Just trying to understand. In your estimation luck has everything to do with how high the teams are seeded?
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You're picking out a handful of shots in a game. Guys are going to hit tough shots, it happens. But if you think we lost to those teams because of "bad luck" we'll just have to agree to disagree. We played poorly and got beat, I don't think luck had anything to do with it and you do. We play to our ability in any of those upsets, and they don't happen. You look it as bad luck happening to us, I look it like we did it to ourselves by playing poorly.
Maybe I can say it a different way: In any of our losses to double digit seeds, do you think we played to our ability? Do you think we played well? Do you think CMP would say we played well? I'm saying NO to all of those and that's why I don't believe we lost because of bad luck.
No, my point in addressing the seeding was to highlight how bad of a loss it was by Purdue. There wasn't just one fluke and/or lucky play that led to the loss. Purdue just got beat over the course of 40 minutes and had nobody who could stay with/defend that guard on ALR, not even Rapheal Davis.
The UVA loss was bad luck in that the missed FT, ball going back behind halfcourt to Clark, and pass to Diakite and shot to force OT -- there was a TON of luck involved in that sequence.
Some people want to believe that luck is never a factor, yet official statistical sites like KenPom actually attempt to quantify luck in their analyses.
There are so many soul-crushing losses in our NCAAT history. Each one has a different story and reason for our demise. For the record, I never said that our losses to double digit seeds were due to luck. I was referring only to UVA and ALR. Even Boiler Deac insinuated that luck was at play against UVA.
Here's my official take on all the losses discussed in this thread:
Arkansas Little Rock -- Luck
UVA -- Luck
North Texas -- Youth (we were among the youngest teams in the NCAA that year) vs a veteran team
St. Peters -- An ugly combination of Ivey's obstinance and awful reffing
FDU -- A combo of poor offensive execution, freshmen guards hitting the "wall" and not taking the competition seriously
To answer your question more broadly, when I claim that "luck" is why we lost in those first two instances, I am not merely taking a reductionist view and blaming an isolated factor. I try to look at a whole host of things when analyzing a loss, and generally speaking it is comes down to an aggregate of little things that contributed to our downfall.
That said, there is usually a major contributing factor that sticks out more than the others. It comes down to a matter of opinion at that point, but "luck" is certainly one of those factors.
I guess just foul the sH^%^ out of them? Get them out of rhythm?! 😂
That's true...I guess one could say, you create your own luck!
The truth is, maybe Purdue has gotten exactly what it deserved!
The truth is, maybe that goes for all of life!
I like this approach. When things aren't going according to plan, just go all Cryin' Chrissy Collins on them and start fouling their best player like an angry grizzly bear.
On the Tennessee board they would be talking about the bad luck of running into Ryan Cline in 2019.
Catch Lance's feet around 11 seconds. They are pointed towards the sideline somewhat. I mentioned this in another thread someplace that it appeared Lance in the IU game over stride at times and specifically remembered this one. I don't recall his footwork having the errors this one did or him being off against IU. Then watch his feet at 3:39 when he makes it
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Tj, if it happens again in tonight’s game, you gotta relay this info to them. I’m sure you have a connection, but if not, we will have to figure one out.
In all seriousness though, when a player is just on fire, I think it would be worth it to try and foul them. Not dirty but just to get them
Out of rhythm and maybe do it once more to see if you can get in their head an throw em
Off…what else do you got to lose?!?
didn't really notice it tonight, but did notice he was too aggressive trying to score more less hunting some shots and driving when there was no place to go the first half. before the game I caught fletcher struggling a bit behind the the top of the arc and when he finally hit one he quit and moved to the FT line missed the first and hit the next and headed to the huddle to start the game. Did they show Dave Schellhase at half? I tried to record it and apparently I never got it or had it set for too few of seconds, but was going to post it here. Billy Keller was there. Jon Octeus (sp?) was there as well as Jaden Ivey
