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Accorxing to the Star, Kiser Mr. football

Say what you want about the ND connection, but Kiser has had a tremendous high school career and is absolutely deserving of the 'Mr. Football' title.
 
It would have been great to have gotten Kiser. I know we went after him hard.

He had a great season no doubt. I just think that Bell's stats were better for Mr. Football.
 
It would have been great to have gotten Kiser. I know we went after him hard.

He had a great season no doubt. I just think that Bell's stats were better for Mr. Football.

I agree 100%. Kiser seems like a good kid and good player. Bell seems like a good kid, great player, proved it against the best teams in Indiana. Kiser was playing 1a squads with no one going anywhere, Bell played teams with D1 talent. Heck I’d be angry if Karlaftis got Mr. Football over David Bell, even though it isn’t certain Bell is coming to Purdue. Bell played that well this year.
 
I agree 100%. Kiser seems like a good kid and good player. Bell seems like a good kid, great player, proved it against the best teams in Indiana. Kiser was playing 1a squads with no one going anywhere, Bell played teams with D1 talent. Heck I’d be angry if Karlaftis got Mr. Football over David Bell, even though it isn’t certain Bell is coming to Purdue. Bell played that well this year.
If Kiser was playing on a big time team like Bell, he'd still have great stats...he's that good of an athlete. ND offered based on his attendance at a camp and other information not because of his stats against 1A competition.
 
I agree 100%. Kiser seems like a good kid and good player. Bell seems like a good kid, great player, proved it against the best teams in Indiana. Kiser was playing 1a squads with no one going anywhere, Bell played teams with D1 talent. Heck I’d be angry if Karlaftis got Mr. Football over David Bell, even though it isn’t certain Bell is coming to Purdue. Bell played that well this year.
Today is when Brohm has an in home visit with Bell. I hope that visit makes it certain for us.
 
If Kiser was playing on a big time team like Bell, he'd still have great stats...he's that good of an athlete. ND offered based on his attendance at a camp and other information not because of his stats against 1A competition.

He probably would have, but he didn’t face that competition. His achievement was not as great as Bell’s. It’s awarding potential not actual accomplishment, and it has all kinds of bad undertones that neither kid deserves.
 
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How about this part?

Bell performed fantastically against top competition. Kiser performed fantastically against lesser competition. We all think Kiser would be great against better competition, but he hasn’t shown it. Its just potential that he would do it, not an actual accomplishment. It’s like giving a D3 guy the Heisman over an FBS guy.
 
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So am I because the other day, psu lost a wr recruit named Emmery Simmons (3 stars) to UNC who he originally verballed to. Hoping they don't bother Bell.
I am sure they are constantly talking to him, but Brohm should be able to sell Bell by showing what he has done for Moore by tailoring his offense around him. He will do the same for Bell.
 
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Bell performed fantastically against top competition. Kiser performed fantastically against lesser competition. We all think Kiser would be great against better competition, but he hasn’t shown it. Its just potential that he would do it, not an actual accomplishment. It’s like giving a D3 guy the Heisman over an FBS guy.

How about this as a counter argument--Bell plays vs. better competition, but he had very high talent level teammates all around him. Kiser played vs. lesser competition, but he had a lower level of teammate around him. Does that level out the comparison at all?
 
How about this as a counter argument--Bell plays vs. better competition, but he had very high talent level teammates all around him. Kiser played vs. lesser competition, but he had a lower level of teammate around him. Does that level out the comparison at all?

Not in my eyes. Kiser was a level above his surroundings physically, his teammates were at least par for their surroundings.
 
i think he will. He needs a year and by junior year he may be starting. He has a great attitude and is better than a lot think
There is no question that he’s a good player. Brohm wanted him badly and early on it looked like Purdue was the leader for him. ND then made a hard push and got him to verbal pretty early in the process. He will play for ND - quite a bit I suspect.
 
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