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Biden getting us into WW III before leaving office.

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No coincidence this happened after Trump won the election.
IMO Trump was going to get peace in Europe by coming up with a compromise where Ukraine would give up some property to Russia.
That wasn't acceptable to the EU.
Was it acceptable to Ukraine??
 
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No coincidence this happened after Trump won the election.
IMO Trump was going to get peace in Europe by coming up with a compromise where Ukraine would give up some property to Russia.
That wasn't acceptable to the EU.
Was it acceptable to Ukraine??
Let's backtrack a bit. Biden started the Ukraine-Russia war by agreeing to allow Ukraine into NATO (link). For years, Putin warned that any former Warsaw Pact nation attempting to join join NATO would be considered an act of war. Yet Biden gave the green light for Ukraine to join and Putin started planning the invasion of Ukraine immediately.

So before you ask if giving up Ukraine land is acceptable to the EU or Ukraine, consider: (1) Can Ukraine possibly WIN a war against Russia? And (2), does Ukraine, the EU or the US want the current war escalated even further?

 
Let's backtrack a bit. Biden started the Ukraine-Russia war by agreeing to allow Ukraine into NATO (link). For years, Putin warned that any former Warsaw Pact nation attempting to join join NATO would be considered an act of war. Yet Biden gave the green light for Ukraine to join and Putin started planning the invasion of Ukraine immediately.

So before you ask if giving up Ukraine land is acceptable to the EU or Ukraine, consider: (1) Can Ukraine possibly WIN a war against Russia? And (2), does Ukraine, the EU or the US want the current war escalated even further?

Yes we know why Putin invaded Ukraine.
To answer your questions:
No Ukraine can't win a war with Russia without help from the West.
No neither the US nor the EU wants escalation.

The philosophy was to keep supplying Ukraine with defensive weapons to fend off the Russian invasion.
Hoping Russian would drain itself from public support, militarily and financially and quit fighting.
In jumps North Korea. That philosophy just took a dump. The escalation has taken a leap.
Rocket man has nukes.
So it looks like a compromise where Russia takes part of Ukraine, The Russian controlled part Donbas, was in Trumps mind.
Of course speculation on my part.

So the question is why did Biden let Ukraine use the offensive weapons that Ukraine has had now for a couple of years?
IMO the EU wanted to use US resources to drain Russia. Biden complied. Trump probably wouldn't have. He has said the killing must stop before the war escalates. He has said he would end the war. The only way to accomplish this would be to give Russia, what they really already control, Donbas.
 
No Ukraine can't win a war with Russia without help from the West.
Ukraine can't win a war against Russia. Period. Ukraine can't possibly defeat Russia. Russia has 9,600 nuclear warheads (that we know about via SALT) and Lord only knows how many we don't know about. The best ending to the war that is possible is a stalemate.
IMO the EU wanted to use US resources to drain Russia. Biden complied. Trump probably wouldn't have.
Of course the EU wants to use US resources to fight Russia. Uncle Stupid has been the Cash Cow for NATO for 75 years. Bush, Obama and Trump all complained about this. Bush was ignored, Obama was praised and Trump was ridiculed.

I am aware that NATO countries in Europe have collectively given more support to Ukraine than the US but the US is by far the biggest individual contributer. That may be somewhat justifiable since the Biden zombie started this war but nonetheless, this is a non-NATO war and the EU nations should be providing all of the support to Ukraine with zero from the US. In fact, we should begin pulling troops OUT of NATO-Europe on Jan 20th.
 
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This administration seems to do anything that will make it harder for Trump.
You mean like the Afghanistan deal? Or trumps order to withdraw all troops that was ignored? Or zero cooperation in the handoff to Biden?

It could be Biden us trying to get Ukraine in a stronger position before the inevitable cave to Putin by trump.

It's BS that either side wouldn't do everything to help the incoming administration. I guess elections have consequences can take on a different meaning.
 
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It could be Biden us trying to get Ukraine in a stronger position before the inevitable cave to Putin by trump.
Did you read the link that I posted above? Did you understand it? We are on the brink of nuclear war. Here are the last two paragraphs:

"The new doctrine asserts that Russia could use nuclear arms in the event of an attack by a nation backed by a nuclear power. The doctrine’s publication on Tuesday appeared to be the latest suggestion from the Kremlin that Russia could use nuclear weapons to respond to attacks by Ukraine carried out with American support, and that the response could be directed against American facilities as well as Ukraine itself."

“Aggression against the Russian Federation and (or) its allies by any nonnuclear state with the participation or support of a nuclear state is considered as their joint attack,” the document says.
 
You mean like the Afghanistan deal? Or trumps order to withdraw all troops that was ignored? Or zero cooperation in the handoff to Biden?

It could be Biden us trying to get Ukraine in a stronger position before the inevitable cave to Putin by trump.

It's BS that either side wouldn't do everything to help the incoming administration. I guess elections have consequences can take on a different meaning.
Trump absolutely was not going to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan.
Trump would have NEVER left the Taliban in charge of security during the withdraw.

Priority one for Trump was keeping Bagram air Base.
Sleepy Joe gave it to the Chinese. What did he get in return?
 
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Trump absolutely was not going to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan.
Trump would have NEVER left the Taliban in charge of security during the withdraw.

Priority one for Trump was keeping Bagram air Base.
Sleepy Joe gave it to the Chinese. What did he get in return?

You believe China has the base because trump said so?

If trump wanted to keep Bagram he should have included it the great deal he made with the Taliban. Did he do that? If he had gotten out of Afghanistan in 4 years like he promised he could have tried to keep it. Did he do that? In what world would the Taliban let us stay at Bagram while giving them the rest of the country?

 
Did you read the link that I posted above? Did you understand it? We are on the brink of nuclear war. Here are the last two paragraphs:

"The new doctrine asserts that Russia could use nuclear arms in the event of an attack by a nation backed by a nuclear power. The doctrine’s publication on Tuesday appeared to be the latest suggestion from the Kremlin that Russia could use nuclear weapons to respond to attacks by Ukraine carried out with American support, and that the response could be directed against American facilities as well as Ukraine itself."

“Aggression against the Russian Federation and (or) its allies by any nonnuclear state with the participation or support of a nuclear state is considered as their joint attack,” the document says.
The brink of nuclear war. Smh
Better get in your bunker.
 

You believe China has the base because trump said so?

If trump wanted to keep Bagram he should have included it the great deal he made with the Taliban. Did he do that? If he had gotten out of Afghanistan in 4 years like he promised he could have tried to keep it. Did he do that? In what world would the Taliban let us stay at Bagram while giving them the rest of the country?

China has the base because Biden gave it to them PERIOD.
If the US had kept Bagram the Taliban wouldn’t be controlling Afghanistan.
Face it the incompetent -corrupt Biden debacle of an Administration messed Afghanistan up completely. Keep blaming it on Trump lol.
What’s sad is the thousands of lives lost in a war that ended on a Biden Administration disgrace.
Trump would not have given the Taliban control of the withdraw.
Trump would not have given up Bargam to anyone. PERIOD
 
China has the base because Biden gave it to them PERIOD.
If the US had kept Bagram the Taliban wouldn’t be controlling Afghanistan.
Face it the incompetent -corrupt Biden debacle of an Administration messed Afghanistan up completely. Keep blaming it on Trump lol.
What’s sad is the thousands of lives lost in a war that ended on a Biden Administration disgrace.
Trump would not have given the Taliban control of the withdraw.
Trump would not have given up Bargam to anyone. PERIOD
You idiots think if you say something enough that makes it true.

CHINA DOESN'T HAVE THE BASE.
Trump was lying to you.

Lol. You can't keep an airbase halfway around the world in the middle of a hostile country. Lol.
 
Lol. You can't keep an airbase halfway around the world in the middle of a hostile country. Lol.
Is that from the Bagram Bob defense doctrine?

You can keep it by bombing the crap out of the local hostiles whenever they get overly hostile.
 
Your childish comment is evidence that you don't understand the threat. Putin has spoken about escalating the war by using tactical nuclear missiles in the battlefield, not a strategic ICBM attack.
Good point.

A concern I have is what happens if one or more of our dozens of Euro military bases is hit in a tactical nuke attack. If our senile president finds out about it, will he escalate - or will his puppet masters in the Mil-Industrial complex escalate?

If a recent Gallup poll is correct that a majority of Ukrainians want a quick negotiated end to the war, even if it means giving up territory, why is our idiot president escalating if not at the orders of the war industry?

 
Good point.

A concern I have is what happens if one or more of our dozens of Euro military bases is hit in a tactical nuke attack. If our senile president finds out about it, will he escalate - or will his puppet masters in the Mil-Industrial complex escalate?
That is indeed the problem. We have a brain-dead, senile zombie President playing chess with a authoritarian zealot Putin who has already gone ape-shid over-the-top by starting this war. Does any reasonable person think that Putin will suddenly start playing by Marquess of Queensberry Rules?
 
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