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Without looking (oh heck, I know you're gonna anyway) what team has the most FB NC's?

Nope to both. Understand I'm talking about college football from the START, so that goes back a ways. You'll recognize the University, just not as a football powerhouse.
 
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Interesting discussion.

There has been a massive change in the CFB landscape over the years, and it will continue.

Look how the landscape has changed in the past 25-30 years. Teams like Wisconsin and Northwestern were barely relevant, now they're absolutely to be taken seriously.

The SEC sits atop the CFB world... for now. No one knows what changes are coming for college athletics. NIL (and other such nonsense) could accelerate that change.
 
It depends how you are counting them. Ivy League teams have the most (like 30) going back the the 1800’s.
Then it gets weird because certain teams (like Alabama & Michigan) count titles nobody else does. Then ND actually counts less than they are awarded. Alabama for example, counts any title, from any poll, regardless the prestige. If ND did that they would actually have 22. So if ND & Bama counted the same way ND would have more. ND is credited with 13, but only recognizes 11 because two weren’t consensus. They are the only team to only accept consensus. Michigan, like Alabama, counts many titles that weren’t from legitimate polls. There have been articles written about the stories behind some of the titles Bama & Michigan claim that are hilarious.
 
It depends how you are counting them. Ivy League teams have the most (like 30) going back the the 1800’s.
Then it gets weird because certain teams (like Alabama & Michigan) count titles nobody else does. Then ND actually counts less than they are awarded. Alabama for example, counts any title, from any poll, regardless the prestige. If ND did that they would actually have 22. So if ND & Bama counted the same way ND would have more. ND is credited with 13, but only recognizes 11 because two weren’t consensus. They are the only team to only accept consensus. Michigan, like Alabama, counts many titles that weren’t from legitimate polls. There have been articles written about the stories behind some of the titles Bama & Michigan claim that are hilarious.
Correct, to an extent.

But, to your point, even UCF claims a mythical national title from 2017.

All we had until 8 years ago was a "mythical national championship".

The point is the discussion. Part of the discussion is how the landscape of CFB has changed throughout history (and continues to this day).
 
Correct, to an extent.

But, to your point, even UCF claims a mythical national title from 2017.

All we had until 8 years ago was a "mythical national championship".

The point is the discussion. Part of the discussion is how the landscape of CFB has changed throughout history (and continues to this day).
What happened 8 years ago?
 
It depends how you are counting them. Ivy League teams have the most (like 30) going back the the 1800’s.
Then it gets weird because certain teams (like Alabama & Michigan) count titles nobody else does. Then ND actually counts less than they are awarded. Alabama for example, counts any title, from any poll, regardless the prestige. If ND did that they would actually have 22. So if ND & Bama counted the same way ND would have more. ND is credited with 13, but only recognizes 11 because two weren’t consensus. They are the only team to only accept consensus. Michigan, like Alabama, counts many titles that weren’t from legitimate polls. There have been articles written about the stories behind some of the titles Bama & Michigan claim that are hilarious.
I was looking at it from the start, and you are correct on the Ivy league.
 
I'm guessing Princeton....but only from the "ivy league" hint, and that I know Purdue tried to model its Program after the Princeton Tigers when Purdue FB started.
 
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Funny to think that all of the titles won by Notre Dame, Michigan, Nebraska are essentially the equivalent of a Helms. I hope those schools have been notified by the 'authorities' that those don't count.
 
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