Brohm's 2019 recruiting class will be the one that puts Purdue back on the CFB map. It will be a BIG time class!
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Brohm got this train rolling and kids are gonna want to jump on board!!!!
I am hoping that Moore can be flipped from Texas. He would be incredible in our offense.
Moore is in the 2018 class but I am with you on that. Hope he flips to Purdue. Would also like to see us get Brents out of Louisville. Seems like Coach Brohm has caught the attention of a lot of talented players in the 2019 class. I would love to see Karliftas commit to get the ball rolling. With Trinity being as good a program as they are and Brohm having played there, I would love to see him scoop up some of their players.
I believe our recruiting will pick up back to respectability and become a continual top 40 class. The only sad part is we had many players this year taking a wait and see approach and our class is already almost filled up! I have to believe we'll see the addition of more juco players rather than filling up the class with lesser talent! One of the problems you face with back to back 25 member classes is that the follow up classes will be a lot smaller unless you either have a lot of attrition or you mix in transfers and juco players!
And I will give Brohm credit for realizing this as by adding all his juco and transfers, he plugged some holes with quick fixes while being able to allow for a nice sized recruiting class in the future! Something that would kill the momentum he has created is if next year's recruiting class was 15 or less! Something we don't discuss or consider very much is that not every class can be 20-25 athletes!
And I will give Brohm credit for realizing this as by adding all his juco and transfers, he plugged some holes with quick fixes while being able to allow for a nice sized recruiting class in the future! Something that would kill the momentum he has created is if next year's recruiting class was 15 or less! Something we don't discuss or consider very much is that not every class can be 20-25 athletes!
I am sure recruits will take notice and want to come to Purdue. It's amazing what he has done with what he has.
Continual top 40 class? That's what you want to see? Brohm is targeting four and five star players. He has no interest in being outside the top 25, but for now he is relying on his scouting and understanding what the team needs. If Brohm stays for the length of his contract, we should be habitual top 25 classes. Players see what numbers his low ranked players are putting up. Once he starts landing top linemen to go with the skill positions, Purdue should be a regular top 25 team.
Look at it this way, the Midwest could open up with traditional powerhouses taking a step back. Purdue has the coach to fill right in. I am shocked Louisville didn't fire Patrino last year, and his players have looked so undisciplined and unprepared. I don't think they can pull Brohm yet with a 6 year contract on the hook. Notre Dame was a hot mess last year and only looks average. IU is right at a .500 team. Michigan's offense has been awful. OSU has been struggling mightily. MSU was terrible last year and looks average this year. Those are the traditional Midwest power houses and Brohm appears to have the inside track on stealing away some of those players.
In the next four years, if Brohm Stays, we should see Purdue land a top 10 class. Upgraded facilities and incredible coaching staff. If Purdue finds a way to beat Michigan and makes a run in the Big Ten, that all speeds up. CJB is still recruiting and there are some big time players still available. He still has some players he will need to weed out, but he has been outstanding in personnel management. This '19 class could be really dang special if he lands a bunch of the local four star talent he has been after. I get all the feels just thinking about it.
I think you all are getting way ahead of yourselves. We lost to a mediocre Louisville team Beat and middle of the pac MAC team and beat a terrible SEC team. I love they way the team plays but we will see in the next few weeks if it's luck and bad teams or if we are that much improved. JMO
I believe that mediocre team you referenced will finish in the Top 25, Clemson is a monster and with FSU using a new QB should only stumble once this year if they do!
I think we would beat Louisville if we would play them now. Our team is starting to believe in themselves and buy into Brohm's philosophy. Same thing Tiller did with the 1997 team.
Purdue lost their first game. You can see the improvement after every week. Louisville also has the best player on the country. Last year everybody joked that Purdue would lost by 40. Purdue was predicted to lose to Missouri by 7. Purdue made them look terrible.
There is a tangible difference between this team and how they are coached and play that I haven't seen since 2004-2005 ish. I expect Purdue to have a chance to beat every team they play. He turned around a program that was circling the drain.
We may be over-hyping, but he has already garnered national attention for what he has done with where this program was.
And no one has signed a LOI yet for 2018...he could flip a couple!
I will agree with that statement to a degree! Brohm could very well flip a few players. However, I highly doubt he loses any of his current recruits! and he only has room this year to add 4-5 more recruits. This would suggest he's already finished recruiting several positions! So even if players are out there, we can only flip so many
A class rating is calculated both on quality and quantity! A lot of this year's ranking is based on quantity as our average player ranking is not high! I'm going to assume if we have two very big classes back to back, we may have 1-2 years of around 15 recruits. If those smaller classes are also in the top 40, it will be considered a decent class! Take a look at the top 40! Those are some very good teams! There is a difference in targeting 4 and 5 star players and signing them ! Just ask Painter!
I'm not gonna make any speculations on future recruiting class ranks, but I do think recruiting will pick up if we continue down the path we have started this year. Maybe some of us are a little ahead of ourselves, but for the first time in a long time Purdue has been fun to watch and it's great to have fans excited again. Even the national media has picked up on it and I am sure the players we are recruiting have as well. There is a buzz out there surrounding our program so far. Unless we loose some guys to injury, no team will blow us out this year with the way we are playing, and we just may win some more games the folks thought we would loose. That will help Brohm with recruiting.
There will always be a couple of players who move on for a variety of reasons at season's end!
Of course it will pick up. And I think the first sign will be that begin to keep more Indiana kids at home. I went to the North Central game on Friday and saw DJ Johnson (Iowa commit) hit a Center Grove receiver a ton and intercept the ball. This kid ought to be going to Purdue.
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There is a tangible difference between this team and how they are coached and play that I haven't seen since 2004-2005 ish. I expect Purdue to have a chance to beat every team they play. He turned around a program that was circling the drain.
We may be over-hyping, but he has already garnered national attention for what he has done with where this program was.[/QUOTE]
Morgan Burke's pride stopped him from admitting his last hire was a complete flop. Morgan cost the university untold millions in lost revenue and the program precious rebuilding time. You can see how these guys carry themselves on the field they have a different mindset than the Haznut teams. I hope the Haznut cool-aid has finally worn off. Funny I don't hear that "we have to review film," BS anymore. Coach Brohm actually knows WTF he is doing and seems determined to win. Hats off to him and his staff! I wish him the best and hope he can win more games in his first year than DH did in his first three, do I expect it no, is it possible YES!
There is a tangible difference between this team and how they are coached and play that I haven't seen since 2004-2005 ish. I expect Purdue to have a chance to beat every team they play. He turned around a program that was circling the drain.
We may be over-hyping, but he has already garnered national attention for what he has done with where this program was.[/QUOTE]
Morgan Burke's pride stopped him from admitting his last hire was a complete flop. Morgan cost the university untold millions in lost revenue and the program precious rebuilding time. You can see how these guys carry themselves on the field they have a different mindset than the Haznut teams. I hope the Haznut cool-aid has finally worn off. Funny I don't hear that "we have to review film," BS anymore. Coach Brohm actually knows WTF he is doing and seems determined to win. Hats off to him and his staff! I wish him the best and hope he can win more games in his first year than DH did in his first three, do I expect it no, is it possible YES!
Morgan Burke's pride stopped him from admitting his last hire was a complete flop. Morgan cost the university untold millions in lost revenue and the program precious rebuilding time. You can see how these guys carry themselves on the field they have a different mindset than the Haznut teams. I hope the Haznut cool-aid has finally worn off. Funny I don't hear that "we have to review film," BS anymore. Coach Brohm actually knows WTF he is doing and seems determined to win. Hats off to him and his staff! I wish him the best and hope he can win more games in his first year than DH did in his first three, do I expect it no, is it possible YES![/QUOTE]
Wasn't just his last hire. Burke swung and missed badly on both Hope and Hazell. Two really terrible hires right in a row. On top of this stupidity, he underfunds football driving us to the bottom of the Big Ten. Not surprisingly, the stadium quickly empties and ticket revenue craters.
Then Mitch takes over and hires a quality AD who understands which sports drive the revenue. Bobinski then makes the hire of the year in Brohm.
Wasn't just his last hire. Burke swung and missed badly on both Hope and Hazell. Two really terrible hires right in a row. On top of this stupidity, he underfunds football driving us to the bottom of the Big Ten. Not surprisingly, the stadium quickly empties and ticket revenue craters.
Then Mitch takes over and hires a quality AD who understands which sports drive the revenue. Bobinski then makes the hire of the year in Brohm.[/QUOTE]
I will get a lot of flack for this, and that is OK. But, ADMB made a good hire in Hope, but underfunded him so badly and poached Hope's resources so badly that Hope couldn't do any better than he did. Remember, he was still going to bowl games and our team would have been much better and won more if ADMB had helped Hope as we see now with our current AD and football staff. Predicting the current football staff will do way better than Hope with proper funds and resources remains to be seen. But I understand the anticipation is exciting and worth the conversation.
Hazell was clearly a bad hire. It is not clear that you can say rhat about Hope. I do believe that Brohm is better than Hope.
However, Hope was operating with a different and much smaller budget than his two successors. Thus, comparisons are not as clear cut. In many ways, the incompetent Burke (and Admin) screwed Hope over by not giving him what he needed to be succesful and then blaming him for failure.
However, Hope was operating with a different and much smaller budget than his two successors. Thus, comparisons are not as clear cut. In many ways, the incompetent Burke (and Admin) screwed Hope over by not giving him what he needed to be succesful and then blaming him for failure.
That's really not true.
Hazell was a respectable hire at that time. And Burke put together a search committee to help with that process.
Hazell had a great resume, had tremendous success at a mid-major doormat, and (this has to be said) we were hiring a black coach with that background.
On the face, it had all the makings of a VERY solid hire.
Hazell had one good year at a mid major! He also had one of the worst years a coach could ever experience at that same school! While that's acceptable at a mid major, because nobody noticed or cared, it's not acceptable at power 5 school! Rebuilding doesn't mean going 1-11 to work out the kinks! And the cupboard wasn't as bare as he tried to paint it.
Hope does not deserve to get mentioned in the same breath as Hazell. He was making bowl games and beating IU while being handicapped by Burke when he was let go.
Also Hope was one of the people Brohm reached out to when considering the Purdue job and I believe it was reported that he strongly encouraged him to take it.
Also Hope was one of the people Brohm reached out to when considering the Purdue job and I believe it was reported that he strongly encouraged him to take it.
Basically burke hired a young, up and coming coach, which I was ok with. but he gave him an experienced coach's salary and extended contract , which I felt was financially stupid. I would have liked Hazell a lot better if he was given a 3 year salary at about the level Hope was given, and then if successful, he could be given an extension and substantial increase. And I would have fired him after the first year. He was brought in to elevate our team to be better than hope, not dismantle it and start from scratch like he did at his previous gig.
Yeah, hope got railroaded. No support while he was here and then let go for "better" after 2 bowls in a row. He wasn't awesome, but he wasn't as awful as he was made out to be.
I didn't like hope. But I liked Hazell a lot less for blaming hope of leaving him a bare cupboard and doing nothing during the off season and just expecting players to come to Purdue. being a successful head coach is more than coaching 12 games. There was a coach in a championship bow l game who was asked the question, so what are you going to do now coach? And his reply was I'm going to take tomorrow off, and then get back to work, study some film, meet recruits and start working to be successful for next year. that coach probably had zero home life, but he was a very successful coach. In watching Hazell, he did very little in the off seasons, and said recruits will commit during the season as part of their official visits. And to his shock, they never came. Hazell didn't have a clue what the off-season was about. and what his responsibilities as a head coach should be at a power five school. he was a great person, highly intelligent, but he just didn't have that passion and desire to win. he accepted coming close as being good enough.
I think you might find that the "under funding" originated at the Cordova level, not at the Burke level. Burke did what he had to at the request of the administration. He has plenty to atone for, but maybe not the under funding.
If Brohm can indeed turn this Train in the right direction, all the mistakes from the previous hire will be history, even tho, there is talent left from DH2, he just couldn't figure out how to use it. We certainly lose a decent crop of Seniors this year which will be difficult to replace, but believing Brohm to figure it all out. If we can land 2 Top 25 classes back-to-back, lookout!!
But he was not a good fit with his style of play for Purdue. Too bad the all smart search committee didn't consider that.
I agree with the Cordova reference, but in the end, ADMB gets the credit. I didn't like her. She believed in Global Warming. (chew on that one)
All the previous mistake lead to hiring CJB. If those never happened, he would not be at Purdue. I don't like the idea of wasted funds and prestige for these 5 years, but maybe it was best.
I can only imagine what a guy like Danny Hope really thinks about a guy like Morgan Burke.
Ha I don't think you have to let your imagination wonder too far to figure that out.
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