Rashad Griffith, Branden Dawson, Garry Harris…Caleb Swanigan?
This post was edited on 3/27 9:26 AM by ghostoffatjack
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Will We Finally Break the Pattern or Be Disappointed Again
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May as well go ahead and add Caron Butler, Zach Randolph, and Tyler Zeller to that list.
This post was edited on 3/27 9:33 AM by pharoutengineer
This post was edited on 3/27 9:33 AM by pharoutengineer
We never really had a shot....why get upset about it?
I think the only way id be upset about it is if he picked MSU...and by all accounts he does prefer us to them as of now. That said, when fighting the blue bloods for players, how often do you think we will win that? My guess is never...
The fact of the matter is, anywhere else he plays on his list he will get more exposure (except Chicago State). Granted, I think that if he came to Purdue he'd be walking into a really good situation for his development and what he'd like to do in college/pros....but I somehow don't feel that this will factor into the final decision. Being a big recruit at Duke, UNC, Kentucky or Kansas just means more to a kid and nationally than it does at Purdue.
I don't think Painter and the fan base should be dissapointed when he chooses elsewhere. I think Painter has done a credible job recruiting this guy. He's come to games, he's interested....but it will take an act of congress to get him here and there's nothing Painter can do about that. What I want to do is win every battle we fight the MSUs, Michigans, Iowas, Wisconsins, IUs of the world in.
Why never? There is nothing preventing Purdue from landing an occasional 5 star recruit. Nothing except the abilities of the coaching staff. Since Purdue's last 5 star recruit, every other school in the Big Ten has landed at least one of them except for Penn St., Northwestern, Rutgers, and Nebraska. I'm not saying it will happen often, but once per decade shouldn't be that crazy of a thought. Staff just needs to execute.
Re: What a loser....
As you mention, his development would likely be best served at Purdue. Why wouldn't he want to come here?? Why wouldn't we take out all the stops to get him???? I really believe the coaching staff needs to hit a home run to justify their high salaries and mediocre performance.on the recruiting trail. We even seem to have NW out recruiting us.
As you mention, his development would likely be best served at Purdue. Why wouldn't he want to come here?? Why wouldn't we take out all the stops to get him???? I really believe the coaching staff needs to hit a home run to justify their high salaries and mediocre performance.on the recruiting trail. We even seem to have NW out recruiting us.
suprise surprise that tommy crean dropped interest from this morbidly obese chunky dough-boy.. by all means i hope purdue gets him...
that fat-stack and painter could put multiple buffets under in just a few short weeks
This post was edited on 3/27 10:57 AM by reasonableguy00
that fat-stack and painter could put multiple buffets under in just a few short weeks
This post was edited on 3/27 10:57 AM by reasonableguy00
Defeatist attitude. If you don't try, you never have a chance. This isn't about entitlement. This is about believing in yourself and believing you can do great things.
Duke wasn't much of a program until Coach K came along. He built Duke into a powerhouse. Painter believes Purdue can become a power, but defeatist attitudes from so-called "fans" certainly don't help accomplish this.
Duke wasn't much of a program until Coach K came along. He built Duke into a powerhouse. Painter believes Purdue can become a power, but defeatist attitudes from so-called "fans" certainly don't help accomplish this.
Prior to Coach K, Duke had more final fours than Purdue has in its entire history, just for the record.
It's not defeatest at all. We will get PLENTY of E'Twaun Moore, Robbie Hummel and JuJuan Johnson type kids over the years. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, those kids help build a program way better than getting a 1 and done, McDs AA every few years or so.
That said, questioning why we won't beat out the 3 top programs in basketball for this kid is an exercise in futility. We won't beat them because we aren't them. For all the success in the world Painter COULD have, it still wouldn't amount to what Calipari, K and Williams have done at their respective schools. Then, add to that the legacy of these programs....ha. He's not coming here.
That said, I think fans SHOULD be upset when we lose battles to MSU, Michigan and other schools of our own ilk. That said, youre a kid and you want to make the Final 4....are you going to come play for Izzo or Painter?
Duke was a national afterthought until Coach K built them into a power.
Just because Purdue only went to FFs in 1969 and 1980 doesn't mean that Duke was a powerhouse prior to Coach K. (They weren't.)
Just because Purdue only went to FFs in 1969 and 1980 doesn't mean that Duke was a powerhouse prior to Coach K. (They weren't.)
and don't forget on how he did it, in part the write a paper without attending a class and pass a class was exposed by Sports Illustrated years ago, the similar one that North Carolina is catching all the NCAA flack for now!
Yes, your attitude on this is the very definition of "defeatist."
"We won't beat them because we aren't them." Do you read what you write? Anyway you slice it, a thousand ways from Sunday, that's a defeatist attitude.
UNLV, which hasn't been nationally relevant in a quarter century, just lost former McDonald's All-American Rashad Vaughn to the NBA draft today. Don't you think he had "better" offers? Of course, he could've gone about anywhere but he chose UNLV. There's no reason to assume that just because Duke, Kentucky, and North Carolina appeal to MOST recruits more than the likes of a Purdue or UNLV, doesn't mean we can't land a superstar every once in a while.
You clearly don't pay enough attention to recruiting if you think that the top 25 recruits only go to the top handful of basketball programs in the country.
"We won't beat them because we aren't them." Do you read what you write? Anyway you slice it, a thousand ways from Sunday, that's a defeatist attitude.
UNLV, which hasn't been nationally relevant in a quarter century, just lost former McDonald's All-American Rashad Vaughn to the NBA draft today. Don't you think he had "better" offers? Of course, he could've gone about anywhere but he chose UNLV. There's no reason to assume that just because Duke, Kentucky, and North Carolina appeal to MOST recruits more than the likes of a Purdue or UNLV, doesn't mean we can't land a superstar every once in a while.
You clearly don't pay enough attention to recruiting if you think that the top 25 recruits only go to the top handful of basketball programs in the country.
Luckily Geno didn't tell Kendrick to quit wasting time on Glenn Robinson because it was "unrealistic" to think purdue could get him.
Same thing with Mike Robinson, Troy Lewis, Kyle Macy, terry dischinger, Rick mount, billy Keller, etc, etc, all who were recruited by "elite" programs.
Same thing with Mike Robinson, Troy Lewis, Kyle Macy, terry dischinger, Rick mount, billy Keller, etc, etc, all who were recruited by "elite" programs.
So until we get the best coach of all time, we'll be a national afterthought, based on your line of reasoning. Duke went to the Final Four 1 out of every 10 years before Coach K. Purdue has gone once every 38 years. I take it back, we don't need the next Coach K, we need the next Coach K with the next Bobby Knight, Dean Smith, and Adolph Rupp on his staff, since we're nowhere near being even a national afterthought based on your statement.
Perhaps you were just ignorant of Duke's history, but doubled down on your baseless assertion anyways?
This post was edited on 3/27 7:38 PM by Casey and his Brother
I hope we can get Swanigan, but if we don't, I won't lose any sleep. Purdue is a four year, improve each year as a player, program. We may get the occasional elite player, but can't put our eggs in that basket. Wisconsin and Butler are similar programs in my mind. Consistently good teams doing it their way. Painter is not a butt kisser by nature, and I doubt Bo Ryan is either. Recruit your kind of player, improve them each year and let your seniors lead. If we get a stud every so often, great. But that's not who we are.
This +1
And we spend more on recruiting than either Wisconsin or Butler too. I just think the last 50 years or so has firmly established who we are and what we are capable of doing. Sure, some schools catch lightning in a bottle with a coach out of nowhere and go from good to great. But 95% of the schools that try that approach fail. I am absolutely confident CMP can take us to a Final Four someday with 4 star players. I would love to see a 5 star walk through the door but that is only going to be a Halley's comet type occurrence. Swanigan may commit here and I will be as happy as anybody but I'm not holding my breath. And I still think we have a darn good team next year without him.
And we spend more on recruiting than either Wisconsin or Butler too. I just think the last 50 years or so has firmly established who we are and what we are capable of doing. Sure, some schools catch lightning in a bottle with a coach out of nowhere and go from good to great. But 95% of the schools that try that approach fail. I am absolutely confident CMP can take us to a Final Four someday with 4 star players. I would love to see a 5 star walk through the door but that is only going to be a Halley's comet type occurrence. Swanigan may commit here and I will be as happy as anybody but I'm not holding my breath. And I still think we have a darn good team next year without him.
I've just heard from multiple folks in the know that CMP is using him to assist with this process. Just hope it works.
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I find this amusing. Lots of speculation in this thread. I do know this. Brian says we're a player in his recruitment. This doesn't mean we'll get him, but Brian generally is right on the money. As far as Frank goes, I hope he's involved. He has connections with Barnes and Parker.
This is just FYI, but a true story. Eight years ago, Kendrick was the AD at Tech HS in Indianapolis. My daughter was in a cross country meet against Tech and Frank was there. I went up and introduced myself as a Purdue alum and JPC member. He was extremely polite and engaging. Very talkative....talked to him for about half an hour. At that time, and I stress, at that time 8 years ago, he had nothing good to say about Purdue basketball, Gene or Pat Keady or Morgan Burke. He felt he was lied to and thrown under the bus in order to preserve Keady's legacy. He painted Burke as a guy who would only talk to people interested in giving money to Purdue. He was not a fan of Linn Dunn either. I know since then he has returned to Mackey for the alumni game and hopefully things are better. I felt at one time he was a tremendous ambassador for Purdue and could recruit guys Keady couldn't. Again, this is all just FYI.
Thanks for sharing 82. I think most of that has been on here sometime before. But it's good to get a first hand account and impression anyway. The best part is that he is back and hopefully an ambassador for the program from now on.
Frank Kendrick. Former purdue and NBA player, then assistant coach under keady in the 90s. Recruited G-Rob.
I heard a rumor that I am totally making up that CS is now a vegetarian.
/ I'm sooo in the know.
// Just stop it already
/// Hopefully Painter can get CS to commit, but I won't be terribly disappointed if he doesn't.
/ I'm sooo in the know.
// Just stop it already
/// Hopefully Painter can get CS to commit, but I won't be terribly disappointed if he doesn't.
