Bryce Austin
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Damn. I thought he would get some serious PT next year. That’s too bad.
Tis’ the season.
As Nat100 says, players are going have “the talk” with coaches soon.
Probably see at least 10 more players leave
As Nat100 says, players are going have “the talk” with coaches soon.
Probably see at least 10 more players leave
Seems like he was getting some playing time and was in the 2 deeps (maybe not?). Kind of surprised to see this, although maybe he feels he can't start over Johnson/Deen/Lewis.
Next year would be his third year at Purdue including his red shirt year and he still was not projected to be a starter. He’s a huge loss from a depth perspective, but we are fortunate to have other defensive linemen who have stepped up, developed and are better. If you can’t start by your third year, you never will.
With the new transfer portal rules, it is going to be hard to keep track of who and who is not on the team each year, especially when it comes to players that were not on the 2 deep
I liked Austin as a recruit. But other players developed more. We are starting to develop some depth on our defense line. Sad to see him go. But ultimately it was his decision. I have to believe many others will receive the coach’s talk. Some will leave like Austin and Plummer. Some will accept the fact their future will be as a backup role player. And a couple may step up their game. Successful teams do not waste 3 years developing players.
So if the logic that players can leave because coaches do how does that apply when the Coaches don't leave. The Portal as implemented is terrible and needs to be revisited asap. Change the NLI to a two year binding agreement unless a Head Coach or your position Coach leaves and after two years a player can enter the Portal one time with no loss of eligibility unless the Head or Position Coach at their new school leaves.
My bet is more Football Coaches will start burning all 1st year players eligibility by playing them on special teams if this keeps up!
My bet is more Football Coaches will start burning all 1st year players eligibility by playing them on special teams if this keeps up!
Set your expectations like this.. if we can go out and get cal’s RB don’t be hurt when we lose a guy like this to the portal …
Your way only works if you can replace what you lost plus the Cal Transfer was a Graduate one not a Portal one! Tough to recruit when you can never be sure when a player will enter the Portal under the current rules. More Coaches publicly and privately hate how the implementation of this has rolled out. My bet is there will be changes!
Ok there are other players we will pick up who will sting to the team that lost them. Pick up better than you lose.. keep your high school recruiting strong
This will also require a change of thinking.. some kids who are promising may be told “you’re only a RS fr. you haven’t been in the weight room long enough and our table says you need x more time.” And they may be like “oh that’s what you and everyone on KC thinks huh? Yeah I’m out so have fun with that..”
As Painter said on Dakich recently the portal does nothing to help players develop and/or strengthen their character. All it does is make it easier to get out when things get a little tough. I’m 72, always taking the easy path may not be the best path. As Painter said about Eastern and Haarms, they may have a Purdue degree but they’re not Boilermakers.
I doubt he will be transferring up.
This is a loss from the perspective of what he could have been, but probably not from the perspective of what he actually going to be as a player in year 3.
maybe goes to one of the better MAC programs, still would love for us to get Jared Vearse ( he's an edge)
Unless he can complete a pass greater than 10 yards, he saw the handwriting on the wall.
the cover story said it all. he was coming into his third year at Purdue and he was still not a projected starter. and we have Strickland coming in who will most likely play somewhere on the line as a true freshman. he saw his future at purdue as being a back-up.
I hate the portal system because it kills your development and depth. Sometimes it's nice to keep players around that you have developed to provide experience and depth for your team. but a lot of players don't want to be roll players, and they still have their pro dreams. and they think if they play somewhere else those dreams will come true.
I've watched a lot of purdue players leave to play elsewhere. I know of very few who ever were more successful elsewhere. Kyle Macy, Dan Palombizio. So many others left basketball and football and were never as good.
I'd love to see players stay and have a deep bench. but that's not how the players see it.
I hate the portal system because it kills your development and depth. Sometimes it's nice to keep players around that you have developed to provide experience and depth for your team. but a lot of players don't want to be roll players, and they still have their pro dreams. and they think if they play somewhere else those dreams will come true.
I've watched a lot of purdue players leave to play elsewhere. I know of very few who ever were more successful elsewhere. Kyle Macy, Dan Palombizio. So many others left basketball and football and were never as good.
I'd love to see players stay and have a deep bench. but that's not how the players see it.
I've seen Brohm run a lot of trick plays, but having your nose tackle passing downfield would certainly take the cake.
I think you’re thinking of the wrong Austin. I’m referring to the DT
I’ll raise you guys.. with Beth mowins calling the plays “behiiiiiiind the liiiiiiiiine!!” And Matt Millen and Kelly stouffer analyzing
That statement that he made was outstanding...accurate as well...one of my favorite things that he has said, and, he says a lot of things that I really respect and enjoy.
Confident that if thought it might work or that he could get it to work, it would be on the table.
The portal is what it is. They took away the grad transfer rule and now you just get 1 without having to sit out. Seems fair to me.
The kids who blame their issues on someone else will find out quickly it’s not the case.
It also gives genuinely good kids and players the opportunity to showcase their skills at a program that fits their level of play…either a G5 or lower division stud who wants a shot at P5 football or a kid who couldn’t crack 2 deeps at a P5 but goes on to contribute at a G5.
I can tell how old a poster is on here by how much they bitch about the transfer portal. The opportunities go both ways and IMO if schools are no longer required to give 4 year scholarships than why are kids bound to schools by transfer penalties? Coaches don’t have to sit out a year when they go to a new program….why should the players?
The kids who blame their issues on someone else will find out quickly it’s not the case.
It also gives genuinely good kids and players the opportunity to showcase their skills at a program that fits their level of play…either a G5 or lower division stud who wants a shot at P5 football or a kid who couldn’t crack 2 deeps at a P5 but goes on to contribute at a G5.
I can tell how old a poster is on here by how much they bitch about the transfer portal. The opportunities go both ways and IMO if schools are no longer required to give 4 year scholarships than why are kids bound to schools by transfer penalties? Coaches don’t have to sit out a year when they go to a new program….why should the players?
Coaches are employees, and coaching is their chosen career. Let's stop putting forward this absurd comparison between a student athlete, and a professional coach feeding his family and strengthening his experience and resume'.
As to your other comment about the old posters, with age comes wisdom. For previous (and wiser) younger generations, they actually valued input from those their senior.
So you think players should be beholden to a school for 4-5 years…even though the school doesn’t have to honor their scholarship for more than a single year AND their coaches can leave at any time? That makes no sense and has no fairness to it. That lends a lot of credence to the arguement that players are being “used” by schools. That, to me, is part of why kids are allowed a free transfer now.
Kids make mistakes and make bad choices. They shouldn’t be allowed to move to what they see as a better situation? It works 2 ways here too. Purdue has pushed out plenty of kids that wouldn’t play a down here and a free transfer has allowed them to go to a place they can actually get on the field and contribute.
This old, “You should see it out” mentality doesn’t apply to a “What have you done for me lately” world. Especially when the coaches ask that question just as much as the kids.
First paragraph: No. There are (and have always been) stipulations for leaving... and I believe you need to check the facts on your assertion on a school not offering scholarships for more than a single year. Again, you're trying to equate the career of coaching to that of a student athlete playing a sport in exchange for a tuition-free education. That doesn't help your case (in fact, it makes it weaker).
Yes, kids make mistakes. We all do, even when (in the case of these "kids") they do so with the counsel of parents and/or guardians. Of course they should be allowed to move. They always have been, which I alluded to above.
Again, you keep referencing "old", as if that's some disqualifier. It's not, and it's not helping your case like you think it is. What's more, nobody I've seen is saying "see it out". (However, Painter made a hell of an argument for that in a recent video.)
Again... yes, we all make mistakes. Sometimes the painful lessons from those mistakes help prevent us from making even more painful mistakes later in life. I'd love to give you a world free of those painful mistakes, but that's just not reality. What's more, life is an absolute B*TCH when you move out of the cushy world as a student athlete, and into the real world when "adulting" is even more painful.
Most schools “offer” 4 year scholarships. Most stipulate they can be terminated at any time for most any reason. Where’s the fairness in that?
Im not trying to equate a coach vs player here. I’m arguing that a player should be allowed the same freedom here…to be able to leave and continue their career seamlessly, just like a coach. I think that because a player is NOT receiving money makes it all the more sketchy as to them being tied to the school when the school is not tied to them.
I don’t keep referencing old…but your viewpoint is incredibly dated and disqualifies what actually goes on in the world of CFB recruiting. You believed the lie of a millionaire who told you what you wanted to hear to get you on campus? You thought a certain city/campus was a good fit and it’s actually not? Your coach moves on and you have such a great relationship you’d like to follow them? Conditions within a program make it so you don’t feel valued or safe being there?
Why do any of those situations warrant you as a player having to sit out for a year while the people who helped put you in those situations get to move freely with no penalty?
I think the system as it exists now is as fair as it will get. It’s not free agency…it’s a restart. One get out of jail free card to start new. To elevate yourself. To elevate your team. To move to a situation where you can learn and grow better. This free transfer thing is benefitting Purdue way more than its hurting us. How can you think this is a bad thing?
Well, first, if your argument is "fairness", that's a moving target... an emotional target.
And, yes, you were equating a coach and a player. That was exactly what you did.
What's more, you have no idea if my viewpoint is "incredibly dated", as I've not shared with you what my viewpoint is.
Your position now seems to be nothing more than the recruiting process is evil. That's a losing argument. These student athletes are pampered, adored, (now) offered money ON TOP OF the table, fly all over the country to compete (I can go on). Nah. They're not victims.
Student athletes willingly sign scholarships with conditions: A tuition-free education, in exchange for playing a sport with all the perks mentioned (and more). It's not unreasonable for the schools and people (boosters, alum, etc.) who are putting up the money for said tuition-free education (John Purdue Club) to expect a commitment.
Heck, even those evil coaches sign contracts with caveats and restrictions.
There's absolutely zero reason to think "the system as it exists now is as fair as it will get". One, "fairness" is an irrelevant emotional argument. Two, "the system" continues to move in one direction: student athletes for hire. Not sure why anyone would think that's a good thing, yet it continues to accelerate in that direction.
Be careful what you wish for. You're getting it, and it's a slow, steady decay.
Why aren't they Boilermakers? What's the difference between them and Carsen, G Rob, or Ivey. I would assume Ivey won't have a degree after this year and I'm sure we'll all claim him as a Boiler (including Painter) when he's doing his thing in the NBA.
How many of us would be eager to sign a 4 year contract with a non compete that wouldn't allow us to work in our profession for a year if we left? Wasn't that essentially what athletes were doing before the rules change?
I've never quite got the "sticking it out" thing. If your in a bad position, recognize it and move on. The key is making the right decision given the circumstances. The coaches don't owe playing time to anyone and if the player is in a bad situation I don't fault them for leaving.
I agree with you. Sticking it out and being loyal benefits the organization, not the individual. If you can better your circumstance elsewhere, go for it
Here’s my biggest thing. Take a top 250 player. Always been the best guy on the field. Never HAD to work too hard to be the man because they are so physically gifted. They get to college and for 1 of many/any reasons they feel like “oh, I’m great and this place isn’t working for me…I’m never going to get a shot here”
No better way to find out it WAS you and that you now have to work harder than you were to contribute. OR, you flame out and CFB just doesn’t work for you. Either way the transfer portal gives you a shot to better your career or find a better landing place without interrupting your trajectory and timeline.
AND…sometimes it isn’t you. You’re right and there were coaches/culture/bias holding you back and you can contribute at the level you want. It was the biggest shame that those kids had to put their careers on pause for a year For the lies/ineffectiveness of adults they were supposed to trust.
That first paragraph is truly beginning to illustrate the point. Most (all?) these student athletes have always been told how great they are. Many have always been the best on the field/court.
What happens in life when that's no longer the case? Well, we've seen it with too many student athletes who have an inability to cope when they enter the real world.
What's more, the narrative has been shifted from "student athlete" to .... "athlete". Therein lies the true problem. (So much more could be said on that one.)
With all that said, I'm not sure how the ability to transfer only once is fair. Does it really allow someone to truly find out "it wasn't you"? Open it up. Give any player any ability to transfer as many times as they like. It's only fair.
Pretty hard to be a top 250 player without having to work too hard. Talent only gets you so far even at the high school level.
I won’t name names, but there’s a player on our roster this applies to 100%. If he doesn’t play this year he’s either not motivated or he’s not good and the ranking was never accurate to begin. He looks like an all world player BTW. Notice I said looks….
Bell and Karlaftis were both top 150.
Milton Wright another top 200 guy I believe.
I think Faucheaux and a DE from that class were top 250 guys as well.
But yes…we have a Transfer who was a top 250 guy coming out of high school.
