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With TKR, Jacobsen, Burgess, maybe a Portal 4-5 not sure he’d be the backup.
Painter has made it clear that Defense and Rebounding are what he needs from his Bigs this year to get more playing time. Berg started strong with rebounding but has faded lately. My personal thoughts are that Berg will get his chance again soon. Teams we've played recently were very athletic and Furst made more sense due to Athleticism.
He out rebounds most of the team, what is your point? Smith also plays almost 40 minutes a game versus a guy that barely gets minutes.
YOu tell me? He recruited him! DO you think Painter recruited guys to ride the bench? D1 scholarship players!
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Berg will log minutes against Michigan and IU so we do need him to be ready when his time comes.
I mean recruited players don't pan out. No coach is 100 percent on that. So yeah, it's always a possibility. So you think what Painter is not playing a talented big on purpose? Out of stupidity? What?
Berg was definitely a project coming in. Edey was the same. They don't all pan out. I'd say more often they don't.
Hammonds and Haarms were much quicker, were great shot blockers from day one.
With DJ back (assuming) TKR is the starting 4 and Burgess a backup 4. Plenty of space for Burg if he beats out Burgess.
Didn’t Painter also give a scholarship to a legacy player knowing he would never start? Wadell perhaps? Don’t tell people Painter only gives scholarships to players who are projected starters. Wadell will always ride the bench as a role player. Successful teams also need players to ride the bench.
At Kentucky, in the past, they would give 1-2 players a scholarship to help keep their overall GPA over the minimum team required standard. With all of their one and dones, they needed someone who actually went to class.
Many times a legacy player will receive a scholarship over a more deserving player.
Many times? Can you provide those example?
Waddell, pre injury—torn acl, was apparently turning heads in practice…
When Berg was playing at the beginning of the season, the only stats he was exceling in was fouls. CMP said himself when ask about the switch to the smaller lineup "We weren't rebounding with the bigger lineup & the offense can do more things with this lineup".
+1 - We got incredibly lucky with Zach. 1 in a million to go THAT far. But lots of our bigs have been projects.
I am defending more of his case for playing time over all you arguing for Furst to be playing more. You are acting like I don't make sense, but on the flip side of the pro Furst first players, is there is ANYTHING Furst does anymore than Berg to justify his minutes? Athleticism is a cheap answer, when he loses the ball so much and BOTCHES a WIDE OPEN DUNK. ... NOT TO MENTION ONCE AGAIN, HE is supposed to be more experienced, but what GOOD is that, if he isn't playing consistently well by NOW? For EVERYONE saying Berg doesn't bring much, you haven't provided a clear path why Furst should play more. If it's because you LOVE HIM SO MUCH , then please just say that, because that explains ALOT!
To be fair to the other bigs, ZACH WAS NOTHING his sophomore year, like his junior and senior years and I LOVE ME SOME EDEY!
You should more attention to what we are actually saying.
Calebs biggest plus over Will is his ability to move his feet. Botcthing a dunk means you aren't athletic? That's just silly.
It on DEFENSIVE end that Will has been overmatched.
And I've stated that repeatedly......
Caleb Furst stays in front of his man most of the time.
He moves pretty darn well for a big. Will on the other hand is on the bigger and slower end of the scale of big men.
Don't try to make us look like we favor one player over another.
MOST OF US DO NOT!
We care about PURDUE winning and if that means starting the 5 guys on the end of the bench THAT WOULD BE FINE....
Pay attention to what is actually happening on the court.
Not what you wish would happen.
Painter sees him everyday!!! I Trust him!! Many of you do not know ____________________!!!!
Will not attempt to guess how much or how little he will be played. But do think his size/bulk will be needed and used at times this year if for no other reason than to beat on some other big(s) from the team we are playing that day.
He wasn't what he was as a jr and sr, but he was more or less even with Trevion Williams, a borderline NBA player and Sr veteran.
I do?? I have been watching Purdue bball for a long time.You should more attention to what we are actually saying.
Calebs biggest plus over Will is his ability to move his feet. Botcthing a dunk means you aren't athletic? That's just silly.
It on DEFENSIVE end that Will has been overmatched.
And I've stated that repeatedly......
Caleb Furst stays in front of his man most of the time.
He moves pretty darn well for a big. Will on the other hand is on the bigger and slower end of the scale of big men.
Don't try to make us look like we favor one player over another.
MOST OF US DO NOT!
We care about PURDUE winning and if that means starting the 5 guys on the end of the bench THAT WOULD BE FINE....
Pay attention to what is actually happening on the court.
Not what you wish would happen.
Oh you're the one. Yeah the rest of us only started this year.
Zach was Much better his soph year than any of our current biga, is not close.
Berg needs to develop confidence in his shot and needs aggression when guarding in the paint. I'd love to see him playing 20 minutes or more per game, because I think he's got a lot he isn't showing right now that playing time would help him and would help the team.
playing time would help him, but the schedule may not allow as much as desired because there are other players still learning all teh plays in other positions. I think Matt is great, but sometimes I think there could be too many plays that causes too much thinking. Buzz said in their review, Purdue had already shown 77 different plays in their previous games and why the teams that really D up, talk and communicate have a better chance than learning dry run plays of PUrdue
Under the basket shots against bigger players and being doubled is what he is facing the wings must come through
true, but he also shows the ball before jumping. Protect the ball and raise it as you jack a few jaws, but angling into them if behind you as it seems to happen
Dafuq?
Zach average 14.4 and 7.7 in just 19 minutes while in a timeshare with an another All B1G center. That's not even close to nothing.
Hell, compare his per 40 numbers as a soph to those of his NPOY seasons:
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Conference
| Season | School | Conf | Class | G | GS | MP | FG | FGA | FG% | 2P | 2PA | 2P% | 3P | 3PA | 3P% | FT | FTA | FT% | TRB | AST | STL | BLK | TOV | PF | PTS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020-21 | Purdue | Big Ten | FR | 28 | 2 | 411 | 8.7 | 14.5 | .597 | 8.7 | 14.5 | .597 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 6.3 | 8.9 | .714 | 12.1 | 1.0 | 0.4 | 2.9 | 3.7 | 6.2 | 23.6 | |
| 2021-22 | Purdue | Big Ten | SO | 37 | 33 | 703 | 11.9 | 18.4 | .648 | 11.9 | 18.4 | .648 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 6.4 | 9.9 | .649 | 16.2 | 2.5 | 0.5 | 2.6 | 3.6 | 4.2 | 30.3 | |
| 2022-23 | Purdue | Big Ten | JR | 34 | 34 | 1077 | 10.8 | 17.8 | .607 | 10.8 | 17.8 | .607 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 6.6 | 9.0 | .734 | 16.3 | 1.9 | 0.3 | 2.7 | 2.9 | 2.1 | 28.1 | |
| 2023-24 | Purdue | Big Ten | SR | 39 | 39 | 1248 | 10.8 | 17.3 | .623 | 10.7 | 17.2 | .624 | 0.0 | 0.1 | .500 | 9.9 | 14.0 | .711 | 15.2 | 2.5 | 0.4 | 2.7 | 2.9 | 2.4 | 31.5 |
| Career | Purdue | 138 | 108 | 3439 | 10.8 | 17.3 | .621 | 10.7 | 17.3 | .621 | 0.0 | 0.0 | .500 | 7.7 | 11.0 | .706 | 15.4 | 2.2 | 0.4 | 2.7 | 3.1 | 3.1 | 29.3 |
You crazy. He was pushing Tre out of his starting spot.
in the early 2000s, there was a great AAU coach in Fort Wayne (I forget his name). We gave his son a schollie ... because he had and would probably continue to lead his best players to the Boilers ... This has been true in the Region before. Keeping the influencers of the pipeline happy.
I don't understand this idea that there's something he's not showing in practice, or his current time on the court that will just appear if he gets more playing time.
This is almost never true. It's true that are a handful of players who play better than they practice (and even more who practice better than they play). I see nothing to suggest Berg is that tiny fraction.
But the folks seem to know just by watching Berg at garbage time last year and early this year vs not the best competition that he should get 20 minutes a game now! Why Zach was nothing his sophomore year too they say. ( not true) I trust that the coach who has watched Berg for two years in practice will know when he is starting to get it. Berg will get some more time vs teams with big front lines very soon. He will have a chance to earn minutes with his play in practice and in games.
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