Worried About Losing Commits

[Rose Bowl Boilers]

I knew we were going to lose some commits, but I never thought they would be WRs in this new offense. I assume that Brohm has pushed them out the door, but is it too many especially with the other positions? What do you guys think?

Will Brohm get better recruits than the ones he is losing?

 

[nat100]

Not worried. We have Hayes, Edwards and Hamilton committed and the prospect of two more JUCO WRs. 5 in one class is more than enough.

 

[BoilerInChiTown]

I knew we were going to lose some commits, but I never thought they would be WRs in this new offense. I assume that Brohm has pushed them out the door, but is it too many especially with the other positions? What do you guys think?

Will Brohm get better recruits than the ones he is losing?

Not sure about better, but certainly better fit for Brohm system. I just hope Brohm and staff have some replacements in the work.
BTW, Yeast is gone. He just committed to Louisville for the poster who mentioned he below.

 

[TheBoris]

Sorry to be a Debby Downer but if you guys are expecting a great recruiting class this year, you're going to be disappointed. I think Brohm will be a good coach for us in the long haul but 95% of this year's recruiting class is locked in and we're now fighting over the scraps.

 

[Rose Bowl Boilers]

Sorry to be a Debby Downer but if you guys are expecting a great recruiting class this year, you're going to be disappointed. I think Brohm will be a good coach for us in the long haul but 95% of this year's recruiting class is locked in and we're now fighting over the scraps.

That is why I was worried. We are letting go of some guys who have been committed for a long time to pick up JC guys or others off the scrap heap?

 

[OldStyle1902]

Trust in the Brohm Squad

 

[Fan4Life]

I knew we were going to lose some commits, but I never thought they would be WRs in this new offense. I assume that Brohm has pushed them out the door, but is it too many especially with the other positions? What do you guys think?

Will Brohm get better recruits than the ones he is losing?

I don't think we can judge the coaching staff much on what recruits decommit. These are high school kids that got to know a coach/coaches before verballed. Now all of those coaches are gone. It makes everyting think a bit. Good luck to those kids. Thanks for those that are staying with Purdue. Now let's get this train back on the track.

 

[Summy1]

It's not like we are losing 4 or 5 star players. If you think about it, they agreed to play for Hazell. Did you read that, I said Hazell. He is one of the all time worse coaches in the Big Ten. Brohm is making adjustments and getting his type of players in here. Brohm knows what he is doing.

 

[BoilerBloodline]

Sorry to be a Debby Downer but if you guys are expecting a great recruiting class this year, you're going to be disappointed. I think Brohm will be a good coach for us in the long haul but 95% of this year's recruiting class is locked in and we're now fighting over the scraps.

When you see water partially filling a cup, what do you call it? My optimism is hit & miss but I can see you driving nails through your hands as you watch Purdue Sports. I could be wrong but...

 

[StickPurdue]

Sorry to be a Debby Downer but if you guys are expecting a great recruiting class this year, you're going to be disappointed. I think Brohm will be a good coach for us in the long haul but 95% of this year's recruiting class is locked in and we're now fighting over the scraps.

CJB is still in the mix for some very good Dlinemen. If he can add McDougle and Harris (both have very impressive offers on the table). CJB is also trying for Yeast. Those are high caliber recruits and far from scrap. He may not land them, but he is trying for them. I think he pulls an upset and lands at least one of them and I would be elated if he could land 2. I like this recruiting class much more now than I did when Hazel was removed. Higher recruits should happen once he has a full year. It is far easier to sell a Big Ten school over Western Kentucky so I look for his recruiting to improve especially once he shows what he can do as a coach. I expected him to be in the 50s and considered that a win. He has stayed pretty steady in the 60s, but landing a few of the players I mentioned above should move him into the 50s and give Purdue the best class they have seen in many years.

 

[SDBoiler1]

I knew we were going to lose some commits, but I never thought they would be WRs in this new offense. I assume that Brohm has pushed them out the door, but is it too many especially with the other positions? What do you guys think?

Will Brohm get better recruits than the ones he is losing?

Look at the offers of the WRs being "cut". They probably didn't warrant Purdue or BIG-level offers to begin with. Harris had MAC offers pretty much (ok he had Iowa State too). This guy is tall and skinny and not particularly fast or quick.

Perry is tiny and pretty fast. We already have Hamilton in this mold, who's still bigger and faster. His other good offers are Cincinnati and NC ST (who I don't believe has room for him anymore.) He's got a lot of offers from small, not-so-great football schools.

Brohm has already recruited better guys (like DJ Edwards) and JUCO's Issac Zico and Wright. He kept Hamilton and CJ Hayes from decommitting. He recruited a hybrid TE/WR in Darius Pittman.

Edwards, CJ Hayes, and Hamilton have the makings of being stars in Brohm's system. I mean that. They are talented players. If Brohm gets Zico or Wright, who will likely be able to play immediately, and that's much better for Purdue.

 

[SunnyFL24]

Sorry to be a Debby Downer but if you guys are expecting a great recruiting class this year, you're going to be disappointed. I think Brohm will be a good coach for us in the long haul but 95% of this year's recruiting class is locked in and we're now fighting over the scraps.

Nobody is expecting a "GREAT" recruiting class. It's decent class.........Just need Brohm to pull some Tiller magic and actually coach these kids "UP"!!!

 

[boilerpt]

My guess is that "re-opening" his options is due in large part to Purdue not being one anymore. We've seen Brohm target a number of WRs and Harris hasn't been a named that's been mentioned.

 

[Wolegib]

I would agree with the majority of positive posts made. When I review the recruits that left, they were on the lower level of our recruiting rankings and were not receiving much interest from other power 5 schools other than Purdue. Our average recruit ranking has increased significantly by their departure. I have a feeling Brohm encouraged them to look elsewhere. I say that after seeing a tweet by one of the recruits that is staying talking about Brohm visiting his home.

And I've followed Purdue recruiting closely the last 4 years. The recruits Brohm is targeting and bringing in for official visits are not leftovers. they are athletes who are ranked significantly higher than the players previously recruited by Hazell's staff, and the players who decommitted.

Nothing against Hazell and Parker, but Purdue recruiting under Brohm has taken a new level of importance and player targeting and recruiting is now at an even higher level and still climbing within just one month.

 

[PaBoiler78]

I would agree with the majority of positive posts made. When I review the recruits that left, they were on the lower level of our recruiting rankings and were not receiving much interest from other power 5 schools other than Purdue. Our average recruit ranking has increased significantly by their departure. I have a feeling Brohm encouraged them to look elsewhere. I say that after seeing a tweet by one of the recruits that is staying talking about Brohm visiting his home.

And I've followed Purdue recruiting closely the last 4 years. The recruits Brohm is targeting and bringing in for official visits are not leftovers. they are athletes who are ranked significantly higher than the players previously recruited by Hazell's staff, and the players who decommitted.

Nothing against Hazell and Parker, but Purdue recruiting under Brohm has taken a new level of importance and player targeting and recruiting is now at an even higher level and still climbing within just one month.

who knows maybe Khalil Newton can be had from w. ken. a 3 star WR w/ some decent offers.

 

[ptree06]

I would agree with the majority of positive posts made. When I review the recruits that left, they were on the lower level of our recruiting rankings and were not receiving much interest from other power 5 schools other than Purdue. Our average recruit ranking has increased significantly by their departure. I have a feeling Brohm encouraged them to look elsewhere. I say that after seeing a tweet by one of the recruits that is staying talking about Brohm visiting his home.

And I've followed Purdue recruiting closely the last 4 years. The recruits Brohm is targeting and bringing in for official visits are not leftovers. they are athletes who are ranked significantly higher than the players previously recruited by Hazell's staff, and the players who decommitted.

Nothing against Hazell and Parker, but Purdue recruiting under Brohm has taken a new level of importance and player targeting and recruiting is now at an even higher level and still climbing within just one month.

I think the Haze was just trying to fill classes, especially in Jan. Given the state of the program it made sense to bring in guys we had a good shot of landing.

Hopefully Brohm wins some games next year and doesn't fall into same cycle

 

[Indy_Rider]

That is why I was worried. We are letting go of some guys who have been committed for a long time to pick up JC guys or others off the scrap heap?

We need so much help in so many areas, if we are overloaded in one area for commits, then guess it makes sense to move away from some to try and balance out the recruiting class with other areas of need.

 

[Wolegib]

A difference between this January and the January when Hazell took over. We are seeing Brohm going after players to address needs rather than just any 3* player to fill out our recruiting class and boost our class ranking. And we are seeing Brohm go after some 4* recruits rather than saying the class is good enough and we'll regroup and start gearing up our recruiting with next year's class. The wait until next year recruiting philosophy is gone. We are seeing Brohm look to all sources of recruits including JuCos and grad transfers where Hazell never tapped either source until last year. And finally, you are seeing twice as many recruits coming for visits on weekends, and Brohm spending the other days at schools and houses rather than behind a desk at Purdue. Brohm is a workaholic compared to Hazell who was a nice gentleman who came to work.

 

[SDBoiler1]

A difference between this January and the January when Hazell took over. We are seeing Brohm going after players to address needs rather than just any 3* player to fill out our recruiting class and boost our class ranking. And we are seeing Brohm go after some 4* recruits rather than saying the class is good enough and we'll regroup and start gearing up our recruiting with next year's class. The wait until next year recruiting philosophy is gone. We are seeing Brohm look to all sources of recruits including JuCos and grad transfers where Hazell never tapped either source until last year. And finally, you are seeing twice as many recruits coming for visits on weekends, and Brohm spending the other days at schools and houses rather than behind a desk at Purdue. Brohm is a workaholic compared to Hazell who was a nice gentleman who came to work.

Brohm is a nice gentleman who works his a$$ off. Brohm earns his keep while Hazell didn't put in the time he needed to. He tried to be a CEO coach, which doesn't work at a school like Purdue unless you are a master tactician, which Hazell never was.

 

[boilerpt]

A difference between this January and the January when Hazell took over. We are seeing Brohm going after players to address needs rather than just any 3* player to fill out our recruiting class and boost our class ranking. And we are seeing Brohm go after some 4* recruits rather than saying the class is good enough and we'll regroup and start gearing up our recruiting with next year's class. The wait until next year recruiting philosophy is gone. We are seeing Brohm look to all sources of recruits including JuCos and grad transfers where Hazell never tapped either source until last year. And finally, you are seeing twice as many recruits coming for visits on weekends, and Brohm spending the other days at schools and houses rather than behind a desk at Purdue. Brohm is a workaholic compared to Hazell who was a nice gentleman who came to work.

It's nice to see an aggressive approach to recruiting. I hope that he'll do much more game day visits than DH did as well. I never understood waiting until after the season to bring a kid in...other than not wanting them to see the product on the field.

 

[TheBoris]

Brohm is a nice gentleman who works his a$$ off. Brohm earns his keep while Hazell didn't put in the time he needed to. He tried to be a CEO coach, which doesn't work at a school like Purdue unless you are a master tactician, which Hazell never was.

It really wasn't Hazell's fault, he is what he is. Burke made a knee-jerk decision and ended up with a terrible hire. Haze had been a HC for only one season and his history as a recruiter was essentially unknown.

Burke should have done what Bobinski did when hiring Brohm: months of planning, private search firm, BOT involvement, and hire someone with a track record.

 

[SDBoiler1]

It really wasn't Hazell's fault, he is what he is. Burke made a knee-jerk decision and ended up with a terrible hire. Haze had been a HC for only one season and his history as a recruiter was essentially unknown.

Burke should have done what Bobinski did when hiring Brohm: months of planning, private search firm, BOT involvement, and hire someone with a track record.

I don't agree. Hazell and his agent bamboozled Burke and Hazell quickly got in over his head. He had no business being HC at a BIG school.

 

[Boiler1219]

It really wasn't Hazell's fault, he is what he is. Burke made a knee-jerk decision and ended up with a terrible hire. Haze had been a HC for only one season and his history as a recruiter was essentially unknown.

Burke should have done what Bobinski did when hiring Brohm: months of planning, private search firm, BOT involvement, and hire someone with a track record.

Terrible argument for saying "it wasn't really Hazell's fault". He is what he is...really.

 

[nat100]

It really wasn't Hazell's fault, he is what he is. Burke made a knee-jerk decision and ended up with a terrible hire. Haze had been a HC for only one season and his history as a recruiter was essentially unknown.

Burke should have done what Bobinski did when hiring Brohm: months of planning, private search firm, BOT involvement, and hire someone with a track record.

2 years of HC experience.

 

[StateStreet123]

I knew we were going to lose some commits, but I never thought they would be WRs in this new offense. I assume that Brohm has pushed them out the door, but is it too many especially with the other positions? What do you guys think?

Will Brohm get better recruits than the ones he is losing?

I do not think we have had a single decommitment yet that wasn't 'instigated' by Brohm. Now if Mackey decommits that would be different. But to date, Brohm's evaluation of what the roster needs didnt include everyone DH had on board. I hate for that to happen to any kid, but I believe Brohm has been honest and helpful in the proces...and has done so quickly rather than screwing a kid over the day before signing day. And to answer your question directly..Yes, I do think he will get better recruits that fit into what he is doing.

And as for those that wanted Potts and White (both of whom committed to Cincy); I do not believe Brohm pursued either for a variety of reasons.

 

[SDBoiler1]

I do not think we have had a single decommitment yet that wasn't 'instigated' by Brohm. Now if Mackey decommits that would be different. But to date, Brohm's evaluation of what the roster needs didnt include everyone DH had on board. I hate for that to happen to any kid, but I believe Brohm has been honest and helpful in the proces...and has done so quickly rather than screwing a kid over the day before signing day. And to answer your question directly..Yes, I do think he will get better recruits that fit into what he is doing.

And as for those that wanted Potts and White (both of whom committed to Cincy); I do not believe Brohm pursued either for a variety of reasons.

I think Purdue keeps Mackey in the fold. Agree about Potts and White - grades, other baggage.)

 

[Wolegib]

from all posts on this board, Potts was never interested in Purdue. But Hazell and freeman were interested in Potts. White also struck up a relationship with Freeman and they were re-united at Cincy. Given a choice, I would rather have Williams over White. With White, he would have had to learn a new position. And I'm the same guy who has said we do not need to recruit 6 Dbs every year. It does appear that Brohm was proactive in encouraging many of Hazell's recruits to leave. For many that left, we were their best offer.

and being the critical guy I am, I'm not excited about Brohm's defensive line targets. I am surprised Brohm hasn't received a commitment from Sharpe.

and I'm kind of curious . about Brohm's recruitment of Yeast. He's one of Louisville's best recruits. We could definitely use him at either WR or DB. I'm not sure what his best position is. Coach's don't usually go after committed players, unless there is some sign the player may change their mind. And it almost appears that Yeast is Brohm's #1 target and priority. I'm curious to learn the inside scoop of why we are actively pursuing him.

I do like the idea of plugging holes with 5th year seniors who started for power 5 schools. This provides both experience and a winning attitude.

it will be interesting how this second weekend plays out. There may be a couple more decomits. It happens. I have no inside information. It's just some names haven't been mentioned by anybody in over 3 months. Anybody heard anything about Malcom Robinson?

 

[Bullwhip Griffith]

2 years of HC experience.

He should have retired on top

 

[SDBoiler1]

from all posts on this board, Potts was never interested in Purdue. But Hazell and freeman were interested in Potts. White also struck up a relationship with Freeman and they were re-united at Cincy. Given a choice, I would rather have Williams over White. With White, he would have had to learn a new position. And I'm the same guy who has said we do not need to recruit 6 Dbs every year. It does appear that Brohm was proactive in encouraging many of Hazell's recruits to leave. For many that left, we were their best offer.

and being the critical guy I am, I'm not excited about Brohm's defensive line targets. I am surprised Brohm hasn't received a commitment from Sharpe.

and I'm kind of curious . about Brohm's recruitment of Yeast. He's one of Louisville's best recruits. We could definitely use him at either WR or DB. I'm not sure what his best position is. Coach's don't usually go after committed players, unless there is some sign the player may change their mind. And it almost appears that Yeast is Brohm's #1 target and priority. I'm curious to learn the inside scoop of why we are actively pursuing him.

I do like the idea of plugging holes with 5th year seniors who started for power 5 schools. This provides both experience and a winning attitude.

it will be interesting how this second weekend plays out. There may be a couple more decomits. It happens. I have no inside information. It's just some names haven't been mentioned by anybody in over 3 months. Anybody heard anything about Malcom Robinson?

Malcolm Robinson is going nowhere but to Purdue.

We are recruiting better athletes for the DL, especially DE. I don't have a problem with what Brohm's doing here. Recruiting good DTs is not easy and the ones you typically want are already committed by now.

As for Yeast, Brohm and Yeast's father know each other from their earlier days in KY. Yeast's father played for UK as a WR, and he was a good one in college. Brohm is leaning on his connection with the father and with Yeast's HS coach.

FWIW, the Yeast family had Brohm over for dinner the other night. I'd say that's a very good sign. Doesn't mean we get him, but the Yeast's don't have to do that. They did anyway. Russ Yeast could start right away at DB or WR for Purdue.

 

[Purdue85]

I don't agree. Hazell and his agent bamboozled Burke and Hazell quickly got in over his head. He had no business being HC at a BIG school.

Oh, dear lord . . . do you realize the people involved in the search that landed DH???

 

[peytonrules]

Fwiw notre dame just offered yeast and he is visiting there this weekend.

 

[SDBoiler1]

Oh, dear lord . . . do you realize the people involved in the search that landed DH???

Of course, I do. Rick Smith, Ryan Grigson, Jim Tressel, etc.

 

[boilermaker75]

He should have retired on top

He did and he picked West Lafayette to retire to!

 

[Boilermaker]

He did and he picked West Lafayette to retire to!

Boom! Drop the mic as you walk off the stage. Well played sir, well played.

 

[nat100]

Oh, dear lord . . . do you realize the people involved in the search that landed DH???

Hazell was a panic hire. Burke whiffed on his first target and was left with no good options

 

[Purdue85]

Of course, I do. Rick Smith, Ryan Grigson, Jim Tressel, etc.

soooo.... he "bamboozled" all those . . . (and more) . . .

 

[Purdue85]

Hazell was a panic hire. Burke whiffed on his first target and was left with no good options

Burke, et al.

Panicked.

No other options.

 

[bled1720]

Malcolm Robinson is going nowhere but to Purdue.

We are recruiting better athletes for the DL, especially DE. I don't have a problem with what Brohm's doing here. Recruiting good DTs is not easy and the ones you typically want are already committed by now.

As for Yeast, Brohm and Yeast's father know each other from their earlier days in KY. Yeast's father played for UK as a WR, and he was a good one in college. Brohm is leaning on his connection with the father and with Yeast's HS coach.

FWIW, the Yeast family had Brohm over for dinner the other night. I'd say that's a very good sign. Doesn't mean we get him, but the Yeast's don't have to do that. They did anyway. Russ Yeast could start right away at DB or WR for Purdue.

Good call.

 

[boiler800]

from all posts on this board, Potts was never interested in Purdue. But Hazell and freeman were interested in Potts. White also struck up a relationship with Freeman and they were re-united at Cincy. Given a choice, I would rather have Williams over White. With White, he would have had to learn a new position. And I'm the same guy who has said we do not need to recruit 6 Dbs every year. It does appear that Brohm was proactive in encouraging many of Hazell's recruits to leave. For many that left, we were their best offer.

and being the critical guy I am, I'm not excited about Brohm's defensive line targets. I am surprised Brohm hasn't received a commitment from Sharpe.

and I'm kind of curious . about Brohm's recruitment of Yeast. He's one of Louisville's best recruits. We could definitely use him at either WR or DB. I'm not sure what his best position is. Coach's don't usually go after committed players, unless there is some sign the player may change their mind. And it almost appears that Yeast is Brohm's #1 target and priority. I'm curious to learn the inside scoop of why we are actively pursuing him.

I do like the idea of plugging holes with 5th year seniors who started for power 5 schools. This provides both experience and a winning attitude.

it will be interesting how this second weekend plays out. There may be a couple more decomits. It happens. I have no inside information. It's just some names haven't been mentioned by anybody in over 3 months. Anybody heard anything about Malcom Robinson?

I don't think Sharpe has ever actually been offered by Purdue. He is on the wait and see list, and would clearly accept if offered. He can't commit without first being offered.

 

[SDBoiler1]

Good call.

You got me. And BTW, f Little PJ.