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OT: Talk about a strange choice of words re Epstein's suicide....

The topic of military spending and strategy is always an interesting one to me. Can you help me understand exactly what needed to be "rebuilt" in the military? I know a greater budget is part of the Trump platform, but for what? Also, isn't that somewhat at odds with the fact we are trying to pull troops out of the ME? Why would we need a bigger budget for less war? I have been of the belief we spend too much on the military overall, and haven't been provided rationalization as to why we need to spend what we have been spending.
Our a Navel fleet for one. Our destroyers were outdated. Our subs need updating. Missle defenese is priority one. Not to mention increasing the pay of those who defend us. As for the VA someone talked about, I'm seeing that right here in the county I live in where new construction is taking place to house those who need it.
 
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Why was he on his show for 30 minutes?

The day after the election, Trump called him personally to THANK him.

Quoting Trump on Alex Jones: "Your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down."

John Kelly tried to personally block Alex Jones and Trump from communicating because he knew how bad it was. Yes, that means while Trump was President.

Do you call acquaintances you aren't really friends with on the biggest day of your life?
So, is this any worse than Obama’s pastor, Rev. Wright” in Chicago, saying “God damn America”? I don’t think so. For you, the only difference is that Obama could do no wrong, while Trump can do no right.
 
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So, is this any worse than Obama’s pastor, Rev. Wright” in Chicago, saying “God damn America”? I don’t think so. For you, the only difference is that Obama could do no wrong, while Trump can do no right.
Jesus Christ, they aren't even close to comparable. Have you suffered severe head trauma at some point?
 
Are you talking about
H.R.3230 - Veterans Access, Choice, and Accountability Act? The bill that Trump constantly takes credit for, despite being signed into law in 2014?
Once again you’re being disingenuous. Trump signed the VA Mission Act of 2018. The VA Mission Act goes much farther than the 2014 law does.
 
So, is this any worse than Obama’s pastor, Rev. Wright” in Chicago, saying “God damn America”? I don’t think so. For you, the only difference is that Obama could do no wrong, while Trump can do no right.

Sure, let's compare.

The controversial statements were dug up from years prior, and were not known well known amongst us. Alex Jones was very well known as conspiracy theorist, and for his position of calling things like 9/11 and Sandy Hook a hoax....when Trump appeared on his show. It was very well known what his viewpoints were.

Secondly, being ashamed of your country for certain things done in the past....is hardly the same thing as promoting a school shooting that left 20 children dead was a HOAX....or the deadliest attack on America on 9/11 was staged by the government.

Third, Obama actually spoke out against what he said. Obama said: "words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue."

Can you point to me when Trump denounced anything Alex Jones has said, including the Sandy Hook massacre?

When directly asked, Reince Preibus said: “It’s really important that all Americans understand that he is a President for everyone.”
 
So, is this any worse than Obama’s pastor, Rev. Wright” in Chicago, saying “God damn America”? I don’t think so. For you, the only difference is that Obama could do no wrong, while Trump can do no right.

Trump/Alex Jones vs Obama/Rev. Wright ??
The Hubble Space Telescope is considered by some to be able to span the greatest distances in the Universe known to man...….

It couldn't come ANYWHERE NEAR being able to observe the difference between the above....

SD: If you're not capable of calling upon the requisite awareness of this,....then you're just kind of a lost puppy-dog, to be truthful.....
 
Sure, let's compare.

The controversial statements were dug up from years prior, and were not known well known amongst us. Alex Jones was very well known as conspiracy theorist, and for his position of calling things like 9/11 and Sandy Hook a hoax....when Trump appeared on his show. It was very well known what his viewpoints were.

Secondly, being ashamed of your country for certain things done in the past....is hardly the same thing as promoting a school shooting that left 20 children dead was a HOAX....or the deadliest attack on America on 9/11 was staged by the government.

Third, Obama actually spoke out against what he said. Obama said: "words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue."

Can you point to me when Trump denounced anything Alex Jones has said, including the Sandy Hook massacre?

When directly asked, Reince Preibus said: “It’s really important that all Americans understand that he is a President for everyone.”
And yet he was in the pews, years earlier, when Rev. Wright made that statement in a sermon and said NOTHING about Wright’s words until years later when he (and Wright) got called on them. Seems convenient and politically expedient, no?
 
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Trump/Alex Jones vs Obama/Rev. Wright ??
The Hubble Space Telescope is considered by some to be able to span the greatest distances in the Universe known to man...….

It couldn't come ANYWHERE NEAR being able to observe the difference between the above....

SD: If you're not capable of calling upon the requisite awareness of this,....then you're just kind of a lost puppy-dog, to be truthful.....
Did I ever say I agreed with Alex Jones’ Sandy Hook hoax comments? Anywhere?
 
Did I ever say I agreed with Alex Jones’ Sandy Hook hoax comments? Anywhere?

C'mon SD. This deal is not about the absolute absurdity of AGREEING with whack-job Alex.
It's about comparing the 2 sets of "friends ".
And yet he was in the pews, years earlier, when Rev. Wright made that statement in a sermon and said NOTHING about Wright’s words until years later when he (and Wright) got called on them. Seems convenient and politically expedient, no?

Versions differ about when and how much Rev. Wright's sometimes inflammatory sermons were denounced and repudiated by Obama. The fault line , of course, breaks down upon (surprise, surprise ) party lines.
What we KNOW FOR SURE is that there was NO public comments from Trump, over the of years, of repudiation. NONE.
 
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List from 2016:

THE CLINTON DEAD POOL

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller committed suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor.”

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident?

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes.”

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.
 
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Once again you’re being disingenuous. Trump signed the VA Mission Act of 2018. The VA Mission Act goes much farther than the 2014 law does.
You tried to give Trump credit for something that existed in 2014. Who’s being disingenuous? Hmm.
Sorry I made you look so completely ignorant again, one of these days you may learn something.
 
Did I ever say I agreed with Alex Jones’ Sandy Hook hoax comments? Anywhere?
You pretend to care so much about Newtown, I’d think you’d harbor at least a little animosity toward a man that says it was all fake. Are you that tied to your team that dead first graders doesn’t move the needle for you?
 
List from 2016:

THE CLINTON DEAD POOL

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller committed suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor.”

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident?

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes.”

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.
Here's one for you: Bill Clinton's biological father died in a car crash before his birth...definitely suspicious I'm sure you would agree. You are welcome to add that one to your body count if you like.
 
You tried to give Trump credit for something that existed in 2014. Who’s being disingenuous? Hmm.
Sorry I made you look so completely ignorant again, one of these days you may learn something.
Eff off. Why is there a separate act in 2018? Why?
 
You pretend to care so much about Newtown, I’d think you’d harbor at least a little animosity toward a man that says it was all fake. Are you that tied to your team that dead first graders doesn’t move the needle for you?
Eff off.
 
And yet he was in the pews, years earlier, when Rev. Wright made that statement in a sermon and said NOTHING about Wright’s words until years later when he (and Wright) got called on them. Seems convenient and politically expedient, no?

I'd rather someone acknowledge it and disconnect vs. refuse to acknowledge and stay connected, no?

Again, can you point to one statement from Trump where he disavowed Alex Jones' conspiracy theory views? Including 20 little kids being murdered being a hoax?

Is the answer no?
 
List from 2016:

THE CLINTON DEAD POOL

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller committed suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor.”

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident?

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes.”

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.

Hey, just FYI....before copying/pasting, you may want to do a little research on what you're posting.

The Seth Rich murder conspiracy was planted by Russian trolls, for example.

But it's impressive you can copy and paste. Really coming along.
 
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Eff off. Why is there a separate act in 2018? Why?
Why don’t you look it up yourself? I can continually lead a horse to water but I can’t make it drink.

This is like when you claimed the Supreme Court didn’t strike down Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, they only struck down the changes that Obama made to the Voting Rights Act.
You were completely 100% wrong on every part of that assertion as well.
Is there a fake right wing website you’re reading all this made up stuff, or is it just your mind coming up with all the crap?
 
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Hey, just FYI....before copying/pasting, you may want to do a little research on what you're posting.

The Seth Rich murder conspiracy was planted by Russian trolls, for example.

But it's impressive you can copy and paste. Really coming along.
That’s about all hunkgolden is good for.
 
Hey, just FYI....before copying/pasting, you may want to do a little research on what you're posting.

The Seth Rich murder conspiracy was planted by Russian trolls, for example.

But it's impressive you can copy and paste. Really coming along.
What? You thought I had all of those Clinton related "suicides" memorized???
 
List from 2016:

THE CLINTON DEAD POOL

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller committed suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor.”

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident?

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes.”

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.

1) Hey, Hunk !!! After you solve the mysteries of the " DEAD Pool" people, you can re-open the Kennedy Assassination files to answer all the ?'s surrounding the deaths of a lot of " witnesses" that just need your Conspiracy Touch to put it all together !!!

2) I know the Challenger disaster occurred during the Reagan Administration, but didn't the Clintons get the Arkansas State Police to do that " O "-ring thing ??

3) Here's a list of the " bodyguard " deaths, updated:
* (1) suicide
* (4) died in GERMANY in helicopter crash
*(4) died in Waco standoff
* (1) killed in Oklahoma City Fed. Bldg. bomb
*(9) killed in C-130 Cargo plane crash
* (4) killed in V-22 Ospry crash
* (5) killed in plane crash in Italy
* (4) killed in helicopter crash in Quantico, VA

Boy oh boy...those Clintons oughta be adjunct professors at the Military Academies with all of their world-wide political assassination knowhow !!!

One enduring mystery, above others.....Bill's '96 Pres. opponent....Bob Dole
How'd they DO it ?? I realize he was near death in a hospice at age 95, but to get that poison into his tapioca pudding under the noses of the nurses !!! Son of a gun !!!
 
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Maybe put a little of that anger toward Alex Jones, huh? I know he’s on your team, but I think you can manage at least a slight rebuke. He’s the one attacking your community saying that those first graders didn’t actually die.
 
You tried to give Trump credit for something that existed in 2014. Who’s being disingenuous? Hmm.
Sorry I made you look so completely ignorant again, one of these days you may learn something.
You're a complete moron. The system you're referring to (Veteran's Choice Program) was replaced by this because it was found to be insufficient. The bill Trump signed had bipartisan support and is much more comprehensive. Maybe you should do some research.

VA Maintaining Internal Systems and Strengthening Integrated Outside Networks Act of 2018 or VA MISSION Act of 2018

This bill consolidates Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) community care programs, revises other VA health care programs and facilities provisions, and makes appropriations for veterans care.

The bill establishes the Veterans Community Care Program to furnish hospital care, medical services, and extended care services through certain non-VA providers to veterans who are enrolled in the VA health care system or otherwise entitled to VA care.

The VA may enter agreements with non-VA providers to furnish veterans with care that is otherwise not feasibly available.

The VA shall: (1) establish standards for VA health care quality and for non-VA care in areas of VA expertise, (2) prohibit rehiring previously-removed VA providers, (3) provide prompt payment to providers, (4) establish opioid prescribing practices for non-VA providers, and (5) carry out the modernization or realignment of Veterans Health Administration facilities.

The Veterans Choice Program is terminated after one year.

The bill establishes: (1) the Center for Innovation for Care and Payment, and (2) the Asset and Infrastructure Review Commission.

The VA may: (1) provide care for the live donor of a transplant for a veteran, and (2) carry out a Specialty Education Loan Repayment Program and other actions to recruit health care professionals.

The VA family caregiver program is expanded.

The Office of Management and Budget shall review each enhanced-use facility lease.

The bill establishes pilot programs for medical scribes, mobile deployment teams for underserved facilities, and graduate medical education.

The bill extends VA pension reductions for Medicare-covered veterans in nursing homes.
 
I'd rather someone acknowledge it and disconnect vs. refuse to acknowledge and stay connected, no?

Again, can you point to one statement from Trump where he disavowed Alex Jones' conspiracy theory views? Including 20 little kids being murdered being a hoax?

Is the answer no?
Of course it is no. And don't ask me why Trump hasn't.
 
You're a complete moron. The system you're referring to (Veteran's Choice Program) was replaced by this because it was found to be insufficient. The bill Trump signed had bipartisan support and is much more comprehensive. Maybe you should do some research.

VA Maintaining Internal Systems and Strengthening Integrated Outside Networks Act of 2018 or VA MISSION Act of 2018

This bill consolidates Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) community care programs, revises other VA health care programs and facilities provisions, and makes appropriations for veterans care.

The bill establishes the Veterans Community Care Program to furnish hospital care, medical services, and extended care services through certain non-VA providers to veterans who are enrolled in the VA health care system or otherwise entitled to VA care.

The VA may enter agreements with non-VA providers to furnish veterans with care that is otherwise not feasibly available.

The VA shall: (1) establish standards for VA health care quality and for non-VA care in areas of VA expertise, (2) prohibit rehiring previously-removed VA providers, (3) provide prompt payment to providers, (4) establish opioid prescribing practices for non-VA providers, and (5) carry out the modernization or realignment of Veterans Health Administration facilities.

The Veterans Choice Program is terminated after one year.

The bill establishes: (1) the Center for Innovation for Care and Payment, and (2) the Asset and Infrastructure Review Commission.

The VA may: (1) provide care for the live donor of a transplant for a veteran, and (2) carry out a Specialty Education Loan Repayment Program and other actions to recruit health care professionals.

The VA family caregiver program is expanded.

The Office of Management and Budget shall review each enhanced-use facility lease.

The bill establishes pilot programs for medical scribes, mobile deployment teams for underserved facilities, and graduate medical education.

The bill extends VA pension reductions for Medicare-covered veterans in nursing homes.
Congrats, you found out how to Google, hopefully this is the start of a long road to knowledge for you. The bill was signed in 2014 that let veterans get private healthcare, which your post attributed to Trump. The 2018 bill reformed that and a few others under one program. Trying to give Trump credit for something that happened in 2014 is the height of stupidity, otherwise known as just another day is SDBoiler world.
Yes or no, were veterans able to get private care because of the 2014 bill? This should be easy to answer.
 
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Congrats, you found out how to Google, hopefully this is the start of a long road to knowledge for you. The bill was signed in 2014 that let veterans get private healthcare, which your post attributed to Trump. The 2018 bill reformed that and a few others under one program. Trying to give Trump credit for something that happened in 2014 is the height of stupidity, otherwise known as just another day is SDBoiler world.
Yes or no, were veterans able to get private care because of the 2014 bill? This should be easy to answer.
Yes or no. The act you referred to was replaced by the one Trump signed in 2018. Yes or no. Trump’s bill is more comprehensive than the one signed in 2014.
Yes or no. The bill you referred to would have run out of money in 2018 had Trump not signed the 2018 bill and which replaced it completely and for good in 2019.
 
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All government programs will run out of money if not renewed.

He did update and expand it. He also said it was something that others had been trying to do for 40 some years.

He did a good thing, but it wasn't good enough for him. He had to make it sound like it was groundbreaking legislation that no one else could do. Just sign the bill, shake some hands, take your credit and move on. He has to make it about him.
 
Jesus Christ, they aren't even close to comparable. Have you suffered severe head trauma at some point?
You have the head trauma. It is so laughable when the Three Amigos on here get called on something and their responses. Nothing a Democrat ever did is comparable to anything Trump did. Get off it man you are blinded deluded idiot that thinks he owns a message board and gets his panties in a knot when he doesnt get his way
 
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Maybe put a little of that anger toward Alex Jones, huh? I know he’s on your team, but I think you can manage at least a slight rebuke. He’s the one attacking your community saying that those first graders didn’t actually die.
Dude really I wouldn't list my IQ on here, even your buddies are smarter than that. Well wait there is PF1
 
You have the head trauma. It is so laughable when the Three Amigos on here get called on something and their responses. Nothing a Democrat ever did is comparable to anything Trump did. Get off it man you are blinded deluded idiot that thinks he owns a message board and gets his panties in a knot when he doesnt get his way


Do you mean no Democrat in U.S. history? That is just beyond ridiculous.
 
You have the head trauma. It is so laughable when the Three Amigos on here get called on something and their responses. Nothing a Democrat ever did is comparable to anything Trump did. Get off it man you are blinded deluded idiot that thinks he owns a message board and gets his panties in a knot when he doesnt get his way
You seem to have quite a complex about liberals making you feel inferior. Happens a lot, does it? You have yet to make one post that has a semblance of rational thought.
 
Yes Obama signed the law that the house and Senate passed. I had a friend that used it sometime in 2015. I took him to the emergency room and they kept him in the hospital for 5 or 5 days. The VA paid the entire bill.
 
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All government programs will run out of money if not renewed.

He did update and expand it. He also said it was something that others had been trying to do for 40 some years.

He did a good thing, but it wasn't good enough for him. He had to make it sound like it was groundbreaking legislation that no one else could do. Just sign the bill, shake some hands, take your credit and move on. He has to make it about him.

Kinda like how he said he was helping out at 9/11 in front of a bunch of first responders when he signed the 9/11 responders health care bill....that should have been a literal slam dunk, but got into a dragged out process by Republicans? Yeah, he really led the way.
 
Why do you think it is "no"? Just curious from your point of view...
I don’t know why for sure. Trump is mercurial - he is what he is and does what he does.

Trump shows loyalty to those who show loyalty to him, if he thinks they can help him somehow. Alex Jones does have a following. Personally I don’t believe nearly anything Jones says. Just like I don’t believe much of what is said on CNN by Don Lemon and MSNBC by Rachel Madcow. They are all crackpots trying trying to use sensationalism to get ratings.
 
I don’t know why for sure. Trump is mercurial - he is what he is and does what he does.

Trump shows loyalty to those who show loyalty to him, if he thinks they can help him somehow. Alex Jones does have a following. Personally I don’t believe nearly anything Jones says. Just like I don’t believe much of what is said on CNN by Don Lemon and MSNBC by Rachel Madcow. They are all crackpots trying trying to use sensationalism to get ratings.

So you view Don Lemon equally to Alex Jones?

What has Don Lemon done or said that equates to calling the Sandy Hook massacre a hoax and that "no one died", believes in white genocide, pushed the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, and said the Bush administration was behind the 9/11 terror attacks.

This is the problem -- you are equating the two, which in turn NORMALIZES Alex Jones.

You don't have to agree with Don Lemon or Rachel Maddow on their views of politics - but to say they are on par with saying 9/11 was a government cover up and the murder of 20 six and seven year olds is a hoax....is absurd.

And to just shrug your shoulders about Trump working with Alex Jones....you're again normalizing it.
 
So you view Don Lemon equally to Alex Jones?

What has Don Lemon done or said that equates to calling the Sandy Hook massacre a hoax and that "no one died", believes in white genocide, pushed the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, and said the Bush administration was behind the 9/11 terror attacks.

This is the problem -- you are equating the two, which in turn NORMALIZES Alex Jones.

You don't have to agree with Don Lemon or Rachel Maddow on their views of politics - but to say they are on par with saying 9/11 was a government cover up and the murder of 20 six and seven year olds is a hoax....is absurd.

And to just shrug your shoulders about Trump working with Alex Jones....you're again normalizing it.
That's the logical thinking, or lack thereof, that SDBoiler uses with anything.

Someone gets shot in the head.
Someone gets shot in the foot.

SDBoiler's take: Both people were shot, it's the same thing.
 
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So you view Don Lemon equally to Alex Jones?

What has Don Lemon done or said that equates to calling the Sandy Hook massacre a hoax and that "no one died", believes in white genocide, pushed the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, and said the Bush administration was behind the 9/11 terror attacks.

This is the problem -- you are equating the two, which in turn NORMALIZES Alex Jones.

You don't have to agree with Don Lemon or Rachel Maddow on their views of politics - but to say they are on par with saying 9/11 was a government cover up and the murder of 20 six and seven year olds is a hoax....is absurd.

And to just shrug your shoulders about Trump working with Alex Jones....you're again normalizing it.
I am not normalizing Alex Jones, because I see Lemon and Madcow, as carnival barkers just like Jones is. They all suck. You make it sound like Trump goes on Alex Jones’ show EVERY damn day. No, just no.

You speak about hoaxes. Madcow and Lemon pushed the Russian collusion hoax for almost 3 years. It’s doesn’t matter to you what the truth is - you want to see Trump publicly disgraced and jailed for some kind, any kind of offense. He had the audacity to beat your preferred candidate. I get it - you don’t like Trump. You go out of your way every day to make sure people feel your contempt for him.
 
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