next few months, in a quiet search.

 

[pu1985]

It may be past time to fire the coordinators...who would take a job for one maybe two years?

I've made this argument several times - the point to fire the coordinators was last off season. That horse has left the barn - you'll get nothing but cast offs and dregs (see: Shoop).
At this point Mitch needs to can Morgan (since he won't have the nuts to retire) and start the search process.

 

[BoilerStutz]

Mitch is not going to get involved this early, and he should not/will not can Morgan. But somehow the football program needs oversight by Mitch or others. One would think that a number of major donors would not be happy with the state of the program. The classic fall football weekend at Purdue is no more, and these weekends have a major impact on how alumni/donors feel about their school

 

[njm8845]

Why are people even suggesting hazell resigns? Has that ever happened in major college football? Clearly he'll stay as long as he can.

If hazell has any self awareness, he'd fire the coordinators asap. The fact that he didn't do so after BG makes me question him.

Burke made the change from hope mostly because ticket sales were dwindling. So I expect a change will be made this off season.

For me, the questions are:
1. Is there any advantage to firing hazell right now?
2. What needs to be done to get a new AD?

 

[lbodel]

Why are people even suggesting hazell resigns? Has that ever happened in major college football? Clearly he'll stay as long as he can.

If hazell has any self awareness, he'd fire the coordinators asap. The fact that he didn't do so after BG makes me question him.

Burke made the change from hope mostly because ticket sales were dwindling. So I expect a change will be made this off season.

For me, the questions are:
1. Is there any advantage to firing hazell right now?
2. What needs to be done to get a new AD?

The problem with this is that you want the AD that makes the hire to be the one that's AD when he's coach. Unless you already know who your next AD is (doubtful), then this talk is all for naught.

 

[Foolmeoncefan]

The decision as to whether to buy out Hazell needs to be made at Mitch's level, not Burke's, because Burke cannot be allowed to hire the next coach. Which means, if Hazell goes, Burke gets reassigned as special assistant to President Daniels for daily inspection of the golf course facilities. And then Mitch would have to find his new AD over the next few months, in a quiet search.

Oh no doubt. Burke cannot be allowed to make the next hire. This guy has no respect in college football from the coaching community. I could tell that almost immediately when that one coach turned down Purdue for Cinci. I mean that should tell you all you need to know right there. Then Burke who already tipped his hand went out for Kent State because no other coach would come down. Purdue needs to hire a new AD who can pierce through these clouds and bring in the sunshine. We need an athletic director who can demand out of the coaches and not the other way around. We need to reach out to places like Alabama to get an athletic director like West Virginia did. We need an AD who is going to do whatever it takes to put a respectable product onto the field and to let the coaches know this is a results based career path. You don't get a free ride so make sure your teams are getting better each year and if they aren't you're gone. And the AD should be on the phone looking HARD for a coach as a replacement option every year. That is his job. An AD in today's world needs to be looking for option A,B,C,D before the start of the season every season in case a fire needs to happen for whatever reason. An AD needs to assist the coach in getting recruiting intel. Burke separates himself from the football program and thinks he is like the CEO of a corporation. Guess what Burke you ain't. The AD needs to be front and center with the football program and ready to act on its behalf. The football program is the daddy that feeds the kids. So get that through your head Burke.

 

[BoilerBonz]

The problem with this is that you want the AD that makes the hire to be the one that's AD when he's coach. Unless you already know who your next AD is (doubtful), then this talk is all for naught.

Exactly, which is why replacing Hazell would require first replacing Burke. Combining this complication with Hazell's buyout means Hazell will survive until next year, unless this team completely melts down or some sugar daddy steps up to provide the buyout $.

 

[Walt34]

Potential coaching candidates: Tom Herman (Houston), Justin Fuente (Memphis), Matt Rhule (Temple), and Matt Campbell (Toledo).

Here is an interesting article on Fuente....http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...eprint-for-rebuilding-a-college-football-team

 

[Bigohh]

The decision as to whether to buy out Hazell needs to be made at Mitch's level, not Burke's, because Burke cannot be allowed to hire the next coach. Which means, if Hazell goes, Burke gets reassigned as special assistant to President Daniels for daily inspection of the golf course facilities. And then Mitch would have to find his new AD over the next few months, in a quiet search.

Hell no. Don't let him f__ up our fine golf courses. Maybe cleaning out the locker room toilets at the CO-REC would be appropriate.

 

[BoilerBonz]

Oh no doubt. Burke cannot be allowed to make the next hire. This guy has no respect in college football from the coaching community. I could tell that almost immediately when that one coach turned down Purdue for Cinci. I mean that should tell you all you need to know right there. Then Burke who already tipped his hand went out for Kent State because no other coach would come down. Purdue needs to hire a new AD who can pierce through these clouds and bring in the sunshine. We need an athletic director who can demand out of the coaches and not the other way around. We need to reach out to places like Alabama to get an athletic director like West Virginia did. We need an AD who is going to do whatever it takes to put a respectable product onto the field and to let the coaches know this is a results based career path. You don't get a free ride so make sure your teams are getting better each year and if they aren't you're gone. And the AD should be on the phone looking HARD for a coach as a replacement option every year. That is his job. An AD in today's world needs to be looking for option A,B,C,D before the start of the season every season in case a fire needs to happen for whatever reason. An AD needs to assist the coach in getting recruiting intel. Burke separates himself from the football program and thinks he is like the CEO of a corporation. Guess what Burke you ain't. The AD needs to be front and center with the football program and ready to act on its behalf. The football program is the daddy that feeds the kids. So get that through your head Burke.

I agree, except Burke and the BOT don't think they need "daddy" any longer now that they can feed the "kids" with the BTN $. Our BOT has for years demanded that the football program be operated in the most financially conservative, tight-fisted, manner possible, and this has translated into the short-sighted practice of requiring MB to balance his annual budget, rather than recognizing that sometimes you've got to spend $ now to make more $ later. The result was material under-investment in football for over 10 years relative to what it would have taken to remain competitive.

Burke and the BOT could easily argue that they've now tried the approach of paying "competitive" coaching salaries, and that apparently hasn't work. So, why not go back to a cost-minimazation model for football? Obviously, we could spend a lot less and not do much worse! So limit football scholarships to mainly in-state athletes and reduce coaching salaries to just above MAC levels. Then funnel the savings and the BTN $ into the non-revenue sports (so we're competitive in the "Director's Cup" standings), and let men's basketball feed itself, as it's well-equiped to do. Football would be at the bottom of the B1G every year, but we're there now anyway.

That would be the most financial prudent, risk-averse, way to run the Athletic Dept.

 

[pboiler18]

The fault in assuming all this is that you think we could fire our coordinators and get worse. I think at this point that's impossible.

 

[lbodel]

Exactly, which is why replacing Hazell would require first replacing Burke. Combining this complication with Hazell's buyout means Hazell will survive until next year, unless this team completely melts down or some sugar daddy steps up to provide the buyout $.

Well, you're assuming they are interested in replacing Burke now. I haven't ever gotten that feeling.

 

[pu1985]

Well, you're assuming they are interested in replacing Burke now. I haven't ever gotten that feeling.

Exactly - but if the money stops flowing, they may change their attitude....
No more nothing until a change is made. It's the only way

 

[Foolmeoncefan]

Burke and the BOT could easily argue that they've now tried the approach of paying "competitive" coaching salaries, and that apparently hasn't work. So, why not go back to a cost-minimazation model for football? Obviously, we could spend a lot less and not do much worse! So limit football scholarships to mainly in-state athletes and reduce coaching salaries to just above MAC levels. Then funnel the savings and the BTN $ into the non-revenue sports (so we're competitive in the "Director's Cup" standings), and let men's basketball feed itself, as it's well-equiped to do. Football would be at the bottom of the B1G every year, but we're there now anyway.

That would be the most financial prudent, risk-averse, way to run the Athletic Dept.

That would be an effective way of losing and a very good reason for people to stop being in the "John Purdue Club". Alumni are really tired of this losing formula Burke is running down there. I work with Purdue alumni from all over the country and I assure you they are sick and tired of it. It isn't even a matter of risk averse or risk return. It is a simply matter of Purdue is currently 8th or worse in coaching salary despite the increase 3 years ago. Michigan offers its head coach 7 million. Purdue pays barely 2 million. The person in charge of making the football hire is a swim team captain. How would he know how to hire a football coach. That explains why nobody wants to work with him. He cannot even relate to it. He is a law school graduate from Chicago who went to work in corporate. It is amazing this guy ever got involved with Purdue sports at all. He needs ousted. A football coach needs to be the AD. That is a person other football coaches will work with. That is a person that can understand the larger macro issues in running such a program. Like it or not, Purdue is a big ten school and football is the biggest event which funds all the others. Burke needs fired. Burke does not understand football. And football is the elephant in the room. Football is the sugardaddy. And Burke is an ineffective AD if he can't deal with the biggest sporting event at Purdue. Burke is a swimmer telling football coaches who daddy is. Think of a sniveling smug faced lawyer swim guy talking to a football coach about winning. That right there I'd pay money to see.

 

[Boilers1975]

Burke's next move should be to resign or commit Hari Kari

 

[BoilerBonz]

That would be an effective way of losing and a very good reason for people to stop being in the "John Purdue Club". Alumni are really tired of this losing formula Burke is running down there. I work with Purdue alumni from all over the country and I assure you they are sick and tired of it. It isn't even a matter of risk averse or risk return. It is a simply matter of Purdue is currently 8th or worse in coaching salary despite the increase 3 years ago. Michigan offers its head coach 7 million. Purdue pays barely 2 million. The person in charge of making the football hire is a swim team captain. How would he know how to hire a football coach. That explains why nobody wants to work with him. He cannot even relate to it. He is a law school graduate from Chicago who went to work in corporate. It is amazing this guy ever got involved with Purdue sports at all. He needs ousted. A football coach needs to be the AD. That is a person other football coaches will work with. That is a person that can understand the larger macro issues in running such a program. Like it or not, Purdue is a big ten school and football is the biggest event which funds all the others. Burke needs fired. Burke does not understand football. And football is the elephant in the room. Football is the sugardaddy. And Burke is an ineffective AD if he can't deal with the biggest sporting event at Purdue. Burke is a swimmer telling football coaches who daddy is. Think of a sniveling smug faced lawyer swim guy talking to a football coach about winning. That right there I'd pay money to see.

At Purdue, the difference in annual football ticket revenue between a good and bad program is probably about equal to Harbaugh's salary, $7M. So why bother taking the risk that an expensive staff will bring winning football? Minimize costs and the Purdue Athletic Dept is financially better off, in the short-term, anyway. And Purdue has obviously never thought long-term about football, regardless. Thus, poor football attendance won't motivate change. Mitch and MB will just tell us we're getting what we pay for! Nancy X has been telling us that for years, in so many words. JPC membership could still be motivated if basketball is good enough, which it should be.

 

[SIBoiler2]

That would be an effective way of losing and a very good reason for people to stop being in the "John Purdue Club". Alumni are really tired of this losing formula Burke is running down there. I work with Purdue alumni from all over the country and I assure you they are sick and tired of it. It isn't even a matter of risk averse or risk return. It is a simply matter of Purdue is currently 8th or worse in coaching salary despite the increase 3 years ago. Michigan offers its head coach 7 million. Purdue pays barely 2 million. The person in charge of making the football hire is a swim team captain. How would he know how to hire a football coach. That explains why nobody wants to work with him. He cannot even relate to it. He is a law school graduate from Chicago who went to work in corporate. It is amazing this guy ever got involved with Purdue sports at all. He needs ousted. A football coach needs to be the AD. That is a person other football coaches will work with. That is a person that can understand the larger macro issues in running such a program. Like it or not, Purdue is a big ten school and football is the biggest event which funds all the others. Burke needs fired. Burke does not understand football. And football is the elephant in the room. Football is the sugardaddy. And Burke is an ineffective AD if he can't deal with the biggest sporting event at Purdue. Burke is a swimmer telling football coaches who daddy is. Think of a sniveling smug faced lawyer swim guy talking to a football coach about winning. That right there I'd pay money to see.

If you still need a reason to quit the JPC you must be a non-revenue sports fan

 

[smurphy1868]

This is a "lost" program. Marginal changes will make no difference. Even if we clean house, like a battleship, it will takes years to turn it around. The sooner we bite the bullit, the sooner we can start making the turn.

 

[BoilerBiker]

has any program ever had a combo/dual hire of an AD and football coach?

 

[Foolmeoncefan]

has any program ever had a combo/dual hire of an AD and football coach?

Burke is a horrible athletic director. How is someone who has never played football supposed to be in charge of that department? What makes his skill set so unique? He has accomplished nothing even reminiscent of what even Marshall has in their current football program. The school gave this guy hundreds of millions of dollars under old leadership to get that football stadium in order. He held them hostage and put together a half baked farce. Our stadium looks like something between a giant press box over a high school stadium and a scoreboard that is so small people need binos just to see it from the other side. They broke construction in 2001. It is still unfinished 15 years later. He has been a pure disaster. And on Tiller, he was no jem of a hire either. I think Tiller did a damn good job and I like him a lot. But in the landscape it was pure luck we got him and if it was not for Drew Brees coming to Purdue Tiller too would have failed long before anything approaching a Rose Bowl. Brees worked miracles out there doing what it is he does. Purdue put together some of the worst defenses I have ever seen under Tiller until watching Hazell's team. Hazel's teams make Tiller's look like the 1970's Steelers on defense. However, if Tiller maybe had a little bit more of money during his tenure maybe he could have kept all those assistant coaches that left for other schools every year.

Football is the biggest revenue generating sport in college sports bar none. Burke is a swim guy with a smug overtone. Football coaches never worked well with him and never got anything they needed from him. He has to go. Purdue cannot complete against schools making 50 million dollars a year IN ANY SPORT if Purdue expects to make 4 million per year. Do the math. If Ohio state makes 50 million in one year and it takes Purdue 12.5 years to make what OSU makes in one how is that going to translate across the board? Football is where it is all at. It is the only daddy in town. And major efforts should be taken to maximize earning potential in this area where major amounts of money can be made with basic strategy and understanding.

Winning is everything in football. Fire the AD and hire someone who understands the importance of a winning football team. And bare minimum sees the horrible disaster having a repetitively longer-term losing one. NORTHWESTERN DOUBLES our football revenue. I don't want to hear excuses. FIRE BURKE NOW. Indiana DOUBLES our football revenue. Think of how that is going to look 5 years from now? Give Marshall's AD half of what Purdue gives Burke and it would be night and day from what we have now under Burke. He is the problem. Half of getting people to Purdue games is the tailgate. Go to any major college or NFL game and most people are tailgating having a good time. And Burke is out there punishing the tailgate scene. He has simply got to go for Purdue to have any chance having the kind of program of the type we want. Purdue is right in between Chicago and Indianapolis where most graduates are from and we can't even fill the stadium, predominantly because of the lousy product and ridiculous coaching staff currently in place.


Alabama makes more in royalties than the entire Purdue football operation. Burke's lack of initiative on football has set Purdue back decades. He needs fired and a very VERY careful hire needs to replace him. Wisconsin had the right idea when they put a football coach in charge of their sports. Everything suddenly turned around for them. That is the example we need to follow.

This kind of difference in money revenue explains very clearly why some schools will pay athletes off to attend and routinely break the rules. Having a cheat team go out there with paid off stars win a Rose Bowl who cares about after. The tradition was set. The people got exited and the money came in. Who cares if they get a few bowl game suspensions. They got 150 million over that time. Make me laugh. It is time to either force Burke's retirement at the end of this year or he is fired.

Football team profit (revenue minus expenses):

1. Michigan - $64,628,017

2. Ohio State - $40,387,038

3. Penn State - $36,530,345 (includes $5.8 million buyout from Texans for coach Bill O'Brien)

4. Nebraska - $36,319,663

5. Iowa - $33,993,770

6. Michigan State - $26,115,000

7. Wisconsin - $16,001,792

8. Illinois - $13,678,605

9. Minnesota - $12,064,173

10. Indiana - $8,667,357

11. Northwestern - $8,840,048

12. Maryland - $6,291,746

13. Purdue - $4,456,955

14. Rutgers - $1,996,038




Budget Budget
2010-2011 2011-2012
REVENUE
Visitor Guarantees 7,148,050 5,923,040
Concessions 1,960,000 1,715,000
Season Tix – Fac/Staff 6,868,000 6,009,500
Season Tix – Students 5,002,500 4,785,000
Public Ticket Sales 30,310,760 25,605,040
Postage & Handling 0 0
Television 10,700,000 11,415,300
Broadcasting 1,296,050 1,246,050
Guarantees 2,850,000 3,909,000
Miscellaneous 0 0
Revenue Total 51,839,260 48,761,850
The loss of one one game appears to cost Ohio State somewhere in the neighborhood of $3 million.

Per the information in the report, Alabama football generated $53.3 million surplus with revenues of $95.3 million. That’s not bad at all, and the revenue growth is 6.6 percent up from the previous year. New media deals helped increase profits as expected, but profits from royalties went up more than double from the previous year ($4.5 million compared to $1.3 million).

 

[boilermaker75]

has any program ever had a combo/dual hire of an AD and football coach?

O'Leary is head football coach and interim AD at UCF. I don't know if anyone has been hired into both jobs at once. Maybe Bear Bryant at Texas A&M and Alabama?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...coach-george-oleary-interim-athletic-director

 

[Redhotfill]

Coaching staff has definitely got to see the end has come, if Hazell doesn't resign , how can anyone have any respect for him. If he stays its all about money only, team will never be any good with him as coach

It is all about the $$, who else gets paid extra for doing media events? He must know by now his next coaching gig will be at a High School with an 8 man team. On the bright side Burke paid him the equivalent of more than 36 years salary of what he was making at Kent State to sign. Not to coach, not to win but to sign I'll be the contract doesn't require him to do jack because Burke was paniced when he didn't have anyone to replace HOPELESS. Note to Burke ------> MAKE DAMN SURE YOU HAVE SOMEONE INKED TO A CONTRACT BEFORE YOU FIRE THIS DUFUSS.

 

[Redhotfill]

Burke's next move should be to resign or commit Hari Kari

Too bad the smokestack is gone, I'd have paid good money to push him off it, if it was to help raise $$ for the new staff.

 

[Redhotfill]

Potential coaching candidates: Tom Herman (Houston), Justin Fuente (Memphis), Matt Rhule (Temple), and Matt Campbell (Toledo).

Here is an interesting article on Fuente....http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...eprint-for-rebuilding-a-college-football-team

Meh don't like any of them

 

[Hatter22]

Just replace him with a garden gnome. Won't cost much and same result.

 

[Redhotfill]

Burke is a horrible athletic director. How is someone who has never played football supposed to be in charge of that department? What makes his skill set so unique? He has accomplished nothing even reminiscent of what even Marshall has in their current football program. The school gave this guy hundreds of millions of dollars under old leadership to get that football stadium in order. He held them hostage and put together a half baked farce. Our stadium looks like something between a giant press box over a high school stadium and a scoreboard that is so small people need binos just to see it from the other side. They broke construction in 2001. It is still unfinished 15 years later. He has been a pure disaster.


Football team profit (revenue minus expenses):

1. Michigan - $64,628,017

2. Ohio State - $40,387,038

3. Penn State - $36,530,345 (includes $5.8 million buyout from Texans for coach Bill O'Brien)

4. Nebraska - $36,319,663

5. Iowa - $33,993,770

6. Michigan State - $26,115,000

7. Wisconsin - $16,001,792

8. Illinois - $13,678,605

9. Minnesota - $12,064,173

10. Indiana - $8,667,357

11. Northwestern - $8,840,048

12. Maryland - $6,291,746

13. Purdue - $4,456,955

14. Rutgers - $1,996,038




Budget Budget
2010-2011 2011-2012
REVENUE
Visitor Guarantees 7,148,050 5,923,040
Concessions 1,960,000 1,715,000
Season Tix – Fac/Staff 6,868,000 6,009,500
Season Tix – Students 5,002,500 4,785,000
Public Ticket Sales 30,310,760 25,605,040
Postage & Handling 0 0
Television 10,700,000 11,415,300
Broadcasting 1,296,050 1,246,050
Guarantees 2,850,000 3,909,000
Miscellaneous 0 0
Revenue Total 51,839,260 48,761,850
The loss of one one game appears to cost Ohio State somewhere in the neighborhood of $3 million.

Per the information in the report, Alabama football generated $53.3 million surplus with revenues of $95.3 million. That’s not bad at all, and the revenue growth is 6.6 percent up from the previous year. New media deals helped increase profits as expected, but profits from royalties went up more than double from the previous year ($4.5 million compared to $1.3 million).

GOOD GOD! IU MAKES DOUBLE WHAT WE MAKE!?!

 

[Foolmeoncefan]

GOOD GOD! IU MAKES DOUBLE WHAT WE MAKE!?!

YES. IU MORE THAN DOUBLED PURDUE FOOTBALL MONEY. IU QUADRUPLED OUR BASKETBALL REVENUE. BURKE HAS THRASHED OUR SPORTS PROGRAMS.

This information is two years old. It has gotten much worse from these numbers. This was published earlier in the year.

http://www.chicagofootball.com/2015...artments-rank-in-spending-profit-pay/a2quusm/


Football team profit (revenue minus expenses):

1. Michigan - $64,628,017

2. Ohio State - $40,387,038

3. Penn State - $36,530,345 (includes $5.8 million buyout from Texans for coach Bill O'Brien)

4. Nebraska - $36,319,663

5. Iowa - $33,993,770

6. Michigan State - $26,115,000

7. Wisconsin - $16,001,792

8. Illinois - $13,678,605

9. Minnesota - $12,064,173

10. Indiana - $8,667,357

11. Northwestern - $8,840,048

12. Maryland - $6,291,746

13. Purdue - $4,456,955

14. Rutgers - $1,996,038

Baskeball money is secondary

Football is clearly where the money is at, which is why Maryland was willing to drop its traditional basketball rivalries to jump to the Big Ten.

The best example of this is actually the University of Kentucky, clearly a basketball school in the big football-money driven Southeastern Conference.

Yet, in 2013-14, Kentucky actually made more than double the amount on its football program than its basketball program. Kentucky made $16.9 million on football and $7.5 million on men's basketball.

That being said, the Big Ten remains a powerhouse basketball league and several teams made more than Kentucky.

Men's basketball profit (revenue minus expenses):

1. Ohio State - $14,246,586

2. Wisconsin - $11,774,653

3. Indiana - $11,275,513

4. Illinois - $9,542,958

5. Michigan State - $8,474,302

6. Northwestern - $7,755,361

7. Maryland - $6,821,798

8. Michigan - $6,179,411

9. Penn State - $4,853,513

10. Iowa - $4,594,083

11. Purdue - $3,106,981

12. Minnesota - $2,127,533

13. Nebraska - $2,116,412

14. Rutgers - $1,202,291

 

[Heiner]

We need a pro team to buy out Hazell's contract

 

[SIBoiler2]

Just replace him with a garden gnome. Won't cost much and same result.

If you put a white turtleneck, vest and cap on it nobody would notice unless we started winning

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Well, you're assuming they are interested in replacing Burke now. I haven't ever gotten that feeling.

I think Hazell is 3 to 1 more likely to get fired than Burke, although I'm not sure either one is going to be gone this year.

 

[BoilerBiker]

O'Leary is head football coach and interim AD at UCF. I don't know if anyone has been hired into both jobs at once. Maybe Bear Bryant at Texas A&M and Alabama?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...coach-george-oleary-interim-athletic-director

I should have said AD and football coach hired as a package deal (2 separate guys).
since we need both, it would seem like a beneficial approach (?).

 

[PaBoiler78]

I should have said AD and football coach hired as a package deal (2 separate guys).
since we need both, it would seem like a beneficial approach (?).

Mike Norvell

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

Hell no. Don't let him f__ up our fine golf courses. Maybe cleaning out the locker room toilets at the CO-REC would be appropriate.

Latrine ready for inspection, sir!

 

[boilermaker75]

I should have said AD and football coach hired as a package deal (2 separate guys).
since we need both, it would seem like a beneficial approach (?).

Agreed, we need both replaced.

 

[indyogb]

YES. IU MORE THAN DOUBLED PURDUE FOOTBALL MONEY. IU QUADRUPLED OUR BASKETBALL REVENUE. BURKE HAS THRASHED OUR SPORTS PROGRAMS.

This information is two years old. It has gotten much worse from these numbers. This was published earlier in the year.

http://www.chicagofootball.com/2015...artments-rank-in-spending-profit-pay/a2quusm/


Football team profit (revenue minus expenses):

1. Michigan - $64,628,017

2. Ohio State - $40,387,038

3. Penn State - $36,530,345 (includes $5.8 million buyout from Texans for coach Bill O'Brien)

4. Nebraska - $36,319,663

5. Iowa - $33,993,770

6. Michigan State - $26,115,000

7. Wisconsin - $16,001,792

8. Illinois - $13,678,605

9. Minnesota - $12,064,173

10. Indiana - $8,667,357

11. Northwestern - $8,840,048

12. Maryland - $6,291,746

13. Purdue - $4,456,955

14. Rutgers - $1,996,038

Baskeball money is secondary

Football is clearly where the money is at, which is why Maryland was willing to drop its traditional basketball rivalries to jump to the Big Ten.

The best example of this is actually the University of Kentucky, clearly a basketball school in the big football-money driven Southeastern Conference.

Yet, in 2013-14, Kentucky actually made more than double the amount on its football program than its basketball program. Kentucky made $16.9 million on football and $7.5 million on men's basketball.

That being said, the Big Ten remains a powerhouse basketball league and several teams made more than Kentucky.

Men's basketball profit (revenue minus expenses):

1. Ohio State - $14,246,586

2. Wisconsin - $11,774,653

3. Indiana - $11,275,513

4. Illinois - $9,542,958

5. Michigan State - $8,474,302

6. Northwestern - $7,755,361

7. Maryland - $6,821,798

8. Michigan - $6,179,411

9. Penn State - $4,853,513

10. Iowa - $4,594,083

11. Purdue - $3,106,981

12. Minnesota - $2,127,533

13. Nebraska - $2,116,412

14. Rutgers - $1,202,291

We'll always have Rutgers

Assuming we don't win another game, will this place implode if Burke and Hazell are retained for another year? Personally, barring a miracle turnaround, I don't think I can watch (or listen, as the case may be) to another season of football like this.

 

[SIBoiler2]

We'll always have Rutgers

Assuming we don't win another game, will this place implode if Burke and Hazell are retained for another year? Personally, barring a miracle turnaround, I don't think I can watch (or listen, as the case may be) to another season of football like this.

I'm already resigned to another year of this ahead. I can't imagine a firing and hiring will occur until MB retires in 2017 then the university will dress it up by telling us "you spoke and we listened".

 

[boilermaker75]

I'm already resigned to another year of this ahead. I can't imagine a firing and hiring will occur until MB retires in 2017 then the university will dress it up by telling us "you spoke and we listened".

I would agree with your assessment of what will happen.