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Fintan O’Toole: Donald Trump has destroyed the country he promised to make great again

The world has loved, hated and envied the US, Now, for the first time, we pity it

Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity.

However bad things are for most other rich democracies, it is hard not to feel sorry for Americans. Most of them did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016. Yet they are locked down with a malignant narcissist who, instead of protecting his people from Covid-19, has amplified its lethality. The country Trump promised to make great again has never in its history seemed so pitiful.

Will American prestige ever recover from this shameful episode? The US went into the coronavirus crisis with immense advantages: precious weeks of warning about what was coming, the world’s best concentration of medical and scientific expertise, effectively limitless financial resources, a military complex with stunning logistical capacity and most of the world’s leading technology corporations. Yet it managed to make itself the global epicentre of the pandemic.

As the American writer George Packer puts it in the current edition of the Atlantic, “The United States reacted ... like Pakistan or Belarus – like a country with shoddy infrastructure and a dysfunctional government whose leaders were too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering.”

It is one thing to be powerless in the face of a natural disaster, quite another to watch vast power being squandered in real time – wilfully, malevolently, vindictively. It is one thing for governments to fail (as, in one degree or another, most governments did), quite another to watch a ruler and his supporters actively spread a deadly virus. Trump, his party and Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News became vectors of the pestilence.

The grotesque spectacle of the president openly inciting people (some of them armed) to take to the streets to oppose the restrictions that save lives is the manifestation of a political death wish. What are supposed to be daily briefings on the crisis, demonstrative of national unity in the face of a shared challenge, have been used by Trump merely to sow confusion and division. They provide a recurring horror show in which all the neuroses that haunt the American psyche dance naked on live TV. If the plague is a test, its ruling political nexus ensured that the US would fail it at a terrible cost in human lives. In the process, the idea of the US as the world’s leading nation – an idea that has shaped the past century – has all but evaporated. Who, other than the Trump impersonator Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, is now looking to the US as the exemplar of anything other than what not to do? How many people in Düsseldorf or Dublin are wishing they lived in Detroit or Dallas?

It is hard to remember now but, even in 2017, when Trump took office, the conventional wisdom in the US was that the Republican Party and the broader framework of US political institutions would prevent him from doing too much damage. This was always a delusion, but the pandemic has exposed it in the most savage ways.

Abject surrender
What used to be called mainstream conservatism has not absorbed Trump – he has absorbed it. Almost the entire right-wing half of American politics has surrendered abjectly to him. It has sacrificed on the altar of wanton stupidity the most basic ideas of responsibility, care and even safety.
Thus, even at the very end of March, 15 Republican governors had failed to order people to stay at home or to close non-essential businesses. In Alabama, for example, it was not until April 3rd that governor Kay Ivey finally issued a stay-at-home order.

In Florida, the state with the highest concentration of elderly people with underlying conditions, governor Ron DeSantis, a Trump mini-me, kept the beach resorts open to students travelling from all over the US for spring break parties. Even on April 1st, when he issued restrictions, DeSantis exempted religious services and “recreational activities”.

There is, as the demonstrations in US cities show, plenty of political mileage in denying the reality of the pandemic
Georgia governor Brian Kemp, when he finally issued a stay-at-home order on April 1st, explained: “We didn’t know that [the virus can be spread by people without symptoms] until the last 24 hours.”

This is not mere ignorance – it is deliberate and homicidal stupidity. There is, as the demonstrations this week in US cities have shown, plenty of political mileage in denying the reality of the pandemic. It is fuelled by Fox News and far-right internet sites, and it reaps for these politicians millions of dollars in donations, mostly (in an ugly irony) from older people who are most vulnerable to the coronavirus.

It draws on a concoction of conspiracy theories, hatred of science, paranoia about the “deep state” and religious providentialism (God will protect the good folks) that is now very deeply infused in the mindset of the American right.

Trump embodies and enacts this mindset, but he did not invent it. The US response to the coronavirus crisis has been paralysed by a contradiction that the Republicans have inserted into the heart of US democracy. On the one hand, they want to control all the levers of governmental power. On the other they have created a popular base by playing on the notion that government is innately evil and must not be trusted.
The contradiction was made manifest in two of Trump’s statements on the pandemic: on the one hand that he has “total authority”, and on the other that “I don’t take responsibility at all”. Caught between authoritarian and anarchic impulses, he is incapable of coherence.

Fertile ground
But this is not just Donald Trump. The crisis has shown definitively that Trump’s presidency is not an aberration. It has grown on soil long prepared to receive it. The monstrous blossoming of misrule has structure and purpose and strategy behind it.

There are very powerful interests who demand “freedom” in order to do as they like with the environment, society and the economy. They have infused a very large part of American culture with the belief that “freedom” is literally more important than life. My freedom to own assault weapons trumps your right not to get shot at school. Now, my freedom to go to the barber (“I Need a Haircut” read one banner this week in St Paul, Minnesota) trumps your need to avoid infection.

Usually when this kind of outlandish idiocy is displaying itself, there is the comforting thought that, if things were really serious, it would all stop. People would sober up. Instead, a large part of the US has hit the bottle even harder.
And the president, his party and their media allies keep supplying the drinks. There has been no moment of truth, no shock of realisation that the antics have to end. No one of any substance on the US right has stepped in to say: get a grip, people are dying here.

If he is re-elected, toxicity will have become the lifeblood of American politics.

That is the mark of how deep the trouble is for the US – it is not just that Trump has treated the crisis merely as a way to feed tribal hatreds but that this behaviour has become normalised. When the freak show is live on TV every evening, and the star is boasting about his ratings, it is not really a freak show any more. For a very large and solid bloc of Americans, it is reality.
And this will get worse before it gets better. Trump has at least eight more months in power. In his inaugural address in 2017, he evoked “American carnage” and promised to make it stop. But now that the real carnage has arrived, he is revelling in it. He is in his element.

As things get worse, he will pump more hatred and falsehood, more death-wish defiance of reason and decency, into the groundwater. If a new administration succeeds him in 2021, it will have to clean up the toxic dump he leaves behind. If he is re-elected, toxicity will have become the lifeblood of American politics.

Either way, it will be a long time before the rest of the world can imagine America being great again.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/...try-he-promised-to-make-great-again-1.4235928
 
I want nothing more than for the current incarnation of the Republican party to die so it can be replaced with a reasonable, conservative alternative to the progressive left. I am hoping that a great number of people like me will not vote for Trump, and recognize that by taking a short term loss, the signal to the party will be that we reject the current direction, and over the long term the party will become one of reasoned discourse and rational action rather than the abomination it is today.
 
I want nothing more than for the current incarnation of the Republican party to die so it can be replaced with a reasonable, conservative alternative to the progressive left. I am hoping that a great number of people like me will not vote for Trump, and recognize that by taking a short term loss, the signal to the party will be that we reject the current direction, and over the long term the party will become one of reasoned discourse and rational action rather than the abomination it is today.

This times 1000
 
Who in the hell is Fintan O’Toole? I looked him up....ask me if I care.
 
I want nothing more than for the current incarnation of the Republican party to die so it can be replaced with a reasonable, conservative alternative to the progressive left. I am hoping that a great number of people like me will not vote for Trump, and recognize that by taking a short term loss, the signal to the party will be that we reject the current direction, and over the long term the party will become one of reasoned discourse and rational action rather than the abomination it is today.

In 2016 I asked how our country could come up with any worse candidates. Well 2020 is worse than that. To single out one party is only addressing half the problem. IMO. I would love to have an alternative but there isn’t one. Helping put the Dems in power would be a hell of a lot worse than a short term loss, IMO. The Dems are trying to disguise a massive left wing socialist movement by saying people like the squad are extremists. Well that isn’t the case anymore.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/guaranteed-basic-income-coronavirus-economic-recovery-nancy-pelosi/
 
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Briefly scanned it - all I needed to see was that he went after Florida's governor but not a peep about Cuomo. Seems legit.

This is the expected response when you know the article is right but you’ve dug in so hard you just drag out a worn out deflection.

Plenty will be written about Cuomo and others but this wasn’t what this article was about now, was it?
 
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In 2016 I asked how our country could come up with any worse candidates. Well 2020 is worse than that. To single out one party is only addressing half the problem. IMO. I would love to have an alternative but there isn’t one. Helping put the Dems in power would be a hell of a lot worse than a short term loss, IMO. The Dems are trying to disguise a massive left wing socialist movement by saying people like the squad are extremists. Well that isn’t the case anymore.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/guaranteed-basic-income-coronavirus-economic-recovery-nancy-pelosi/
I don’t care about the Democrats, Bruce. If Republicans could put up a respectable candidate, I would likely vote for them 100% of the time. I will likely never align with the progressive left ideologically, so I couldn’t care less who they put up.

No, this Trump fiasco is all on Republicans who nominated him and are too short sighted to put a stop to the destruction of the party at its own hands.
 
In 2016 I asked how our country could come up with any worse candidates. Well 2020 is worse than that. To single out one party is only addressing half the problem. IMO. I would love to have an alternative but there isn’t one. Helping put the Dems in power would be a hell of a lot worse than a short term loss, IMO. The Dems are trying to disguise a massive left wing socialist movement by saying people like the squad are extremists. Well that isn’t the case anymore.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/guaranteed-basic-income-coronavirus-economic-recovery-nancy-pelosi/
The moderate candidate will be the nominee. The "socialist" candidate was rejected and withdrew......because he couldn't win the nomination.

It appears to me any Dem candidate, even a proven moderate, will be portrayed to be a progressive or one who will at least support a progressive platform once in office. The candidate is irrelevant to you as any Dem will go progressive. I don't think that's true, the Dem voters have made that clear with their choice of Biden.

I could make the argument that the Trump administration has clearly shown the republican party is moving toward a more authoritarian stance that is only going to get worse.
 
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Fintan O’Toole: Donald Trump has destroyed the country he promised to make great again

The world has loved, hated and envied the US, Now, for the first time, we pity it

Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity.

However bad things are for most other rich democracies, it is hard not to feel sorry for Americans. Most of them did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016. Yet they are locked down with a malignant narcissist who, instead of protecting his people from Covid-19, has amplified its lethality. The country Trump promised to make great again has never in its history seemed so pitiful.

Will American prestige ever recover from this shameful episode? The US went into the coronavirus crisis with immense advantages: precious weeks of warning about what was coming, the world’s best concentration of medical and scientific expertise, effectively limitless financial resources, a military complex with stunning logistical capacity and most of the world’s leading technology corporations. Yet it managed to make itself the global epicentre of the pandemic.

As the American writer George Packer puts it in the current edition of the Atlantic, “The United States reacted ... like Pakistan or Belarus – like a country with shoddy infrastructure and a dysfunctional government whose leaders were too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering.”

It is one thing to be powerless in the face of a natural disaster, quite another to watch vast power being squandered in real time – wilfully, malevolently, vindictively. It is one thing for governments to fail (as, in one degree or another, most governments did), quite another to watch a ruler and his supporters actively spread a deadly virus. Trump, his party and Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News became vectors of the pestilence.

The grotesque spectacle of the president openly inciting people (some of them armed) to take to the streets to oppose the restrictions that save lives is the manifestation of a political death wish. What are supposed to be daily briefings on the crisis, demonstrative of national unity in the face of a shared challenge, have been used by Trump merely to sow confusion and division. They provide a recurring horror show in which all the neuroses that haunt the American psyche dance naked on live TV. If the plague is a test, its ruling political nexus ensured that the US would fail it at a terrible cost in human lives. In the process, the idea of the US as the world’s leading nation – an idea that has shaped the past century – has all but evaporated. Who, other than the Trump impersonator Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, is now looking to the US as the exemplar of anything other than what not to do? How many people in Düsseldorf or Dublin are wishing they lived in Detroit or Dallas?

It is hard to remember now but, even in 2017, when Trump took office, the conventional wisdom in the US was that the Republican Party and the broader framework of US political institutions would prevent him from doing too much damage. This was always a delusion, but the pandemic has exposed it in the most savage ways.

Abject surrender
What used to be called mainstream conservatism has not absorbed Trump – he has absorbed it. Almost the entire right-wing half of American politics has surrendered abjectly to him. It has sacrificed on the altar of wanton stupidity the most basic ideas of responsibility, care and even safety.
Thus, even at the very end of March, 15 Republican governors had failed to order people to stay at home or to close non-essential businesses. In Alabama, for example, it was not until April 3rd that governor Kay Ivey finally issued a stay-at-home order.

In Florida, the state with the highest concentration of elderly people with underlying conditions, governor Ron DeSantis, a Trump mini-me, kept the beach resorts open to students travelling from all over the US for spring break parties. Even on April 1st, when he issued restrictions, DeSantis exempted religious services and “recreational activities”.

There is, as the demonstrations in US cities show, plenty of political mileage in denying the reality of the pandemic
Georgia governor Brian Kemp, when he finally issued a stay-at-home order on April 1st, explained: “We didn’t know that [the virus can be spread by people without symptoms] until the last 24 hours.”

This is not mere ignorance – it is deliberate and homicidal stupidity. There is, as the demonstrations this week in US cities have shown, plenty of political mileage in denying the reality of the pandemic. It is fuelled by Fox News and far-right internet sites, and it reaps for these politicians millions of dollars in donations, mostly (in an ugly irony) from older people who are most vulnerable to the coronavirus.

It draws on a concoction of conspiracy theories, hatred of science, paranoia about the “deep state” and religious providentialism (God will protect the good folks) that is now very deeply infused in the mindset of the American right.

Trump embodies and enacts this mindset, but he did not invent it. The US response to the coronavirus crisis has been paralysed by a contradiction that the Republicans have inserted into the heart of US democracy. On the one hand, they want to control all the levers of governmental power. On the other they have created a popular base by playing on the notion that government is innately evil and must not be trusted.
The contradiction was made manifest in two of Trump’s statements on the pandemic: on the one hand that he has “total authority”, and on the other that “I don’t take responsibility at all”. Caught between authoritarian and anarchic impulses, he is incapable of coherence.

Fertile ground
But this is not just Donald Trump. The crisis has shown definitively that Trump’s presidency is not an aberration. It has grown on soil long prepared to receive it. The monstrous blossoming of misrule has structure and purpose and strategy behind it.

There are very powerful interests who demand “freedom” in order to do as they like with the environment, society and the economy. They have infused a very large part of American culture with the belief that “freedom” is literally more important than life. My freedom to own assault weapons trumps your right not to get shot at school. Now, my freedom to go to the barber (“I Need a Haircut” read one banner this week in St Paul, Minnesota) trumps your need to avoid infection.

Usually when this kind of outlandish idiocy is displaying itself, there is the comforting thought that, if things were really serious, it would all stop. People would sober up. Instead, a large part of the US has hit the bottle even harder.
And the president, his party and their media allies keep supplying the drinks. There has been no moment of truth, no shock of realisation that the antics have to end. No one of any substance on the US right has stepped in to say: get a grip, people are dying here.

If he is re-elected, toxicity will have become the lifeblood of American politics.

That is the mark of how deep the trouble is for the US – it is not just that Trump has treated the crisis merely as a way to feed tribal hatreds but that this behaviour has become normalised. When the freak show is live on TV every evening, and the star is boasting about his ratings, it is not really a freak show any more. For a very large and solid bloc of Americans, it is reality.
And this will get worse before it gets better. Trump has at least eight more months in power. In his inaugural address in 2017, he evoked “American carnage” and promised to make it stop. But now that the real carnage has arrived, he is revelling in it. He is in his element.

As things get worse, he will pump more hatred and falsehood, more death-wish defiance of reason and decency, into the groundwater. If a new administration succeeds him in 2021, it will have to clean up the toxic dump he leaves behind. If he is re-elected, toxicity will have become the lifeblood of American politics.

Either way, it will be a long time before the rest of the world can imagine America being great again.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-donald-trump-has-destroyed-the-country-he-promised-to-make-great-again-1.4235928?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-donald-trump-has-destroyed-the-country-he-promised-to-make-great-again-1.4235928
Whatever suits your agenda. And it is an agenda.
 
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The moderate candidate will be the nominee. The "socialist" candidate was rejected and withdrew......because he couldn't win the nomination.

It appears to me any Dem candidate, even a proven moderate, will be portrayed to be a progressive or one who will at least support a progressive platform once in office. The candidate is irrelevant to you as any Dem will go progressive. I don't think that's true, the Dem voters have made that clear with their choice of Biden.

I could make the argument that the Trump administration has clearly shown the republican party is moving toward a more authoritarian stance that is only going to get worse.
The moderate candidate will be the nominee. The "socialist" candidate was rejected and withdrew......because he couldn't win the nomination.

It appears to me any Dem candidate, even a proven moderate, will be portrayed to be a progressive or one who will at least support a progressive platform once in office. The candidate is irrelevant to you as any Dem will go progressive. I don't think that's true, the Dem voters have made that clear with their choice of Biden.

I could make the argument that the Trump administration has clearly shown the republican party is moving toward a more authoritarian stance that is only going to get worse.

Did you read the link? Hers’s another.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryangu...nd-mortgage-payments-for-1-year/#30593a02b482

This ain’t moderate politics. This is right out of the Squad and Bernie’s playbook and is proposed by the Dems favorite woman in the House.
 
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Did you read the link? Hers’s another.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryangu...nd-mortgage-payments-for-1-year/#30593a02b482

This ain’t moderate politics. This is right out of the Squad and Bernie’s playbook and is proposed by the Dems favorite woman in the House.
I read both links. They proposals are directly related to the consequences of the virus, not meant to be a permanent program.

You may believe that is the underlying intent and there will be a push to make it permanent.......slippery slope.......but to use these articles as proof of a coming progressive agenda is disingenuous.........when this program is a reaction to the current crisis.
 
Are you even aware of the economic impact of the pandemic?
So Gr, my daughter has 2 kids, 16 and 17. According to these proposals they would both get $4000/month in addition to $4000/month between her and her husband. That’s $8k/ month. This would be for up to a year “ unless extended”. Now the kicker. Both my daughter and her husband are still working (from home) and getting their regular pay. This kind of crap is just stupid, period.
 
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The Dems are trying to disguise a massive left wing socialist movement by saying people like the squad are extremists. Well that isn’t the case anymore.
Say what you will about what's the best Dem platform between center left, liberal, or leftist progressive ideology...but Biden has made it very clear he's a center left candidate -- both via his policy proposals and his rhetoric. It's hilarious that after all that, there are folks that still label him a socialist.

And -- for better or worse based on your political beliefs -- Biden has never really been a progressive by nature. His healthcare proposals during his 2008 candidacy were not nearly as progressive as Obamacare, he changed his tune on same sex marriage throughout his career, he's been open to cutting social security, etc.

Essentially, he's tended to favor the center throughout his career. Now he may make a couple concessions to appeal to the left wing of the party (environmentally for one), but you can rest assured that he's not gonna go all socialist on you lol
 
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It's hilarious that after all that, there are folks that still label him a socialist.
When you reside near the extremes, people in the center look like opposing extremists. When you reside in the center, extremists on both sides look like nut jobs. That's where I am with Feeling the Bern and MAGA.
 
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When you reside near the extremes, people in the center look like opposing extremists. When you reside in the center, extremists on both sides look like nut jobs. That's where I am with Feeling the Bern and MAGA.
Probably accurate. I think the way the poster in question consumes news is probably part of the equation on his "Biden is a secret socialist" opinion as well.
 
Probably accurate. I think the way the poster in question consumes news is probably part of the equation on his "Biden is a secret socialist" opinion as well.
Yes, that phenomenon is evident on both sides. You've seen it from a few guys on KHC who simply won't post their sources for their wacko conspiracy theories because deep down they know they're wacko. The common refrain being, "Do your own research!"
 
Say what you will about what's the best Dem platform between center left, liberal, or leftist progressive ideology...but Biden has made it very clear he's a center left candidate -- both via his policy proposals and his rhetoric. It's hilarious that after all that, there are folks that still label him a socialist.

And -- for better or worse based on your political beliefs -- Biden has never really been a progressive by nature. His healthcare proposals during his 2008 candidacy were not nearly as progressive as Obamacare, he changed his tune on same sex marriage throughout his career, he's been open to cutting social security, etc.

Essentially, he's tended to favor the center throughout his career. Now he may make a couple concessions to appeal to the left wing of the party (environmentally for one), but you can rest assured that he's not gonna go all socialist on you lol
In 2020, he's bought into the Green New Deal, Medicare for All, and Free College. He raised his hand for giving free medical care to illegal aliens in one of the early D debates (along with the rest of the D clown car on the stage). Sorry, but he is espousing the Progressive platform. In order to get the left-wing whackjobs to vote for him, he has to do this.
 
So Gr, my daughter has 2 kids, 16 and 17. According to these proposals they would both get $4000/month in addition to $4000/month between her and her husband. That’s $8k/ month. This would be for up to a year “ unless extended”. Now the kicker. Both my daughter and her husband are still working (from home) and getting their regular pay. This kind of crap is just stupid, period.
Not to the Dem's and Lib's who love getting free shit from the government. They love not having to work.
 
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In 2020, he's bought into the Green New Deal, Medicare for All, and Free College. He raised his hand for giving free medical care to illegal aliens in one of the early D debates (along with the rest of the D clown car on the stage). Sorry, but he is espousing the Progressive platform. In order to get the left-wing whackjobs to vote for him, he has to do this.
First off, I'm not here to defend Biden. I do not like him.

But he's not espousing the progressive platform. You are correct that he's moved left on college tuition and environmental issues, likely because those are generally popular among the entire Dem base and more specifically are very important to younger voters. However, he's not giving free college to all or embracing the entire Green New Deal.

He also hasn't done anything close to calling for Medicare for All, and literally spent the debates fighting that very proposal.

On those three issues, he's far to the right of Bernie and even Warren. When you consider the rest of the platform, he's pretty solidly center-left.

The gist of my post above was that Biden's instincts always are in the center, and then he'll move left as the tide turns...but never really fully embraces the progressive policy. His goal now is to try to appeal to the left/young wing of the party, while not turning off the conservative leaning voter that doesn't like Trump. He undoubtedly understands that enthusiasm among the base isn't painting a pretty picture for him, and is trying to throw a bone to the left. That does not make him some thinly veiled socialist.
 
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I want nothing more than for the current incarnation of the Republican party to die so it can be replaced with a reasonable, conservative alternative to the progressive left. I am hoping that a great number of people like me will not vote for Trump, and recognize that by taking a short term loss, the signal to the party will be that we reject the current direction, and over the long term the party will become one of reasoned discourse and rational action rather than the abomination it is today.
Short term loss? We will not recover from another session of democrat/Obama/ hate America/ socialism regime. So you will endorse the Democrat bullsh!t to teach a lesson . Wow that makes a lot of sense
 
The moderate candidate will be the nominee. The "socialist" candidate was rejected and withdrew......because he couldn't win the nomination.

It appears to me any Dem candidate, even a proven moderate, will be portrayed to be a progressive or one who will at least support a progressive platform once in office. The candidate is irrelevant to you as any Dem will go progressive. I don't think that's true, the Dem voters have made that clear with their choice of Biden.

I could make the argument that the Trump administration has clearly shown the republican party is moving toward a more authoritarian stance that is only going to get worse.



BYEBOB2020
 
First off, I'm not here to defend Biden. I do not like him.

But he's not espousing the progressive platform. You are correct that he's moved left on college tuition and environmental issues, likely because those are generally popular among the entire Dem base and more specifically are very important to younger voters. However, he's not giving free college to all or embracing the entire Green New Deal.

He also hasn't done anything close to calling for Medicare for All, and literally spent the debates fighting that very proposal.

On those three issues, he's far to the right of Bernie and even Warren. When you consider the rest of the platform, he's pretty solidly center-left.

The gist of my post above was that Biden's instincts always are in the center, and then he'll move left as the tide turns...but never really fully embraces the progressive policy. His goal now is to try to appeal to the left/young wing of the party, while not turning off the conservative leaning voter that doesn't like Trump. He undoubtedly understands that enthusiasm among the base isn't painting a pretty picture for him, and is trying to throw a bone to the left. That does not make him some thinly veiled socialist.

Younger voters don't vote, hardly ever come out in numbers that matter. Only about 30% of registered voters under 30 actually vote. So any platform focused on them is a waste of time
 
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