"And will, to the best of my ability"

[Quix0te]

You like it because it floats an idea that isn't specific. It still comes down to whether the president's actions are legitimate.

It makes no difference whether I like it or not. The fundamental question is whether a federal judge can over-rule the President's authority executing his duties in the Executive Branch of the government, and it's a thorny issue. If a federal judge orders DOD not to send bombs to Israel, is that constitutional? Does a federal judge have that constitutional authority? If a federal judge orders FEMA not to aid the LA wildfire victims, is that constitutional? If a federal judge orders the Coast Guard not to interfere with drug smugglers, is that constitutional? Are federal judges all-powerful gods who have complete control over all aspects of our federal government?

Can a federal judge over-rule anything - or everything - that the President does? We have hundreds of federal judges. Do each of them have the authority to stop or start whatever the State Dept does, and the Dept of Energy, and the Dept of Defense?

 

[BB62]

It makes no difference whether I like it or not. The fundamental question is whether a federal judge can over-rule the President's authority executing his duties in the Executive Branch of the government, and it's a thorny issue. If a federal judge orders DOD not to send bombs to Israel, is that constitutional? Does a federal judge have that constitutional authority? If a federal judge orders FEMA not to aid the LA wildfire victims, is that constitutional? If a federal judge orders the Coast Guard not to interfere with drug smugglers, is that constitutional? Are federal judges all-powerful gods who have complete control over all aspects of our federal government?

Can a federal judge over-rule anything - or everything - that the President does? We have hundreds of federal judges. Do each of them have the authority to stop or start whatever the State Dept does, and the Dept of Energy, and the Dept of Defense?

Of course not. Wtf are talking about? Who's saying they are? The examples you're giving are ridiculous. You're creating a straw man.

Does executive power allow the president to ignore the constitution? Does it allow the president to dismantle or defund agencies authorized by congress?

Tell me what rulings the federal judges have made so far regarding trumps actions that exceed their authority.

The WH has already started criticizing the judiciary........along with the co-president. Just the beginning. Before long rubes like you will be fine with trump ignoring court decisions. They're already reeling you in.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

The reality is Repubs are going for headlines and it's working. But what they actually need to do is execute and authorize a balanced budget ON TIME. They can do all their defunding and RIFing through the process and then there really won't be any legal challenges. This EO war stuff can be undone by the next person.

 

[Quix0te]

Of course not. Wtf are talking about? Who's saying they are? The examples you're giving are ridiculous. You're creating a straw man.

Does executive power allow the president to ignore the constitution? Does it allow the president to dismantle or defund agencies authorized by congress?

Tell me what rulings the federal judges have made so far regarding trumps actions that exceed their authority.

The WH has already started criticizing the judiciary........along with the co-president. Just the beginning. Before long rubes like you will be fine with trump ignoring court decisions. They're already reeling you in.

It is your comments that are ridiculous. What has Trump done that "ignores the constitution."? And of course Trump's executive power allows him to defund agencies authorized by Congress. An authorization from Congress is just that, the authority and funding to do something. It is not a mandate to spend. Do you believe that Trump does not have the authority to stop the USAID from paying $47,000 for a "transgender opera" in Colombia?

Regarding what rulings federal judges have made that exceed their authority, there's the one that barred the federal government from offering buyouts to employees. That nonsense has already been reversed.

A federal judge blocked Trump's plan to pause federal funding while his administration reviewed various programs. This is another example of "forced spending."

A federal judge issued a preliminary junction blocking Trump's envoy from accessing Treasury Dept records. The President doesn't have access to Treasury Dept records? The bureaucrats at the Treasury can just keep their financial records to themselves?

 

[BoilerJS]

Of course not. Wtf are talking about? Who's saying they are? The examples you're giving are ridiculous. You're creating a straw man.

Does executive power allow the president to ignore the constitution? Does it allow the president to dismantle or defund agencies authorized by congress?

Tell me what rulings the federal judges have made so far regarding trumps actions that exceed their authority.

The WH has already started criticizing the judiciary........along with the co-president. Just the beginning. Before long rubes like you will be fine with trump ignoring court decisions. They're already reeling you in.

Some of the agencies Trump is proposing to be closed were initiated by executive order.
USAID, Department of education to name just 2.

 

[BB62]

Some of the agencies Trump is proposing to be closed were initiated by executive order.
USAID, Department of education to name just 2.

You just making sh/t up? It was an act of Congress.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/COMPS-726/pdf/COMPS-726.pdf

 

[BoilerJS]

You just making sh/t up? It was an act of Congress.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/COMPS-726/pdf/COMPS-726.pdf

Congress approved the funding.

Why Do We Have a Department of Education? Jimmy Carter's Debt to a Teachers Union.

Public education existed well before 1980, but an unpopular President Carter wanted the nation's largest union on his side before an election.

reason.com

Carter created it, Congress endorsed it.

 

[BB62]

Congress approved the funding.

Why Do We Have a Department of Education? Jimmy Carter's Debt to a Teachers Union.

Public education existed well before 1980, but an unpopular President Carter wanted the nation's largest union on his side before an election.

reason.com

Carter created it, Congress endorsed it.

I know the history. I'm gratified you took the time to do some research and realize you lied about it. Try the research first next time. Your opinion piece is irrelevant to your lie.

 

[BoilerJS]

I know the history. I'm gratified you took the time to do some research and realize you lied about it. Try the research first next time. Your opinion piece is irrelevant to your lie.

So if Trump dismantles the Department of Education I guess Congress will have to unauthorize it? lol
Why did they authorize it to begin with. Oh to fund it.

 

[BB62]

So if Trump dismantles the Department of Education I guess Congress will have to unauthorize it? lol
Why did they authorize it to begin with. Oh to fund it.

I don't know what your definition of "dismantle" means in this context. He can't eliminate it by EO. I guess I gave you too much credit for doing research.

He can gut it, limit its reach, make it much less effective. But he can't burn it to the ground like he is trying to do with so other things.

 

[BoilerJS]

I don't know what your definition of "dismantle" means in this context. He can't eliminate it by EO. I guess I gave you too much credit for doing research.

He can gut it, limit its reach, make it much less effective. But he can't burn it to the ground like he is trying to do with so other things.

Dismantle was specifically used by me.
He's finding the waste and eliminating it. Or at least making it public and trying to eliminate it.

 

[BB62]

Dismantle was specifically used by me.
He's finding the waste and eliminating it. Or at least making it public and trying to eliminate it.

So once he again, it wasn't created by EO and can't be shut down by EO.

None of this is about cutting waste or saving money. It's about reshaping the government and keeping people like you happy. The totality of the money saved so far would pay the interest on the debt for about two weeks. Talk to me when he gets serious.

And before you lob out false accusations, I am completely for cutting out kabuki dancing lessons in Bolivia and the like. I'm not for these decisions being made by people who are short sighted and transactional and have no concept of the long term benefits of some of these programs. Feeding the starving or giving life saving vaccines to kids in Africa are the right things to do and benefit us in the long run.

 

[Quix0te]

Feeding the starving or giving life saving vaccines to kids in Africa are the right things to do and benefit us in the long run.

Democrats think that transgender operas and gay comic books are the right thing to do with tax dollars.

 

[BB62]

Democrats think that transgender operas and gay comic books are the right thing to do with tax dollars.

Why quote that part of the post .............just to demonstrate your obsessive rage?

 

[Quix0te]

Why quote that part of the post and just to demonstrate your obsessive rage?

This is what really puzzles me about Democrats. They aren't upset that USAID was squandering tax dollars on transgender operas. They're upset that USAID got caught.

 

[BB62]

This is what really puzzles me about Democrats. They aren't upset that USAID was squandering tax dollars on transgender operas. They're upset that USAID got caught.

According to who? You? Bone? You're posting like it's some kind of fact. You make sh/t up just so you can get pissed off about it. It's works well for you.

 

[bonefish1]

So once he again, it wasn't created by EO and can't be shut down by EO.

None of this is about cutting waste or saving money. It's about reshaping the government and keeping people like you happy. The totality of the money saved so far would pay the interest on the debt for about two weeks. Talk to me when he gets serious.

And before you lob out false accusations, I am completely for cutting out kabuki dancing lessons in Bolivia and the like. I'm not for these decisions being made by people who are short sighted and transactional and have no concept of the long term benefits of some of these programs. Feeding the starving or giving life saving vaccines to kids in Africa are the right things to do and benefit us in the long run.

So Bob, apparently Musk is floating the idea of providing a tax return check to taxpayers for all the money the DOGE is saving.
I'm going to assume that you, since you're against all the government savings, will return your check to the IRS?
Please state Yes or No.

 

[bonefish1]

This is what really puzzles me about Democrats. They aren't upset that USAID was squandering tax dollars on transgender operas. They're upset that USAID got caught.

150% correct. The faux outrage is hilarious. Not mad at the waste, mad at getting caught wasting.....

 

[bonefish1]

According to who? You? Bone? You're posting like it's some kind of fact. You make sh/t up just so you can get pissed off about it. It's works well for you.

Have you not watched the news? Did you go participate in a rally with the rest of the overweight purple haired wart hogs on President's Day?
If you don't like the cuts DOGE is making to USAID, I'm sure they'll accept a personal check from you to help fund the programs you'd like to support.
Want me to get you an address?

 

[Quix0te]

150% correct. The faux outrage is hilarious. Not made at the waste, mad at getting caught wasting.....

"failing the common sense test"

Vocal opposition to Elon Musk's DOGE cuts is a 'terrible' strategy, warns ex-Democrat advisor

Former Democratic advisor Dan Turrentine admitted the party's effort to criticize Elon Musk's DOGE is 'terrible' as he uncovers and roots out wasteful federal spending.

www.foxnews.com

 

[BB62]

So Bob, apparently Musk is floating the idea of providing a tax return check to taxpayers for all the money the DOGE is saving.
I'm going to assume that you, since you're against all the government savings, will return your check to the IRS?
Please state Yes or No.

Once again you show you can't read and/or enjoy telling lies about people that don't think like you. I've said I think cutting government waste is awesome. All for it. I've talked about the national debt on this board more than any of you so called republicans. My biggest issue is that a total of TWO people are the ones making the decisions on what gets cut.

Here, kitty kitty kitty. Promising you a check when they cut two TRILLION in government spending lol. Tell you what slick. When that actually happens we can talk about what I'm going to do with it.

When, or if, you go to mass on Saturday you need to say a few Hail Marys and explain to your savior why you're unwilling to give up one Starbucks a year to keep a few less fortunate of his children from dying from starvation or disease........because god forbid you can't have your tax dollars helping them damn foreigners.

 

[BoilerJS]

My biggest issue is that a total of TWO people are the ones making the decisions on what gets cut.

You are concerned that Trump has looked into and found fraud and waste in the government.
Using a small task force that cost the government pennies.
And yet for decades some 488 elected individuals couldn't reduce it by a penny!!