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No clue why people do this. There are hundreds of other OCs out there. Why do you immediately want to retread and hire a guy who clearly didn’t work here?
It doesn’t matter why it didn’t work…it’s time to move on.
it was said there were a lot of miscommunications between Walters and his assistant coaches, and also a lot of miscommunication between the assistant coaches. the OC and his offensive line and QB coaches were not on the same page either.
this is why you need to hire a coach who also brings his entire staff rather than one who looks around and hires coaches from a bunch of different schools. the coaches walters hired were not bad coaches. they just were never able to work together. there was no synergy.
from a player's perspective, he has one coach telling him one thing and a coordinator telling him to do something else. who does he follow ?
this is why you need to hire a coach who also brings his entire staff rather than one who looks around and hires coaches from a bunch of different schools. the coaches walters hired were not bad coaches. they just were never able to work together. there was no synergy.
from a player's perspective, he has one coach telling him one thing and a coordinator telling him to do something else. who does he follow ?
I don't think that was the suggestion by the OP. Just a question of which one was the bigger problem.
Disagree.
In the end the issue was a culture that lacked discipline and an OC who was average at best and couldn’t overcome the program’s deficiencies
Because I was trying to understand if the lack of offense productivity was a result of a poor OC or was it the HC micromanaging of the OC in such a way that didn't allow the OC to run the offense the way he wanted. It feels like the HC brought in an OC that he didn't really know and never develop the needed chemistry (trust).
The OC may be quality offensive-minded person who did not work out for Purdue. I was not suggesting that HC Odom bring GH back as his OC, only trying to understand why it didn't work.
Obviously, HC Odom will bring in coordinators he is comfortable with and feel that he can win with, which I believe is the key in all this--strong trust between HC and DC/OC.
If a coach wasn’t gonna let OC run offense like he wanted, why would he be hired in the first place and why stay, especially when offense was bad
It has been said there was a huge disconnect between Walters and all of his coordinators and coaches. Most all of his assistants had a lot more experience than Walters. One would think he would trust their opinions and allow them to do their jobs.
It’s almost as if, they said, ok boss, that idea is stupid, but if you want to do it that way fine, you don’t need my advice. And then they just took 2 steps back and watched as the entire team suffered.
I have to believe the success of the Brohm’s was that they talked to each other and were on the same page as to what they wanted to accomplish
It’s almost as if, they said, ok boss, that idea is stupid, but if you want to do it that way fine, you don’t need my advice. And then they just took 2 steps back and watched as the entire team suffered.
I have to believe the success of the Brohm’s was that they talked to each other and were on the same page as to what they wanted to accomplish
It's not like Harrell was blowing up the college world at other locations with his offense. He's gone through four teams in 8 years.
I'm sure he will get another opportunity somewhere else, but no, his offensive concepts were beyond frustrating to watch.
Where did you hear that? I think you are making this up.
Offense - the QB coach was the OC, lol. The OL coach was actually a Walters guy from Mizzou but wasn’t the original OL coach, there was some drama at the initial hiring. Conard is an exception.
The entire defensive coach group plus Walters and AHC/WR Patterson all coached with Walters previously.
once graham Harrell was canned everyone left was pretty much Walters’ guys who had all coached together for some of our all of the last 3-4 years… with just a couple exceptions.
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How could Walters hire an OC and DC that showed piss poor results on the field and expect to keep his job?? I thought that the DC was just as bad if not worse than the offense......
I agree with BIPPUS33 in that the HC has to take responsibility for the good and the bad. I would have thought both the OC and DC would have been let go mid-season to make statement. While I can't confirm what Wolegib is true, I do feel there is some truth to it. It just felt the players, assistants/coordinators, and Walters were never on the same page.
It became clear to most of us that RW's inexperience left him exposed. Blend in the various allocations / distractions, recruits decommitting, and existing players entering the portal there was no way the job could be maintained. Had to be replaced to send new message to the world. Glad Purdue moved quickly so that Odom can get started right away.
It became clear to most of us that RW's inexperience left him exposed. Blend in the various allocations / distractions, recruits decommitting, and existing players entering the portal there was no way the job could be maintained. Had to be replaced to send new message to the world. Glad Purdue moved quickly so that Odom can get started right away.
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With the DC, it was basically just a patsy to run Walters system. There was 0 difference in results when Kane called it vs when Walters called it. It schematically didn’t work without NFL guys seemingly at every spot. And if you have that, ANY defense should work at this level.
The “bump” we got in 2023 results wise when we won a few was more to do about level of competition and had nothing to do with better or elevated play.
To come in here and run the same defense for 24 games that never worked and lacked the talent to make it successful was the biggest downfall. We never had chances in half these games because we were never set up to stop our opponents.
The OC was serviceable at times but lacked invention, lacked in game awareness and his scheme did t put anybody in a position to shine at the WR or CB spots. Double down with poor fundamentals and a lack of discipline throughout the program you get 4-8 and 1-11 coming off of basically our 2 year program high water mark. An epic and colossal failure.
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