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Why Dakich Was Right and Wrong about Our Kryptonite

Feb 20, 2011
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In the second half of the IU game, Indiana, in an attempt to climb back into the fray, began full-court pressing us. We looked a little shaky at first, which prompted Dakich to wonder aloud why most teams don't attack us with the press. He alluded to last year's Iowa game and how we came undone under their pressure, and even went as far as to say that a low-seeded-but-athletic NCAA Tourney opponent could slay us with the tactic.

Dakich was right about some of these observations. He was also wrong.

The difference between last year's squad and this year's team was illustrated on one seemingly simple play by Carsen Edwards. With IU's defense attenuated and Purdue's numbers superior on the break, Carsen merely glided all the way to the basket for an easy score.

The thing is, what Carsen did would be impossible for 99.9% of the population.

Which is why I think we need Carsen on the scoring end of our press attack. He's a fearless, athletic finisher unlike any we've had since Moore. I realize that presses aren't always designed to produce turnovers, but are just as often intended to speed the game up and rattle a team out of its offense.

But the best way to defeat this gambit is by punishing the press.

When the goal goes from a) avoiding a turnover so we can set up our offense to b) scoring points in bunches, the pressed team begins to feel empowered by the press rather than intimidated by it. This psychological shift means you're no longer looking to protect a lead but instead attempting to blow the game wide open.

This iteration of Purdue, thanks to Carsen's presence and the improvements made by the rest of the team, need no longer fall prey to this full-court Kryptonite. That's why Dakich (as much as I enjoy him) was also wrong about Purdue's vulnerability. With the right mindset and the right pieces in place, Purdue can destroy a 13-seed's press and advance.

I, for one, am confident in our ability to turn a past weakness into a strength.
 
In the second half of the IU game, Indiana, in an attempt to climb back into the fray, began full-court pressing us. We looked a little shaky at first, which prompted Dakich to wonder aloud why most teams don't attack us with the press. He alluded to last year's Iowa game and how we came undone under their pressure, and even went as far as to say that a low-seeded-but-athletic NCAA Tourney opponent could slay us with the tactic.

Dakich was right about some of these observations. He was also wrong.

The difference between last year's squad and this year's team was illustrated on one seemingly simple play by Carsen Edwards. With IU's defense attenuated and Purdue's numbers superior on the break, Carsen merely glided all the way to the basket for an easy score.

The thing is, what Carsen did would be impossible for 99.9% of the population.

Which is why I think we need Carsen on the scoring end of our press attack. He's a fearless, athletic finisher unlike any we've had since Moore. I realize that presses aren't always designed to produce turnovers, but are just as often intended to speed the game up and rattle a team out of its offense.

But the best way to defeat this gambit is by punishing the press.

When the goal goes from a) avoiding a turnover so we can set up our offense to b) scoring points in bunches, the pressed team begins to feel empowered by the press rather than intimidated by it. This psychological shift means you're no longer looking to protect a lead but instead attempting to blow the game wide open.

This iteration of Purdue, thanks to Carsen's presence and the improvements made by the rest of the team, need no longer fall prey to this full-court Kryptonite. That's why Dakich (as much as I enjoy him) was also wrong about Purdue's vulnerability. With the right mindset and the right pieces in place, Purdue can destroy a 13-seed's press and advance.

I, for one, am confident in our ability to turn a past weakness into a strength.

Nice observation but you can easily go from your points of 'not turning the ball over' to instantly attacking a press for an quick and easy bucket. The issue is that Purdue wasn't skilled enough if that ability to go from simply not turning it over to attacking it until this season. It is obviously made easier with the player like Carsen and adding Spike...but this year's team could easily concentrate simply on not turning the ball over against a press, keeping it in the middle of the floor, and finding guys streaking along the sides of the floor for an easy jump shot/three. The issue is that Purdue would much rather be prodding early on in the game to get the opposing team in foul trouble inside-out. When that has happened, Purdue has generally just overpowered their opponents from the inside and then that opens up things for guys like Cline, Mathias, Vince, and Carsen. Purdue doesn't want to get out and run simply because it sees a press...it wants to make the defense pay through forcing them in to fouling and then forcing shorter and weaker players to defend two of the best front line players in the country.
 
I wish we would try to score more on the press than we do. Typically we can get an open look for 3 or 1 on 1 drive to the basket with potential for a foul, bucket or both. I don't mind our offense speeding up at all and actually think it can sometimes prevent us from long periods without scoring and the standing around that occurs when we become too focused on feeding the paint. As described CE is a perfect example of a press breaker who can punish a team not unlike what Yogi did for 4 years at IU.
 
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Nice observation but you can easily go from your points of 'not turning the ball over' to instantly attacking a press for an quick and easy bucket. The issue is that Purdue wasn't skilled enough if that ability to go from simply not turning it over to attacking it until this season. It is obviously made easier with the player like Carsen and adding Spike...but this year's team could easily concentrate simply on not turning the ball over against a press, keeping it in the middle of the floor, and finding guys streaking along the sides of the floor for an easy jump shot/three. The issue is that Purdue would much rather be prodding early on in the game to get the opposing team in foul trouble inside-out. When that has happened, Purdue has generally just overpowered their opponents from the inside and then that opens up things for guys like Cline, Mathias, Vince, and Carsen. Purdue doesn't want to get out and run simply because it sees a press...it wants to make the defense pay through forcing them in to fouling and then forcing shorter and weaker players to defend two of the best front line players in the country.

That's certainly a fair point, and I agree the difference is team-wide skill improvement.

For me, the two modes--the punishing-the-press mindset and the pound it into the middle mindset--go together nicely. What I've also seen more this year is Isaac racing downcourt (Biggie too, at times), posting his man in a one-on-one iso (which is death on pretty much every post defender in the nation vs. our bigs), and gaining wonderful interior position. By pounding it inside before the help can get set, we can both score and achieve the foul trouble we're desiring.
 
b) scoring points in bunches, the pressed team begins to feel empowered by the press rather than intimidated by it. This psychological shift means you're no longer looking to protect a lead but instead attempting to blow the game wide open..

I agree on this. Sometimes in the past we let the opposing team close the lead because of a turnover or two from the press. When we did break it we just slowed it down.

I like the break and attack. 2-3 easy buckets can break a team especially if they aren't converting on the other end
 
The press really hasn't bothered us at all this year. I like how CE broke it himself a few times in the IU game and took it straight to the basket. I think he needs to be in the game whenever we are pressed.
 
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In the second half of the IU game, Indiana, in an attempt to climb back into the fray, began full-court pressing us. We looked a little shaky at first, which prompted Dakich to wonder aloud why most teams don't attack us with the press. He alluded to last year's Iowa game and how we came undone under their pressure, and even went as far as to say that a low-seeded-but-athletic NCAA Tourney opponent could slay us with the tactic.

Dakich was right about some of these observations. He was also wrong.

The difference between last year's squad and this year's team was illustrated on one seemingly simple play by Carsen Edwards. With IU's defense attenuated and Purdue's numbers superior on the break, Carsen merely glided all the way to the basket for an easy score.

The thing is, what Carsen did would be impossible for 99.9% of the population.

Which is why I think we need Carsen on the scoring end of our press attack. He's a fearless, athletic finisher unlike any we've had since Moore. I realize that presses aren't always designed to produce turnovers, but are just as often intended to speed the game up and rattle a team out of its offense.

But the best way to defeat this gambit is by punishing the press.

When the goal goes from a) avoiding a turnover so we can set up our offense to b) scoring points in bunches, the pressed team begins to feel empowered by the press rather than intimidated by it. This psychological shift means you're no longer looking to protect a lead but instead attempting to blow the game wide open.

This iteration of Purdue, thanks to Carsen's presence and the improvements made by the rest of the team, need no longer fall prey to this full-court Kryptonite. That's why Dakich (as much as I enjoy him) was also wrong about Purdue's vulnerability. With the right mindset and the right pieces in place, Purdue can destroy a 13-seed's press and advance.

I, for one, am confident in our ability to turn a past weakness into a strength.

Here's the thing - a REALLY good pressing team would be difficult, I think for anyone facing it for really the first time in a season. However, those are very rare instances (last year, I think while everyone was caught up in losing to the team we did - they were a good pressing team, something we knew was a major weakness).

However, the more likely scenario of facing a "problem" situation are athletic big men - like a Wagner - and/or teams that have guys that can play with Swanigan defensively - like Penn State did. Many teams don't have that, but it's a lot more common to be able to throw that at Purdue than an effective full-court press for an entire game.
 
Nice observation but you can easily go from your points of 'not turning the ball over' to instantly attacking a press for an quick and easy bucket. The issue is that Purdue wasn't skilled enough if that ability to go from simply not turning it over to attacking it until this season. It is obviously made easier with the player like Carsen and adding Spike...but this year's team could easily concentrate simply on not turning the ball over against a press, keeping it in the middle of the floor, and finding guys streaking along the sides of the floor for an easy jump shot/three. The issue is that Purdue would much rather be prodding early on in the game to get the opposing team in foul trouble inside-out. When that has happened, Purdue has generally just overpowered their opponents from the inside and then that opens up things for guys like Cline, Mathias, Vince, and Carsen. Purdue doesn't want to get out and run simply because it sees a press...it wants to make the defense pay through forcing them in to fouling and then forcing shorter and weaker players to defend two of the best front line players in the country.
I think you both make some good points. Where do you play Haas if the game is always running up and down? Who subs for Vince and Biggie if Haas doesn't rest them? IS Purdue a team that wants a track meet? Are the Purdue guards finishers in a press or distributers...generally? All these and both of your thoughts along with a few things I'm not sure needed added...do we think all presses are intended to cause turnovers? Do we think all presses are the same adn would be attacked the same?

I think any team that presses for a few possessions as a surprise could have a couple of turnovers...and in a close game that may be enough. A team that presses all the time with Purdue's short bench could be a problem...especially if they try to trap quickly adn heavily prioritize protecting the basket more than a turnover.

Bottom line...any gamble defense with the right refs can be very effective, but this years team is better suited than the last two years to deal with it...
 
I think you both make some good points. Where do you play Haas if the game is always running up and down? Who subs for Vince and Biggie if Haas doesn't rest them? IS Purdue a team that wants a track meet? Are the Purdue guards finishers in a press or distributers...generally? All these and both of your thoughts along with a few things I'm not sure needed added...do we think all presses are intended to cause turnovers? Do we think all presses are the same adn would be attacked the same?

I think any team that presses for a few possessions as a surprise could have a couple of turnovers...and in a close game that may be enough. A team that presses all the time with Purdue's short bench could be a problem...especially if they try to trap quickly adn heavily prioritize protecting the basket more than a turnover.

Bottom line...any gamble defense with the right refs can be very effective, but this years team is better suited than the last two years to deal with it...
I agree that CE makes us a better equipped team to handle pressure. However, I would prefer if we not get our theory tested! :)
 
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I agree that CE makes us a better equipped team to handle pressure. However, I would prefer if we not get our theory tested! :)
I have a few more theories I would just as soon keep theories...
 
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