CMP and staff have put together some nice pieces to this class. Is there a chance we land a wing and lock it up for next year? Who are we actively recruiting, thanks in advance
Who's next?
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We need a lanky small forward with some height who can defend some of the bigger/quicker forwards. Somebody ........like Wheeler.
and we need a PG ball distributer...... Somebody like ........Eastern.
but seriously, we have filled our real needs. But, to add depth, we need another wing, and a pg.
And I'd prefer both were defenders and ball distributers. I don't believe we need any more shooters.
And last week, Painter contacted all the big men he was recruiting and essentially told them to look elsewhere.
I could see Painter flipping a player like Anderson, or Phinisee, Embury or Campbell. who knows, maybe Langford will decide to join the party.
Kisunus is a 6'8 euro guy. I've read a couple of comments he's kind of like tony kukoc. I realize painter informed several players after DOW committed, he was no longer interested. Could Kisunas fill a wing/SF slot?
if I had any money, I'd bet it all on Campbell. I love Eastern . but I feel every class should have a PG.
I wouldn't be shocked if we have 3 early signees, and painter holds two slot s open for a couple of late bloomers. or he waits until a coach is fired and flips one of their players. I wouldn't be surprised if his last name was Anderson.
and we need a PG ball distributer...... Somebody like ........Eastern.
but seriously, we have filled our real needs. But, to add depth, we need another wing, and a pg.
And I'd prefer both were defenders and ball distributers. I don't believe we need any more shooters.
And last week, Painter contacted all the big men he was recruiting and essentially told them to look elsewhere.
I could see Painter flipping a player like Anderson, or Phinisee, Embury or Campbell. who knows, maybe Langford will decide to join the party.
Kisunus is a 6'8 euro guy. I've read a couple of comments he's kind of like tony kukoc. I realize painter informed several players after DOW committed, he was no longer interested. Could Kisunas fill a wing/SF slot?
if I had any money, I'd bet it all on Campbell. I love Eastern . but I feel every class should have a PG.
I wouldn't be shocked if we have 3 early signees, and painter holds two slot s open for a couple of late bloomers. or he waits until a coach is fired and flips one of their players. I wouldn't be surprised if his last name was Anderson.
Maybe THT. he's a wing, a little short at 6'5, but has size at 210. I know nothing about him other than paper stats and he's from a good school from Chicago.
I do know both Wheeler and Ewing came out of nowhere last year. I also know painter doesn't give up on a player he's recruited and targeted just because they committed elsewhere. Haas and biggie come to mind.
I do know both Wheeler and Ewing came out of nowhere last year. I also know painter doesn't give up on a player he's recruited and targeted just because they committed elsewhere. Haas and biggie come to mind.
Pretty sure THT cut Purdue from his list. Stranger things have happened, but I think the ship has sailed away there.
Biggie and Haas were unique situations and my understanding was Painter didn't poach them after they committed elsewhere. They both decomitted and made contact with him first when they had 2nd thoughts.
THT cut Purdue from his top 13 and plans to cut the list down further. We are not on that boat.
As for Tyger, I would rather have Isaiah in the '19 class as a pg. My guess is that Painter goes for a shooter in the height range of 6'4-6'7 and doesn't really care about ranking on that player. Kind of like Sasha last year.
Painter hit every need in this class. The ideal remaining spot would go to a 6'7 shooting wing. Anything else would be backups to backups. Ironically enough, Anderson would fit that need. He, however, gets to sit behind the plethora of forwards IU signed all at once. Painter will find somebody that fits the system and buys in. If not, we maybe go a transfer and push the scholly back.
Why would you prefer Isaiah over Tyger? Are you concerned that Tyger is too ball dominant?
I admittedly don't know enough about them, besides their rankings, to compare them.
(I also would gladly take a 6'7" shooter if Painter can find a good enough one. Purdue has 5 scholarships to give.)
I have only seen video, but you might want to go to the other thread and see that the scoring Hunter can also distribute the ball.
https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/welcome-aboard-mr-hunter.127335/#post-1491781
I don't recall any reports of Painter actively flipping either Biggie or Isaac. I remember reports of both parties contacting Painter.
I looked at a couple of videos last night on youtube. I found it interesting that in the older highlight reel video, hunter was listed as a PG.
A snippet... "They said there's a chance to play right, but of course I'd have to earn that and continue to work," Hunter said. "They see me as a combo guard, but I'd be playing a lot of point, though ... but they'd be wanting me to score."
https://purdue.rivals.com/news/purdue-lands-another-of-its-top-2018-targets-eric-hunter
I like them both, but if I had to pick, I would take Thompson because of his family ties to Purdue. Thompson is a very good player, not much further behind Tyger. I also don't think it will take much to land Isaiah, just an offer and he is ours. Save the resources and time recruiting Tyger when we can get what we need early. It is always beneficial to sign players early so they can help you recruit. Currently we are loaded with scorers as well, Isaiah just fits and he is a Boiler at heart. Grew up with this team and Purdue should be his home. Spend those freed up resources/time on KBJ and Jackson-Davis.
I could understand why Painter may prefer Isaiah over Tyger. but selfishly, I'd want both. but realistically, if that were to happen, we would not take advantage of either's talent.
As we look to 2018-19, I see a three headed backcourt of C Edwards, Eastern and Hunter, as interchangeable parts with Cline and Sasha coming in as sharp shooters and instant offense. All three of Edwards, Eastern and Hunter are good ball handlers and distributers. All three could play PG alongside of Cline. if you add Tyger, you face a situation of either offering him very limited minutes, or you create a situation where each guard sees their minutes and effectiveness reduced. You create a situation similar to Hummel and Martin with both Hunter and Tyger fighting for the same position and minutes. and the probability that one will transfer.
fro a sustained continuity viewpoint adding Isaiah in 2019, Cline will have left, Edwards, may have left, and you could ease him is as Eastern's back-up at PG as a freshmen to learn the system, and then the following year have a backcourt of Eastern, Hunter and Isaiah with Ed and Tre and Wheeler.
I just believe it would be better having eastern spending an entire year developing a chemistry with hunter, and vice versa, then having Eastern developing a chemistry with both Hunter and Tyger in the same year.
and from a continuity point, you don't want all your star players to arrive or leave at the same time. The soul train was great for Purdue, but ultimately, Macy felt squeezed out and left. the same was true with Martin and Stephens to a degree..
I don't know. I could be wrong about having too much talent. I wanted Phinisee as a back-up role-player PG. I never saw him as ever being a starter at Purdue. he probably felt the same way. Adding Tyger would be awesome, but having too much talent at the same position can be detrimental especially if it's in the same class. .
I could also see Isaiah over Tyger for the simple reason that painter has spent a lot more time recruiting him.
Although I believe Lutz spent a lot of time at La Lum recruiting Tyger. and I'd like to see La lum becoming a pipeline to Purdue. Adding Tyger could open that door if he succeeds.
Although I believe Lutz spent a lot of time at La Lum recruiting Tyger. and I'd like to see La lum becoming a pipeline to Purdue. Adding Tyger could open that door if he succeeds.
after sleeping on it, I believe the next two scholarships will go to either a transfer or grad transfer who will only be on our books for 1-2 years. and the other goes to a defensive specialist and hustler - somebody like Sasha who shines and rises during his senior year.
a 6'7 wing and a guard and I believe a lot of basketball will go down this year before those names are announced. 3 early period signees, and 2 late period ones.
unless the NCAA levers the hammer down on those schools involved and we see a mass exodus of players looking for a quality place to transfer. Would painter accept a transfer from Louisville? Somehow I doubt it. I can see many players not involved looking for new homes.
a 6'7 wing and a guard and I believe a lot of basketball will go down this year before those names are announced. 3 early period signees, and 2 late period ones.
unless the NCAA levers the hammer down on those schools involved and we see a mass exodus of players looking for a quality place to transfer. Would painter accept a transfer from Louisville? Somehow I doubt it. I can see many players not involved looking for new homes.
My thoughts are this:
I believe CMP will continue to find some players to follow as they develop in to their senior year. If there is a guy who CMP believes can bring something to the program, whether that is depth, attitude, or skill...he'll look to add them. I don't think CMP is a coach that is just going to add a guy simply because of his rankings (with the exception of top flight talent) at this point in time. You continue to recruit and you continue to check in on guys because you never when an injury or other issue comes up that might change the direction of a players life.
I believe CMP will continue to find some players to follow as they develop in to their senior year. If there is a guy who CMP believes can bring something to the program, whether that is depth, attitude, or skill...he'll look to add them. I don't think CMP is a coach that is just going to add a guy simply because of his rankings (with the exception of top flight talent) at this point in time. You continue to recruit and you continue to check in on guys because you never when an injury or other issue comes up that might change the direction of a players life.
This is why you stay in what many call passive contact with a recruit even after they commit. You never know what could happen up until the day they sign on the dotted line for that scholarship.
And, in a unique situation, as seems to often occur with foreign players, a guy with a high ceiling that isn't quite there yet, but definitely could be, can redshirt within the team we have at this point. Not recommending, just adding an option.
One advantage being that if an injury did occur that put us in a bind, he could come out of redshirt.
I don't mean anyone - especially not a current player - simply suggesting that a redshirt of someoone we don't have now, but has a high ceiling, could be another option for a schollie with the team that we have now.
I also recall going to a different sports forum with a lot of people in the know just like this one, with family connections and school insider info, and everything. it was a Vandy board. and has was signed, sealed and delivered to Vandy. and then signing da y came and for some odd reason Haas didn't sign.
those people are just like us. they have the same hopes, dreams and passions and posters who follow twitter.
I didn't inform them I was from Purdue. I just causally read their posts about has before signing day, and then their views after he signed with Purdue. they were absolutely crushed. in their minds, and you will never be able to convince them otherwise, Painter flipped and stole Haas, much the same way he stole biggie. he might not have contacted has, but has had painter's number, and painter picked up the phone
there were no illegal recruitment violations. but in their minds and hearts, painter stole haas.
those people are just like us. they have the same hopes, dreams and passions and posters who follow twitter.
I didn't inform them I was from Purdue. I just causally read their posts about has before signing day, and then their views after he signed with Purdue. they were absolutely crushed. in their minds, and you will never be able to convince them otherwise, Painter flipped and stole Haas, much the same way he stole biggie. he might not have contacted has, but has had painter's number, and painter picked up the phone
there were no illegal recruitment violations. but in their minds and hearts, painter stole haas.
All I remember was Haas was ideal for Purdue and out of the blue, visited Wake and announced Wake. Coming to his senses (maybe a coaching change?) he declared Purdue. Biggie had Rosie and Rosie was smart enough to make a business decision and he then came to Purdue. I'm sure Matt keeps the door open...
Guys on the team next year above 6'6":
Taylor
Haarms
Wheeler
Ewing
Eastern
Williams
Dowuona
Eifert
I don't get overly excited thinking about the outside shooting ability of any of those guys. Shooting has been our offensive strength lately. I'd love to add a 6'8" shooter that can play the 3/4.
Taylor
Haarms
Wheeler
Ewing
Eastern
Williams
Dowuona
Eifert
I don't get overly excited thinking about the outside shooting ability of any of those guys. Shooting has been our offensive strength lately. I'd love to add a 6'8" shooter that can play the 3/4.
yeah, not sure how everyone forgets about Matt. Around 3:08 he shows his potential should Purdue need a press in guarding the triggerman in a 1-2-2 or 1-2-1-1 press..
there is a special group on this board that specializes in ZONE equations .... wait for it .... they will chime in soon ...
OZONE is fake news.notice I left off the word to hide it from some....and obviously not others!
fully understand...I just mentioned Haarms because he is the forgotten player and Purdue can be huge if he cal play a 4 effectively
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