Have you read Passion Play? Early on, gene did lots of recruiting. Kendrick didn't come on until 1989.
Again, I see that you won't, or can't, explain how only CMPs recruiting hardships count, but none of GKs do.
You just made my point. It's ALL relative. Keady had just as many strong adversaries In the 80s as Painter does now. And all the coaches are dealing with the same challenges now. Back then, you still had UK, Louisville, UNC, etc, coming in and getting top players out of the state. And it's not like you have 50 top instate prospects every year like Texas HS football does: there are on average 3 or 4 top players, at most. With 15 Scholarships, Knight could easily sign that many a year, so GK had to fight like crazy to get 1 or 2. Crean doesn't have anywhere near the same recruiting impact instate now that Knight did then. And the state of IU basketball couldn't have been any different when Painter came in, versus when Keady came in. The Sampson tire fire and the ensuing probation gave Painter a HUGE advantage.
This is like a slap in the face to our current players. So Matt's Recruiting woes are he can't recruit therefore the roster we have is terrible? This is more like fans that don't get the players they think we are entitled to or should be ours. The grass is always greener for both recruits and fans alike if they so choose to believe.
What are you talking about? I said nothing of the sort. Go back and read the thread.
And that's besides the point. I don't care how CMP recruits good players, whether he does it himself or if he hires Santa Claus and the Easter bunny to do it for him. Just get it done.
You misunderstand. Someone said GK wasn't a good recruiter because Kendrick was doing most of it. My point was, I don't care if the head coach is doing all the recruiting, or none of it. Just get it done.
This doesn't get enough attention. I think when we lose out on a recruit to MSU, we need to remember that MSU is one of these few programs that you mentioned. I hate Izzo, but he is very good at his job.
The "internet" is just as much an as Advantage for CMP as a disadvantage. That, combined with a much bigger recruiting budget than GK ever had, allows CMP to go after more players. He can scout them from
Yes and it also helps painter find out about a kid in Texas, or middle of nowhere Alabama, that you wouldn't have back in the 80s . And he has a bigger budget to go see those kids more often.
Which area attracts all of the major programs and has for years, not to mention the number of top programs within driving distance of the recruits. Now we have national conference networks so the family can watch them wherever they play.
After our early round ncaa exits, some have made the argument (pro painter guys) that in addition to guard play, our roster lacked the necessary athleticism, versatility, etc in order to compete.
After the little Rock loss,
Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio were all turning out more D1 prospects than Indiana back then. Indiana was lucky to produce 4 B1G level players a year back then, and Knight was going to get 2-3 of them.
I said "top players", scroll up. There are probably 20 D1 players a year, maybe more, but only a handful that can help win B1G championships, win in the NCAAs, though I know you don't put a high priority on that sort of thing.
Keady came to Purdue in 1981. Kendrick was still playing overseas for close to ten years before he joined the staff at Purdue and Lavin was also on that staff.
I dint think Weber gets nearly enough credit for his part in our success. The same goes for Jay Price.
