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15th, maybe?

Well this team should never go without a FG for 11 plus minutes. I'm not sure why we kept the same lineup in when they struggled offensively for such a lengthy period.

Love Ivey but he needs to improve on defense. Great, when he's locked in but sometimes seems to get lazy and believes his athletic ability will overcome it.

Still think we are a top 10 team and possibly later in the year top 5. Everyone from coaching to players need to get it together.
 
Long way to go. Gotta square a lot of things up right now. They'll get back on track. To be honest if they're playing well in March it doesn't much matter to be a 1,2, or 3. Sure you want a 1, but they can still win games if they're not.
 
Long way to go. Gotta square a lot of things up right now. They'll get back on track. To be honest if they're playing well in March it doesn't much matter to be a 1,2, or 3. Sure you want a 1, but they can still win games if they're not.
Not if you’re fatally flawed with non-dynamic guards. That’s not a problem that can be fixed.
 
Long way to go. Gotta square a lot of things up right now. They'll get back on track. To be honest if they're playing well in March it doesn't much matter to be a 1,2, or 3. Sure you want a 1, but they can still win games if they're not.
Of course they can win from a 4, 5 or even 6 seed. But the numbers don't lie. #1 seed has a much better chance to win it all and it's really not close. While I'm not jumping off a ledge, to say it doesn't matter is simply not true. Seeding makes a huge difference.
 
Of course they can win from a 4, 5 or even 6 seed. But the numbers don't lie. #1 seed has a much better chance to win it all and it's really not close. While I'm not jumping off a ledge, to say it doesn't matter is simply not true. Seeding makes a huge difference.
Hence the qualifier "if they're playing well." Of course seeding makes a huge difference. I've been one of the biggest proponents of that idea over the years. If they can get the rotation squared away and start playing D against the better players they're up against, I have tremendous confidence in this team.
 
Yep. Biggest blow is that the 1 seed is likely toast.

Double digit favorites at home playing against a team with two real offensive players.

Brutal.
This team...as is...not even remotely deserving of a 1 seed. Plenty of season to go, but, as it stands, this team right now has way more questions than answers unfortunately...and that has not traditionally been the case in January, which, makes it concerning.
 
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Come on. A 1-seed is nowhere near "toast." I'm as disappointed as anyone in this performance but it's January 3rd. You can't make that conclusion.
Agree, but, Purdue has already lost two conference games that it should not have...and, looked awful in both of them.

Like say, I am ok with not playing their best basketball in January, but, the way this team is playing in January is pretty alarming.

It does not mean that it could not fix things in the next two months, but, having played two months already and seeing where they are at...I will admit that I am definitely concerned...no way I would have ever believed that Purdue would be 1-2 to begin conference play and playing like garbage for the most part come the first week of January.
 
Yep. Biggest blow is that the 1 seed is likely toast.

Double digit favorites at home playing against a team with two real offensive players.

Brutal.
Last season, Illinois lost to an awful Missouri team on the road and to a Maryland team that was way worse than Wisconsin at home, dropping to #22 in January … all on the way to a 1-seed and finishing #2.

To say Purdue can’t get a 1-seed based on this one loss is crazy. Now, maybe they don’t improve enough to get it, but their losses have hardly shut the door.
 
Last season, Illinois lost to an awful Missouri team on the road and to a Maryland team that was way worse than Wisconsin at home, dropping to #22 in January … all on the way to a 1-seed and finishing #2.

To say Purdue can’t get a 1-seed based on this one loss is crazy. Now, maybe they don’t improve enough to get it, but their losses have hardly shut the door.
Fair enough. I think it’s more about their form.
This loss wasn’t some blip on the radar. This is a trend. Unfortunately, my concern is that this is just who they are.
 
To say Purdue can’t get a 1-seed based on this one loss is crazy. Now, maybe they don’t improve enough to get it, but their losses have hardly shut the door.
You have to understand this forum. People come out of the woodwork and have meltdowns after every loss. Trust me, this forum isn't even where most of the fans are anymore.

There is entirely too much basketball left to throw in the season in January and we have gone on long runs after losses like this before.

It's also better to go through these things now long before the tourney so they can be addressed.
 
Nobody is saying we cant get the number #1 seed.
But yeah there are threads that are saying that.

All of this is fixable and we'll see how this team responds next game as the next two are going to be very critical but also winnable if we just play with some purpose.
 
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You have to understand this forum. People come out of the woodwork and have meltdowns after every loss. Trust me, this forum isn't even where most of the fans are anymore.

There is entirely too much basketball left to throw in the season in January and we have gone on long runs after losses like this before.

It's also better to go through these things now long before the tourney so they can be addressed.
It’s never a good time to lose at home as a 12+ point favorite.
 
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Unfortunately, I agree as we've dug an early hole and now it will be tough to win the Big Ten. Which makes it unlikely we are the top seed from Big come March.
 
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Agree, but, Purdue has already lost two conference games that it should not have...and, looked awful in both of them.

Like say, I am ok with not playing their best basketball in January, but, the way this team is playing in January is pretty alarming.

It does not mean that it could not fix things in the next two months, but, having played two months already and seeing where they are at...I will admit that I am definitely concerned...no way I would have ever believed that Purdue would be 1-2 to begin conference play and playing like garbage for the most part come the first week of January.
And it’s not exactly like we dominated in our win against Iowa, at home, without their best player…. If Murray was playing we are most likely looking at an 0-3 start. Just off the 3 conference games we look like a bottom tier big ten team. Need to get this turned around fast.
 
Purdue lost to a top 25 Wisconsin team. Whoop-tee-doo...

You think we're not going to lose again?
 
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Not sure what thread to throw this in, but Rutgers is now a Quad 2 loss, fairly securely. Their recent run has moved them to 116 in NET, where 135 is the top end of Quad 2 for a road game. They are the definition of Home Court Heroes though. Except for losing to Lafayette at home, they've won all their home games and lost all their road games. 5 of their next 7 are on the road.
 
Not sure what thread to throw this in, but Rutgers is now a Quad 2 loss, fairly securely. Their recent run has moved them to 116 in NET, where 135 is the top end of Quad 2 for a road game. They are the definition of Home Court Heroes though. Except for losing to Lafayette at home, they've won all their home games and lost all their road games. 5 of their next 7 are on the road.
they are tougher now w/ Baker back, who was absent when they played us.
 
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