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But he's going to do great with minorities. With stuff like this, plus his Taco Bowl brilliance, he's going to really bring out the minority vote.

Hey Qaz, you obviously send time and energy digging up stuff on Trump. I assume it is accurate to conclude that you will vote for HRC. My take is that the most important issue in the election is the economy and good paying jobs. Who do you think is better equipped to address the economy and why do you feel that way?
 
Hey Qaz, you obviously send time and energy digging up stuff on Trump. I assume it is accurate to conclude that you will vote for HRC. My take is that the most important issue in the election is the economy and good paying jobs. Who do you think is better equipped to address the economy and why do you feel that way?
Probably not the person who thinks that people are paid too much already.
Probably not the person who thinks tax cuts for everyone while screaming about the debt makes sense.
Probably not the person who's filed bankruptcy for various companies multiple times.
Probably not the person who talks about jobs going overseas while supporting that wit his own business making stuff overseas.

I mean I could go on. What exactly about being a real estate guy makes you think he can "create good paying jobs?" What policy pronouncement has he made, and what makes you think he will keep to that since he's already said everything he says is a suggestion?

If you want to engage in the old who's right, the left or the right, on the economy, we can do that, but Donald doesn't even engage in that...he doesn't know WTF he's talking about and throws crap on the wall, usually in the form of red meat. If he had a plan other than "I've got this, don't worry about it" you'd be talking about it.
 
so when reality shows do guys vs girls is it because they are sexist? You need to climb your way back in to reality, where most people are not SJWs. No one cares about this, and no one cared about the taco bowl.
lol yes, creating a blacks v whites is JUST like creating guys v girls. And sure, Hispanics don't care about the taco bowl. You clearly have their pulse.
 
Probably not the person who thinks that people are paid too much already.
Probably not the person who thinks tax cuts for everyone while screaming about the debt makes sense.
Probably not the person who's filed bankruptcy for various companies multiple times.
Probably not the person who talks about jobs going overseas while supporting that wit his own business making stuff overseas.

I mean I could go on. What exactly about being a real estate guy makes you think he can "create good paying jobs?" What policy pronouncement has he made, and what makes you think he will keep to that since he's already said everything he says is a suggestion?

If you want to engage in the old who's right, the left or the right, on the economy, we can do that, but Donald doesn't even engage in that...he doesn't know WTF he's talking about and throws crap on the wall, usually in the form of red meat. If he had a plan other than "I've got this, don't worry about it" you'd be talking about it.
rofl you say bankruptcy like it's such a bad thing. You don't know shit about bankruptcy. Corporate bankruptcy is there to protect lenders. It's actually the legal way to resolve a failing business. I know you're so used to bailouts and QE you think those are normal.
 
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Probably not the person who thinks that people are paid too much already.
Probably not the person who thinks tax cuts for everyone while screaming about the debt makes sense.
Probably not the person who's filed bankruptcy for various companies multiple times.
Probably not the person who talks about jobs going overseas while supporting that wit his own business making stuff overseas.

I mean I could go on. What exactly about being a real estate guy makes you think he can "create good paying jobs?" What policy pronouncement has he made, and what makes you think he will keep to that since he's already said everything he says is a suggestion?

If you want to engage in the old who's right, the left or the right, on the economy, we can do that, but Donald doesn't even engage in that...he doesn't know WTF he's talking about and throws crap on the wall, usually in the form of red meat. If he had a plan other than "I've got this, don't worry about it" you'd be talking about it.

Nice rhetoric. Now pls answer the rest of the question. How is HRC better prepared to handle the economy? Following Obama's plan to lay off the legacy energy sector, create awesome numbers of minimum wage jobs for illegals, tell me please. For once I would like to see a complete response from you.
 
rofl you say bankruptcy like it's such a bad thing. You don't know shit about bankruptcy. Corporate bankruptcy is there to protect lenders. It's actually the legal way to resolve a failing business. I know you're so used to bailouts and QE you think those are normal.
I know that bankruptcy isn't about saving jobs, which was the question I responded to. I know that failing businesses aren't about saving jobs either. It is a "bad thing" when it comes to that. It's a necessary evil otherwise.
 
Nice rhetoric. Now pls answer the rest of the question. How is HRC better prepared to handle the economy? Following Obama's plan to lay off the legacy energy sector, create awesome numbers of minimum wage jobs for illegals, tell me please. For once I would like to see a complete response from you.
yep, the entire economy is based on alternative energy and illegal workers. When you stop talking silliness and get serious, I'll feel compelled to do likewise, til then it's a waste of electrons.
 
I know that bankruptcy isn't about saving jobs, which was the question I responded to. I know that failing businesses aren't about saving jobs either. It is a "bad thing" when it comes to that. It's a necessary evil otherwise.
the guy makes 100s of successful deals and you pin your judgment on the handful of unsuccessful ones that were handled legally and appropriately? Oh what a scandal...BANKRUPTCY! lol...that'll scare people.
 
the guy makes 100s of successful deals and you pin your judgment on the handful of unsuccessful ones that were handled legally and appropriately? Oh what a scandal...BANKRUPTCY! lol...that'll scare people.
what 100s of successful deals? He's a real estate guy and a reality show star. He's Snookie, if Snookie started off with 100 million dollars from her dad.

If he'd invested his boon, he'd have more money than he has now.

He won't release his tax returns because he knows that they will show he doesn't make nearly as much as he claims he does.

There truly is a sucker born every minute, and clearly you are one of em. PT Barnum would have loved you.
 
what 100s of successful deals? He's a real estate guy and a reality show star. He's Snookie, if Snookie started off with 100 million dollars from her dad.

If he'd invested his boon, he'd have more money than he has now.

He won't release his tax returns because he knows that they will show he doesn't make nearly as much as he claims he does.

There truly is a sucker born every minute, and clearly you are one of em. PT Barnum would have loved you.
lol first of all, he didn't get 100M. The whole estate was only about 250 million and it was split at LEAST 4 ways. But let's say he got 100M and invested it and made 7% a year for 40 years (the average from 1950-2009). He would have about 1.4B before any expenses which would be at least 1% so probably could really only earn about 6% which would put him right at 1B even if he started with 100M. Now he would have to pay capital gains on all that so you can knock off about 15%. Sorry to burst your sad little bubble of hate and stupidity.
 
lol first of all, he didn't get 100M. The whole estate was only about 250 million and it was split at LEAST 4 ways. But let's say he got 100M and invested it and made 7% a year for 40 years (the average from 1950-2009). He would have about 1.4B before any expenses which would be at least 1% so probably could really only earn about 6% which would put him right at 1B even if he started with 100M. Now he would have to pay capital gains on all that so you can knock off about 15%. Sorry to burst your sad little bubble of hate and stupidity.
And he's not worth 1 billion now, far from it. So my bubble remains. lol And there's evidence out there that he started with 100 million, but certainly well more than the 1 million he claims.
It's funny, everyone is so skeptical of Hillary, but Trump spits out a lies a second and blind belief.
 
And he's not worth 1 billion now, far from it. So my bubble remains. lol And there's evidence out there that he started with 100 million, but certainly well more than the 1 million he claims.
It's funny, everyone is so skeptical of Hillary, but Trump spits out a lies a second and blind belief.
I don't paint trump as a truth teller, just pointing out some flaws in your math.
 
I don't paint trump as a truth teller, just pointing out some flaws in your math.
You don't even know the math...Trump has lied so much no one knows the full math anymore. What is clear is that he received a substantial amount of money for a head start, and that as things stand now, he likely isn't worth in net much more than with what he started with.
 
You don't even know the math...Trump has lied so much no one knows the full math anymore. What is clear is that he received a substantial amount of money for a head start, and that as things stand now, he likely isn't worth in net much more than with what he started with.
bloomberg was pretty negative and put him at 2.9B and they basically didn't include any personal brand/licensing deal money. But you know, keep harping on those lwnj talking points. They are so valuable to the discussion...
 
bloomberg was pretty negative and put him at 2.9B and they basically didn't include any personal brand/licensing deal money. But you know, keep harping on those lwnj talking points. They are so valuable to the discussion...
I look forward to Donald finally giving up his tax returns where he took a deduction for people who netted less than 500K a year multiple times.
 
I look forward to Donald finally giving up his tax returns where he took a deduction for people who netted less than 500K a year multiple times.
well income and net worth are not necessarily related...but I'm sure you'll have fun anyway.
 
yep, the entire economy is based on alternative energy and illegal workers. When you stop talking silliness and get serious, I'll feel compelled to do likewise, til then it's a waste of electrons.

That's what I thought. You know nothing about her approach to jobs because she doesn't have one. HRC's approach to jobs is to bring in her hubby!!! Now that is funny. Almost as funny as your unwillingness to actually engage in an honest discussion. Your approach is to respond to others with vague ambiguous statements or generalizations.
 
That's what I thought. You know nothing about her approach to jobs because she doesn't have one. HRC's approach to jobs is to bring in her hubby!!! Now that is funny. Almost as funny as your unwillingness to actually engage in an honest discussion. Your approach is to respond to others with vague ambiguous statements or generalizations.
Right, there isn't a whole section on her website devoted to her "approach to jobs." Like I said, silliness. A serious person would look at her approach and analyze why it's right or wrong. A silly person responds as you just did.
 
Right, there isn't a whole section on her website devoted to her "approach to jobs." Like I said, silliness. A serious person would look at her approach and analyze why it's right or wrong. A silly person responds as you just did.

Below is a copy of my questions: I agree with you if you were interested in a serious discussion your would read it as I have and then analyze it to determine if you think it is viable.

Nice rhetoric. Now pls answer the rest of the question. How is HRC better prepared to handle the economy? Following Obama's plan to lay off the legacy energy sector, create awesome numbers of minimum wage jobs for illegals, tell me please. For once I would like to see a complete response from you.

The question was "how is HRC better prepared to handle the economy?" Her web pages I are full of crap that has been respun by worthless politicians for decades. The facts are that she knows nothing about job creation other than spending money. The real issue is that the Fed Gov continues to create barriers for US businesses where China, Japan, etc have gov policies that directly incentify their businesses. Trump is the only candidate who understands this.

It sure would be nice to have a real discussion sometime but that appears to be of little interest to you.
 
Below is a copy of my questions: I agree with you if you were interested in a serious discussion your would read it as I have and then analyze it to determine if you think it is viable.

Nice rhetoric. Now pls answer the rest of the question. How is HRC better prepared to handle the economy? Following Obama's plan to lay off the legacy energy sector, create awesome numbers of minimum wage jobs for illegals, tell me please. For once I would like to see a complete response from you.

The question was "how is HRC better prepared to handle the economy?" Her web pages I are full of crap that has been respun by worthless politicians for decades. The facts are that she knows nothing about job creation other than spending money. The real issue is that the Fed Gov continues to create barriers for US businesses where China, Japan, etc have gov policies that directly incentify their businesses. Trump is the only candidate who understands this.

It sure would be nice to have a real discussion sometime but that appears to be of little interest to you.
I will repeat, there is a whole section on her website that lays out her plan on the economy.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/plan-raise-american-incomes/
There are numerous news articles that talk about that plan
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...-pitches-plan-growth-fairness-economy-n391121

So asking me "what is her plan" when it's obvious what her plan is and no her webpages are not "full of crap" and involve things other than "spending money."

A serious person would get that EVEN if they disagreed with every element of her plan.

There are a myriad number of specific policy prescriptions.

Meanwhile, Trump actually doesn't have a plan. He talks in broad generalizations, with no specifics and often says ridiculous things he then has to retract like paying less than full price on GOV debt.

And the idea that you think the Chinese and Japanese economies are what we should emulate makes me realize you are even less serious.
 
I will repeat, there is a whole section on her website that lays out her plan on the economy.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/plan-raise-american-incomes/
There are numerous news articles that talk about that plan
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...-pitches-plan-growth-fairness-economy-n391121

So asking me "what is her plan" when it's obvious what her plan is and no her webpages are not "full of crap" and involve things other than "spending money."

A serious person would get that EVEN if they disagreed with every element of her plan.

There are a myriad number of specific policy prescriptions.

Meanwhile, Trump actually doesn't have a plan. He talks in broad generalizations, with no specifics and often says ridiculous things he then has to retract like paying less than full price on GOV debt.

And the idea that you think the Chinese and Japanese economies are what we should emulate makes me realize you are even less serious.
I will repeat, there is a whole section on her website that lays out her plan on the economy.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/plan-raise-american-incomes/
There are numerous news articles that talk about that plan
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...-pitches-plan-growth-fairness-economy-n391121

So asking me "what is her plan" when it's obvious what her plan is and no her webpages are not "full of crap" and involve things other than "spending money."

A serious person would get that EVEN if they disagreed with every element of her plan.

There are a myriad number of specific policy prescriptions.

Meanwhile, Trump actually doesn't have a plan. He talks in broad generalizations, with no specifics and often says ridiculous things he then has to retract like paying less than full price on GOV debt.

And the idea that you think the Chinese and Japanese economies are what we should emulate makes me realize you are even less serious.

The question was "How is HRC better prepared to handle the economy?"

You responded that her web site is full of specifics that demonstrate she has a plan. Well, her "plan" is a lot of rhetoric that appeals to segments of the population to garner votes. That is not a plan to improve the economy. Equal pay for women? Wow, that's original. Reigning in Wall Street? Good luck with that, she owes so many Wall Streeters that we know that plan is rubbish. Improving education to strengthen our workforce? Now that hasn't been discussed before has it? Setting up an infrastructure bank? Wow, we really need another bank don't we? Well, it would be another source for Willy to get 6 figure speaking fees I guess. $300 billion for college aid? We already have college grads flipping burgers.

Need I go on? The biggest issue is and has been that foreign governments have manipulated exchange rates, incentified their companies for exports, and restricted imports into their countries for decades. Our government, on the other hand has allowed foreign companies to "dump" products in our country without any penalties.Those are the reasons that jobs have been exported by the millions and our middle class decimated. That sir is the issue. I don't think HRC's "plan" addresses the core issues and I don't think she has a clue how to make real change. Her objective is to buy votes.

Trump is a totall a@@ but he does understand that we have the power in these relationships and he does understand how to negotiate a deal. I loved it when HRC responded to Anderson Cooper re why she took so much money from Goldman Sachs for speaking fees. Her answer was:" Thats what they offered!! And, I didn't think I would be running for President!! ". Really competent responses aren't they. You have to be crazy to believe that she is better prepared to handle the economy.
 
Trump is a totall a@@ but he does understand that we have the power in these relationships and he does understand how to negotiate a deal. I loved it when HRC responded to Anderson Cooper re why she took so much money from Goldman Sachs for speaking fees. Her answer was:" Thats what they offered!! And, I didn't think I would be running for President!! ". Really competent responses aren't they. You have to be crazy to believe that she is better prepared to handle the economy.

To satisfy this paragraph's criticism of Hillary, she would've had to sit down and negotiate more money from Goldman, yet the general criticism of her cronyism is that she took money from a bank at all.

I mean, do you guys recognize your own hypocrisies when you criticize Democrats and just choose to ignore them? I'm not even saying the criticism of ACA in the other thread or criticism of Hillary here are incorrect, but the arguments you guys present aren't even coherent.
 
To satisfy this paragraph's criticism of Hillary, she would've had to sit down and negotiate more money from Goldman, yet the general criticism of her cronyism is that she took money from a bank at all.

I mean, do you guys recognize your own hypocrisies when you criticize Democrats and just choose to ignore them? I'm not even saying the criticism of ACA in the other thread or criticism of Hillary here are incorrect, but the arguments you guys present aren't even coherent.
I'd obviously, being a liberal democrat would find criticisms from the right incorrect, but that doesn't mean I can't recognize that there ARE well thought out arguments on the right, even if I think they are wrong. But few folks on here seem capable of making them and it makes it rather tedious to attempt debate with most folks here.
 
I'd obviously, being a liberal democrat would find criticisms from the right incorrect, but that doesn't mean I can't recognize that there ARE well thought out arguments on the right, even if I think they are wrong. But few folks on here seem capable of making them and it makes it rather tedious to attempt debate with most folks here.
To satisfy this paragraph's criticism of Hillary, she would've had to sit down and negotiate more money from Goldman, yet the general criticism of her cronyism is that she took money from a bank at all.

I mean, do you guys recognize your own hypocrisies when you criticize Democrats and just choose to ignore them? I'm not even saying the criticism of ACA in the other thread or criticism of Hillary here are incorrect, but the arguments you guys present aren't even coherent.

I never said she should have demonstrated her abilities by negotiating more from Goldman, you did. Did you hear the audience reaction? They laughed because her comments showed that she was surprised by the question and couldn't think for a proper answer. Or even worse, that was her truthful mindset...that she was being bought. She then compounded the error by following it up with another misstatement that she wasn't thinking about running for President at that time!! OMG! These last comment points out HER hypocrisy. Hell, everyone knows that she has been planning to run since Willy was Pres or even before that!! These statements are great examples of why people don't trust her....she says whatever it takes at the moment. During the Benghazi tradgey she told one of her Aides that she would rather chew tinfoil than go on the news programs on Sunday....she sent Susan Rice. Is that the kind of leadership you want representing us with world powers? That is why a lot of people don't trust her.
 
I never said she should have demonstrated her abilities by negotiating more from Goldman, you did. Did you hear the audience reaction? They laughed because her comments showed that she was surprised by the question and couldn't think for a proper answer. Or even worse, that was her truthful mindset...that she was being bought. She then compounded the error by following it up with another misstatement that she wasn't thinking about running for President at that time!! OMG! These last comment points out HER hypocrisy. Hell, everyone knows that she has been planning to run since Willy was Pres or even before that!! These statements are great examples of why people don't trust her....she says whatever it takes at the moment. During the Benghazi tradgey she told one of her Aides that she would rather chew tinfoil than go on the news programs on Sunday....she sent Susan Rice. Is that the kind of leadership you want representing us with world powers? That is why a lot of people don't trust her.
I would prefer that leadership to the one that hoped for a housing crash so he could make more money off it.
 
I would prefer that leadership to the one that hoped for a housing crash so he could make more money off it.
And you think the Clintons are different? Their Foundation? Really? Dont you think there were thousands who got richer at the expense of others during the housing melt down , prior stock market crisis? Give me a break. 99% of our politicians get rich through their gov experience.

I heard a comment about Trump: he is a wolf in wolves clothing......he is is exactly what you see. I think that is refreshing although the crudeness certainly rubs me wrong.
 
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Do you prefer this kind of leadership too?

Yep, He's done an amazing job. Over 50% of Americans currently favorably agree. Sorry. :) He's won two elections, clearly a majority of Americans prefer his kind of leadership in spite of how much it clearly chaps you.
 
And you think the Clintons are different? Their Foundation? Really? Dont you think there were thousands who got richer at the expense of others during the housing melt down , prior stock market crisis? Give me a break. 99% of our politicians get rich through their gov experience.

I heard a comment about Trump: he is a wolf in wolves clothing......he is is exactly what you see. I think that is refreshing although the crudeness certainly rubs me wrong.
LOL Yes, I think the Clinton's were not, in fact, rooting for a housing collapse. You think rooting for a housing collapse is "refreshing." One of the many reasons I can't take you seriously.
 
I never said she should have demonstrated her abilities by negotiating more from Goldman, you did.

I don't think it was an unreasonable inference given that you mentioned Trump's ability to negotiate about one sentence before you started talking about Hillary. So you'll forgive the fact that I misinterpreted your writing given your inability to stick to a topic within a given paragraph.
 
Voting for Trump, you clearly do. He's said his positions are flexible, so again you're being hypocritical.
Recognizing that he is going to need to negotiate with congress is certainly not hypocritical. Meanwhile, HRC the crook has just been found by the State Department of violating State Dept rule for handling E Mails. SMH
 
LOL Yes, I think the Clinton's were not, in fact, rooting for a housing collapse. You think rooting for a housing collapse is "refreshing." One of the many reasons I can't take you seriously.
Now he was rooting for a housing collapse. You think the Clintons aren't taking advantage of every possibility to make money?? Cmon Qaz. I know yo are smarter than that. They have a long history of questionable and/or illegal stuff going on in their world. I guess you and gr8 are the only two people around that don't have trust issue with them.
 
Now he was rooting for a housing collapse. You think the Clintons aren't taking advantage of every possibility to make money?? Cmon Qaz. I know yo are smarter than that. They have a long history of questionable and/or illegal stuff going on in their world. I guess you and gr8 are the only two people around that don't have trust issue with them.
"I sort of hope that happens, because then people like me would go in and buy," he says. "If there is a bubble burst as they call it, you can make a lot of money."

But that's not rooting for it? Sure, ok.
 
"I sort of hope that happens, because then people like me would go in and buy," he says. "If there is a bubble burst as they call it, you can make a lot of money."

But that's not rooting for it? Sure, ok.
And the Clintons? How are they so much better than Trump? I would really
Ike to hear a direct response. How are they so much better than Trump? Pls tell me.
 
And the Clintons? How are they so much better than Trump? I would really
Ike to hear a direct response. How are they so much better than Trump? Pls tell me.
"The Clintons" aren't going to be President. Hillary is.

Hillary doesn't have white supremacists celebrating her campaign
She doesn't have a long, repeated history of bigotry and prejudice towards women, hispanics, AAs, Muslims, and pretty much every group.
She never rooted for the economy to fail.
She never worked with Mafia folks.
She never said "I'll just go talk to the NK leader personally" along with a HOST of other just batshit crazy things like "maybe we can just pay back part of our government debt."
She's actually got experience in government.
She's never used bankruptcy.
She's never said worker make too much money.
She has a series of plans and policies that are more than "I'll do great."
She's not a birther.
She never proposed that women should be punished for having an abortion.
She's not proposed a ban on an entire religion coming to this country.
She's not denigrated a war hero for being captured.
She's not an anti-vaxxer. (look it up).
She's not stated that not only is GW a myth, but that it's actually getting colder, while citing GW as a reason for building a wall for one of her coastal golf courses.
She doesn't call African-Americans "the Blacks."
She's not proposed that if she weren't her daughter, she might be dating Chelsea.
She didn't claim "Make America Great Again" was all hers, even though Reagan came up with it 35 years ago.
She didn't suggest one of her opponents dad's assassinated anyone.
She's never said that every policy position she puts forward is "just a suggestion."
She's never been asked if she would start a war with China, and if asked she wouldn't respond "who knows?"
She's never suggested our relationship with Great Britain wasn't that important because one of their leaders wasn't a supporter of hers.
She's never proposed shaking down NATO for more money and we shouldn't defend them unless they pay more and then in the very next ****ing sentence complain that Obama doesn't do enough to reassure our allies.
She's never said "What do I know about it? All I know is what's on the internet." about any subject.
She's never lied about not knowing about David Duke.
She's never favorably quoted Mussolini.
She's never said on Howard Stern that she supported the Iraq War and then claimed later that she opposed it from the start.
She's never said "Women. You have to treat them like shit."

I could go on and on. and on. and on.
 
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