I like it but only if we have the right QB- based on what I know about Blough he'd be at his best in a hurry-up type offense. I wonder if this indicates the staff knows he's our best QB prospect?? Or is the hurry up just a better system aginst modern defenses?
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I dont think so Chop.
I read an article a week or two about how we actually ran a good portion of this last year towards the end, except they were doing things like flipping sides of the field for the receivers to slow down/negate the effect of the hurry up.
Truthfully, I didnt realize or it didnt register with me in long term memory they were running hurry up.
Plus the coaches keep saying things to minimize the role of hurry up. Makes me think they either want to wait till they get matchups they like or just run it randomly.
I read an article a week or two about how we actually ran a good portion of this last year towards the end, except they were doing things like flipping sides of the field for the receivers to slow down/negate the effect of the hurry up.
Truthfully, I didnt realize or it didnt register with me in long term memory they were running hurry up.
Plus the coaches keep saying things to minimize the role of hurry up. Makes me think they either want to wait till they get matchups they like or just run it randomly.
good question- my impression of him - so far - is that he's relentless field general type. the other guys, no-doubt talented, i think are more pocket passer type players. but that's half of the reason. i also think Hazell is a coach who will change his system to match his personal, that is, until we're out of the cellar.
You had me until "i also think Hazell is a coach who will change his system to match his personal, that is, until we're out of the cellar", that is something he hasn't done! He still is in the mode of figuring who his QB and what that QB can do! We have switched or changed offenses and QB each year with very little success...are we going for the Hat Trick in 2015? I am beginning to think he doesn't know how to pick a QB and an Offense to match his personnel...hope I am wrong!
Nat,
From the mighty 2ish articles I have read, it seems like the hurry up is more about getting guys fatigued and causing mistakes by not giving the defense time to line up, communicate, and audible.
Are you saying something different than this?
From the mighty 2ish articles I have read, it seems like the hurry up is more about getting guys fatigued and causing mistakes by not giving the defense time to line up, communicate, and audible.
Are you saying something different than this?
No.
My worry is we struggle enough with execution as is. What is adding a stressor going to do
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Guys the bottom line is hAzell sucks. This endless bs about qbs is absurd. We have more talent at that position than any other spot.
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Is there talent at the QB position? Definitely, but talent doesn't always equate to production on the field. That really doesn't always translate to production on the field when the offensive line in Hazel's first year was abysmal and last year players still seemed to be pushing against the grain at times. In all honesty, and I know many on here are tired of hearing about Danny Hope, but his coaching and lack of ability to sustain a program in the long term with clear vision and goals really hurt in the short term of Coach Hazel's tenure here.
I have been to a spring practice already and I will say this:
Etling: Has talent but seems so wrapped up in not making mistakes that he rarely takes any chances down the field. I don't care how talented you are, if you aren't willing to throw the ball in to tight windows and allow your playmakers to make plays down the field, you aren't going to be successful. He also lacks true gusto and raw leadership qualities. Sure, working hard and being the first in and last out sets you up to be a leader...but if you don't command respect and demand your peers work up to your level, you won't lead men that are 18-24. Michael Jordan, beyond being the most intense to ever play basketball DEMANDED those around him play at his level. Scottie Pippen wouldn't have been Scottie Pippen without Michael Jordan DEMANDING that he be like him in ever facet.
Appleby: Seems to truly have the command of his peers around him but seems to be hurt by just a lack of true top flight ability. Sub-par arm strength and at times wild attempts to make a play seem to even out his above average command and respect. Most of those on the team that give him that respect seem to do so not only because he works hard but that he demands that respect being the QB of a power 5 school.
Blough and Sindelar: It is hard to make a determination of these two as I have only seen them once a piece but Blough seems to be the most athletic of the 4 QB's but also the least likely to wow you physically. Very short and with an arm I would liken to that of Etling's, he makes mistakes (as most young QB's do) that this team can't really afford to have at times next season. Sindelar is all the qualities of the three previous in one package and as Stacy said in the chat yesterday (and I mentioned in my practice summary from Thursday), had Sindelar not blown his knee out he might have walked away with the job this spring because he seems to just be that much better at this point than the others. He has a top flight arm, height, and can push the ball down the field with ease. As Stacy already said, if he can get healthy enough by the start of summer workouts and camp, he could conceivably make a push to start this year. Unless he comes out guns blazing I doubt he takes the job from Appleby but he could if Appleby struggles or gets hurt.
I have been to a spring practice already and I will say this:
Etling: Has talent but seems so wrapped up in not making mistakes that he rarely takes any chances down the field. I don't care how talented you are, if you aren't willing to throw the ball in to tight windows and allow your playmakers to make plays down the field, you aren't going to be successful. He also lacks true gusto and raw leadership qualities. Sure, working hard and being the first in and last out sets you up to be a leader...but if you don't command respect and demand your peers work up to your level, you won't lead men that are 18-24. Michael Jordan, beyond being the most intense to ever play basketball DEMANDED those around him play at his level. Scottie Pippen wouldn't have been Scottie Pippen without Michael Jordan DEMANDING that he be like him in ever facet.
Appleby: Seems to truly have the command of his peers around him but seems to be hurt by just a lack of true top flight ability. Sub-par arm strength and at times wild attempts to make a play seem to even out his above average command and respect. Most of those on the team that give him that respect seem to do so not only because he works hard but that he demands that respect being the QB of a power 5 school.
Blough and Sindelar: It is hard to make a determination of these two as I have only seen them once a piece but Blough seems to be the most athletic of the 4 QB's but also the least likely to wow you physically. Very short and with an arm I would liken to that of Etling's, he makes mistakes (as most young QB's do) that this team can't really afford to have at times next season. Sindelar is all the qualities of the three previous in one package and as Stacy said in the chat yesterday (and I mentioned in my practice summary from Thursday), had Sindelar not blown his knee out he might have walked away with the job this spring because he seems to just be that much better at this point than the others. He has a top flight arm, height, and can push the ball down the field with ease. As Stacy already said, if he can get healthy enough by the start of summer workouts and camp, he could conceivably make a push to start this year. Unless he comes out guns blazing I doubt he takes the job from Appleby but he could if Appleby struggles or gets hurt.
Very nice analysis of the QB's! Here's hoping Purdue gets it right by the end of the Spring Practice so that whomever the QB is spends most of his time with the first team and the Offensive Coaches can develop a system around what he and the first team can and must do all summer and fall to WIN!
something I don't understand is why other teams such as Indiana this past season, bring in 3rd string QB and do ok against Purdue but we seem to be hesitant to play a 2nd or 3rd string, just trying to understand why that is, to me the QB's at Purdue have talent as they were rated pretty high when recruited
Only four possible answers to that one a) we did a poor job of selecting the QB's b) we do a poor job of coaching the QB's c) we run the incorrect type of offense and plays to match the QB and/or d) we have a poor surrounding cast of players around the QB.
THats great and all about Hope, but 3 qbs so far regress to the point they cant throw 5-10 yard passes. Thats not on a guy who hasnt been on campusin 2 and some years.
Can we finally get to the point where we acknowlege the staff coaches guys to the net result of playing uncomfortable?
Can we finally get to the point where we acknowlege the staff coaches guys to the net result of playing uncomfortable?
I will believe it when I see it.
It was anti up-tempo last two years. Put one TE across. Then put the other TE in the backfield. Then he shuffles. Then we need a time out because there are 2 seconds on the play clock.
It was anti up-tempo last two years. Put one TE across. Then put the other TE in the backfield. Then he shuffles. Then we need a time out because there are 2 seconds on the play clock.
I think the key will be each individual executing their assignment. If we can avoid injuries and develop a little depth for the fall we may end up being ok. It seems that there is enough here if we can just get he job done individually. spread or not
Spreading the field does not necessarily mean throwing deep. The Nord fense spread the field but rarely passed beyond 5 yards
Qb accuracy would help more than anything
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The best I can say for this season is that I will know it when I see it. I guess when pinned down I want to feel some goodness at the end with at least 6 and that bowl game. I want to see competence, I want good game flow, etc...To feel good, I think no blow out losses and perform well. There are games on schedule to get 6 wins. Then continue to build and grow. That would make the renovation appear to be well underway.
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