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You must live in a liberal cocoon. Obama attacked FOX News many, many times. A few examples:









SD, they know he attacked FOX NEWS. He attacked anyone who was against him. But they just can't handle a non-politician making decisions that are absolutely making the entire country...black, white, hispanic, male/female...better. Again, they know all of this to be true, but he's not a liberal, hell bent on giving everything to those who don't want to work, and who want to destroy this country. Amazingly, they never bring up Obama's daddy, George Soros, who is now working with Iran.

https://clarionproject.org/george-soros-working-closely-with-iran/
 
The total volume of the attacks by Obama on those videos adds up to about two tweets from Trump. No one can deny Obama complained about Fox.......but the volume and frequency and vitriol is not the same. Trump does it every day, "Enemy of the people", "horrible, disgusting people".......on and on. I don't know how you can make this argument with a straight face.
Indy35 tried to. He called me a liar. I wasn’t lying. Obama attacked FOX News on multiple occasions.
 
SD, they know he attacked FOX NEWS. He attacked anyone who was against him. But they just can't handle a non-politician making decisions that are absolutely making the entire country...black, white, hispanic, male/female...better. Again, they know all of this to be true, but he's not a liberal, hell bent on giving everything to those who don't want to work, and who want to destroy this country. Amazingly, they never bring up Obama's daddy, George Soros, who is now working with Iran.

https://clarionproject.org/george-soros-working-closely-with-iran/
George Soros is a truly evil man.
 
SD, they know he attacked FOX NEWS. He attacked anyone who was against him. But they just can't handle a non-politician making decisions that are absolutely making the entire country...black, white, hispanic, male/female...better. Again, they know all of this to be true, but he's not a liberal, hell bent on giving everything to those who don't want to work, and who want to destroy this country. Amazingly, they never bring up Obama's daddy, George Soros, who is now working with Iran.

https://clarionproject.org/george-soros-working-closely-with-iran/

You guys are deranged.
 
You guys are deranged.
We’re deranged? There is absolutely no way to reason with you. Your first instinct is to attack those who disagree with you. Your second instinct is to attack those who disagree with you. As is your third. You have an acute case of TDS. Basically anyone who says much of anything positive about the President is scorned, ridiculed, and attacked because of what they believe.

For you, it’s impossible to separate Trump’s policies from Trump the man. I’ve said repeatedly he is a flawed man. Just because I like most of his policies doesn’t mean I like the way he acts. He can be a petulant child. Often, so can you. The difference obviously is that he’s the President of the USA and you’re a Progressive prick on a message board who hates everything about him and by association hates anyone who supports him in any fashion.
 
This is the type of blather, from both sides, that is an absolutely cancerous lesion on the ability of the country to act sensibly.
I am disgusted by this type of thinking, again on both sides.
Sorry, but there’s a fair amount of evidence showing I’m right about Soros. What makes you think you’re the arbiter of truth on here?
 
Sorry, but there’s a fair amount of evidence showing I’m right about Soros. What makes you think you’re the arbiter of truth on here?
Is this the same evidence that you said about the Obama gay bathhouses was true? Is it the same evidence where you said Section 4 of the Voting Rights Act was rewritten by Obama in 2013 and that's what was struck down? Seems that you don't understand what evidence is.
 
Is this the same evidence that you said about the Obama gay bathhouses was true? Is it the same evidence where you said Section 4 of the Voting Rights Act was rewritten by Obama in 2013 and that's what was struck down? Seems that you don't understand what evidence is.
You’re the shoo be doo master. Constantly deflecting. It doesn’t matter what you’re presented because you won’t believe it, even if it smacks you right between the eyes.
 
You’re the shoo be doo master. Constantly deflecting. It doesn’t matter what you’re presented because you won’t believe it, even if it smacks you right between the eyes.
YOU made those claims. Talk about projection, you say I'm deflecting but you can't back up your own claims. Provide the evidence that Obama frequented gay bath houses, provide the evidence that Obama rewrote section 4 of the voting rights act in 2013. If the evidence is so clear that it could hit me right between the eyes you shouldn't have any trouble providing it right?
 
While short, your reply speaks volumes.
You blather about “acting sensibly” yet for this thread have given no indication what the hell that means.

You gave no information refuting what I said about Soros. Do you know the organizations around the world he funds? He’s a large part of the open borders crowd. He wants a socialistic one-world type of government. He’s stated this publically. He openly tries to undermine governments. He throws his money around to sow dissension and discord. He seems to loathe democratic republics where citizens have rights and can overrule the desires of a few globalist elites.

Maybe I should have used the term “dangerous man” instead of “evil man”.
 
We’re deranged? There is absolutely no way to reason with you. Your first instinct is to attack those who disagree with you. Your second instinct is to attack those who disagree with you. As is your third. You have an acute case of TDS. Basically anyone who says much of anything positive about the President is scorned, ridiculed, and attacked because of what they believe.

For you, it’s impossible to separate Trump’s policies from Trump the man. I’ve said repeatedly he is a flawed man. Just because I like most of his policies doesn’t mean I like the way he acts. He can be a petulant child. Often, so can you. The difference obviously is that he’s the President of the USA and you’re a Progressive prick on a message board who hates everything about him and by association hates anyone who supports him in any fashion.
SDBoiler, yeah you are off the rails a bit. It's okay you lack insight into it. If you truly beieve that Obama said about fox news is in any way comparable to what Trump says about CNN/NYtimes etc, or any of the crap about gay bath houses etc, then you are indeed deranged.
 
The Kavanaugh hearing has been an utter embarrassment. Agree with him or disagree with him-fine. He is more qualified and has more of a detailed history than any other recent nominee. Not sure it is close.
my problem is not with any of the Trump nominees, it's the fact that Obama's last nominee didn't get a hearing. That was wrong and set a precedent that will someday be disastrous
 
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Man, the way you guys try to excuse what Trump does.......and bend over backwards trying to equate his actions to Obamas, is truly unbelievable.

Take the lies. "He lied plenty. They all do." What a complete and utterly ridiculous rationalization. Trump lies EVERY DAY, multiple times. I'm not talking about a "Depends on how you interpret it" lie, or a "He exaggerated the numbers" lie. I'm talking about unmitigated, not even close, "WTF are you talking about", "knock it out of the park" lies. He is a serial liar, so much so that his own lawyers won't let him talk to Mueller......Because HE WILL get caught LYING.

JFC how do you continue to excuse this?
To be honest, Trump DOES not lie. He truly doesn't. The lies-truth axis just does not exist in his world. He basically just says whatever he needs to say/feels like saying at that particular moment for whatever purpose he is trying to communicate which usually is seeking praise and attention. He has no care in the world whether what is said is factual or not, makes sense or not, contradicts what he said earlier or not. He just doesn't care. He just makes a bombastic statement and moves on. Catch him tomorrow at a different moment, and he will say something else entirely. It's his idiotic followers that think there is a method to his madness. There isn't. The man is just crazy
 
To be honest, Trump DOES not lie. He truly doesn't. The lies-truth axis just does not exist in his world. He basically just says whatever he needs to say/feels like saying at that particular moment for whatever purpose he is trying to communicate which usually is seeking praise and attention. He has no care in the world whether what is said is factual or not, makes sense or not, contradicts what he said earlier or not. He just doesn't care. He just makes a bombastic statement and moves on. Catch him tomorrow at a different moment, and he will say something else entirely. It's his idiotic followers that think there is a method to his madness. There isn't. The man is just crazy

"Just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it."
 
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This is the type of blather, from both sides, that is an absolutely cancerous lesion on the ability of the country to act sensibly.
I am disgusted by this type of thinking, again on both sides.
Here's a little light reading for you (and BuilderBob) about George Soros, "Connoisseur of Chaos".

https://www.city-journal.org/html/connoisseur-chaos-14954.html

https://www.city-journal.org/html/exposing-elites-9650.html

https://www.catholicjournal.us/2016/10/11/george-soros-world-disorder/

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/17/...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
 
Interesting reading with little new insight. I did find it particularly interesting that you included the NYT article as support that Soros is evil given it noted that
After the fall of the Berlin Wall, in 1989, he poured hundreds of millions of dollars into the former Soviet-bloc countries to promote civil society and liberal democracy. It was a one-man Marshall Plan for Eastern Europe, a private initiative without historical precedent. It was also a gamble that a part of the world that had mostly known tyranny would embrace ideas like government accountability and ethnic tolerance. In London in the 1950s, Soros was a student of the expatriated Austrian philosopher Karl Popper, who championed the notion of an “open society,” in which individual liberty, pluralism and free inquiry prevailed. Popper’s concept became Soros’s cause.
He is who he is. He believes what he believes. I see nothing inherently evil. I understand that the farther one politically is right of center the more dangerous he appears, so be it. He is not the devil, but does make quite the whipping boy.
I am far more concerned with Donald Trump while you clearly are not so I will just continue to cancel your ballot with mine.
 
Interesting reading with little new insight. I did find it particularly interesting that you included the NYT article as support that Soros is evil given it noted that

He is who he is. He believes what he believes. I see nothing inherently evil. I understand that the farther one politically is right of center the more dangerous he appears, so be it. He is not the devil, but does make quite the whipping boy.
I am far more concerned with Donald Trump while you clearly are not so I will just continue to cancel your ballot with mine.
I included the NYT not as proof of him being evil but as a counterbalance to the other articles which read as much more damning. The NYT article does not not paint him in a completely positive light but is much more forgiving and brushes aside many of his most vexing accusations.

So the fact that Soros funds hundreds of NGOs to try to promote democratic socialism doesn’t bother you. He tries to warp our political system with his billions and promotes his evil Open Borders philosophy. He wants a one-world government. He wants to eliminate national sovereignty. He wants to make it so bureaucrats in a place like Brussels decide what you can and cannot do, what is legal or is not legal.....You will lose your individual freedoms in that system. You will be beholden to the one-world government to decide what is good for you. I say eff that.
 
You have a fixation on evil apparently "evil Open Borders philosophy"
Hitler was evil. Stalin was evil.
Trump - no. Soros - no. You - no.
Things that you disagree with are seldom evil. They may be silly, ill thought out, even dumb, but seldom evil.
Your use of evil diminishes how horrible truly evil things actually are.
 
You have a fixation on evil apparently "evil Open Borders philosophy"
Hitler was evil. Stalin was evil.
Trump - no. Soros - no. You - no.
Things that you disagree with are seldom evil. They may be silly, ill thought out, even dumb, but seldom evil.
Your use of evil diminishes how horrible truly evil things actually are.
Don't lecture me about evil. I lived through the Sandy Hook tragedy and the lives devastated by deranged lunatic Adam Lanza.
 
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YOU made those claims. Talk about projection, you say I'm deflecting but you can't back up your own claims. Provide the evidence that Obama frequented gay bath houses, provide the evidence that Obama rewrote section 4 of the voting rights act in 2013. If the evidence is so clear that it could hit me right between the eyes you shouldn't have any trouble providing it right?
Obama and gay bathhouses - it's been reported. You may not like the evidence, but there is some. Larry Sinclair says he had a liaison with Obama in Chicagoland while Obama was a State Senator. If he did this, it's not a stretch at all that he frequented gay bathhouses, including the now closed Man's Country Bathhouse.



https://www.wnd.com/2012/09/claim-obama-hid-gay-life-to-become-president/

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/08/barack-obama-gay-hustler-_n_4242447.html

https://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-obama-sex-perv-scandal/

 
I guess you're no better than the dems you criticize for peddling lies about Trump.

A return to the original thread would seem to be in order.
 
I guess you're no better than the dems you criticize for peddling lies about Trump.

A return to the original thread would seem to be in order.
You approve of almost every message your fellow TDS-afflicted counterpart indy35 makes. He called me out and said I was lying because there was no evidence of Obama attacking FOX News. I showed he was wrong.

He called me out for a post made months ago regarding Obama frequenting gay bathhouses in Chicago. He again said there was no evidence. I again showed he was wrong.
 
You approve of almost every message your fellow TDS-afflicted counterpart indy35 makes. He called me out and said I was lying because there was no evidence of Obama attacking FOX News. I showed he was wrong.

He called me out for a post made months ago regarding Obama frequenting gay bathhouses in Chicago. He again said there was no evidence. I again showed he was wrong.

You have a serious issue with comprehension. You didn’t provide anything of Obama “attacking.” That bathhouse thing is absolutely absurd. That’s not evidence. Do you understand what evidence is? How do you manage to function in the real world?

Did you know Trump thought about killing himself? I found this article. It’s right there in black and white, evidence.
https://politics.theonion.com/trump-teeters-on-white-house-ledge-weighing-pros-and-co-1828751264

Alex Jones reports that Sandy Hook was faked. That’s on the internet, has just as much credibility as what you call evidence, which is none.
 
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You approve of almost every message your fellow TDS-afflicted counterpart indy35 makes. He called me out and said I was lying because there was no evidence of Obama attacking FOX News. I showed he was wrong.

He called me out for a post made months ago regarding Obama frequenting gay bathhouses in Chicago. He again said there was no evidence. I again showed he was wrong.
Dude, you quoted the freaking National Enquirer. This from the man who constantly rips people for posting links from any news organization that isn't Trump friendly. And the Huffington Post?!!!!! I'm surprised your computer didn't trigger an air raid siren and blow up in your face. If Indy used them as a source you would have a hissy. You want credibility, stop being a hypocrite.
 
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Dude, you quoted the freaking National Enquirer. This from the man who constantly rips people for posting links from any news organization that isn't Trump friendly. And the Huffington Post?!!!!! I'm surprised your computer didn't trigger an air raid siren and blow up in your face. If Indy used them as a source you would have a hissy. You want credibility, stop being a hypocrite.
I’m a hypocrite for using a lefty source? WTF? Moronic take, even for you.
 
You approve of almost every message your fellow TDS-afflicted counterpart indy35 makes. He called me out and said I was lying because there was no evidence of Obama attacking FOX News. I showed he was wrong.

He called me out for a post made months ago regarding Obama frequenting gay bathhouses in Chicago. He again said there was no evidence. I again showed he was wrong.
Dude, you quoted the freaking National Enquirer. This from the man who constantly rips people for posting links from any news organization that isn't Trump friendly. And the Huffington Post?!!!!! I'm surprised your computer didn't trigger an air raid siren and blow up in your face. If Indy used them as a source you would have a hissy. You want credibility, stop being a hypocrite.

Wait, wait, wait.....he posted a story from the National Enquirer as proof that Obama went to gay bathhouses??? Bahahahahahahahahahahaha! Omg are you serious, SD? I just choked on my coffee when I saw this. I mean what. The. Hell.
 
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Wait, wait, wait.....he posted a story from the National Enquirer as proof that Obama went to gay bathhouses??? Bahahahahahahahahahahaha! Omg are you serious, SD? I just choked on my coffee when I saw this. I mean what. The. Hell.

Proof that the Clinton’s hate America and are weakening it for galactic overlords.
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ue4DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA24&dq=weekly+world+news+clinton+alien&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Zn4dVby0MoSrogTzuIDoBg&ved=0CDYQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=weekly world news clinton alien&f=false

SDboiler, your hatred for the Clinton’s makes sense now, look at that photo! That’s no red blooded American baby, no sir. There’s no way that alien baby has papers either, that makes it illegal. Doesn’t that make you spitting angry?!
 
Wait, wait, wait.....he posted a story from the National Enquirer as proof that Obama went to gay bathhouses??? Bahahahahahahahahahahaha! Omg are you serious, SD? I just choked on my coffee when I saw this. I mean what. The. Hell.
You ignored everything else? What about the other articles? The videos? You probably didn't even read the articles or look at the videos.

indy35 called me out saying there was no evidence about Obama and gay bathhouses. That's obviously not true. You whacked me over one source yet the rest remains.
 
Proof that the Clinton’s hate America and are weakening it for galactic overlords.
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ue4DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA24&dq=weekly+world+news+clinton+alien&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Zn4dVby0MoSrogTzuIDoBg&ved=0CDYQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=weekly world news clinton alien&f=false

SDboiler, your hatred for the Clinton’s makes sense now, look at that photo! That’s no red blooded American baby, no sir. There’s no way that alien baby has papers either, that makes it illegal. Doesn’t that make you spitting angry?!
Non sequitur. Totally false equivocation - nice try though, considering what you have to work with.
 
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