Who gets a look at the next level and continues the streak?

[Tommaker]

Draft wise, I'd say Bentley has a shot, maybe Danny E? Did Gelen do well enough his last year to merit interest? The NFL goes through O-lineman like popcorn, does Kirk Barron play on Sundays? Hunte, Neal, McCollum, do they sign with somebody after the draft? Do Phillips and Mahoungou get a look based on their size/speed and potential? I think this years performance pulled some guys up that wouldn't have gotten a look, I don't know that it knocked any potentials down the list.

 

[Wolegib]

I believe Bentley for sure - at least 3rd round. . Danny, Barron, McCollum and Gelen will generate interest. I doubt Phillips or Mahoungou receive a look. When you look at their tapes, most of the time, you will see the drops, including last night for Mahoungou. When you look at Phillips, it's hard not to look at his previous games where his name was the drop zone.

I'm not sure about Neal or Hunte. People kept saying hunte was our best Db, yet I saw nothing outstanding about him including last night. There were a lot of blown coverages last night that led to some big plays and wide open TDs. I'm not sure whose fault it was because Hunte was never anywhere near the ball. Our DBs didn't have much anticipation or aggressiveness going after the ball. and I saw very few passes tipped or blocked away.

 

[PaBoiler78]

I believe Bentley for sure - at least 3rd round. . Danny, Barron, McCollum and Gelen will generate interest. I doubt Phillips or Mahoungou receive a look. When you look at their tapes, most of the time, you will see the drops, including last night for Mahoungou. When you look at Phillips, it's hard not to look at his previous games where his name was the drop zone.

I'm not sure about Neal or Hunte. People kept saying hunte was our best Db, yet I saw nothing outstanding about him including last night. There were a lot of blown coverages last night that led to some big plays and wide open TDs. I'm not sure whose fault it was because Hunte was never anywhere near the ball. Our DBs didn't have much anticipation or aggressiveness going after the ball. and I saw very few passes tipped or blocked away.

if Ricardo Allen and Anthony Brown can make a NFL team so can Hunte. Neal is only a Soph ( got held alot last night), McCollum and Bentley for sure, Gelen could be similar to the guy the Steelers just let go, Barron no.

 

[boiler2288]

If Landon Feichtner got on Browns practice squad for a couple years, Theineman will likely merit interest after his sr year as well. He is bigger and a savage hitter. However coverage skills are somewhat suspect

 

[nips18]

if Ricardo Allen and Anthony Brown can make a NFL team so can Hunte. Neal is only a Soph ( got held alot last night), McCollum and Bentley for sure, Gelen could be similar to the guy the Steelers just let go, Barron no.

Barron is returning for one more year.

 

[PaBoiler78]

Barron is returning for one more year.

thanks, didn't know he had another one to go

 

[Dandelion1972]

I'm not sure about Neal or Hunte. People kept saying hunte was our best Db, yet I saw nothing outstanding about him including last night. There were a lot of blown coverages last night that led to some big plays and wide open TDs. I'm not sure whose fault it was because Hunte was never anywhere near the ball. Our DBs didn't have much anticipation or aggressiveness going after the ball. and I saw very few passes tipped or blocked away.

The key to your observation is that Hunte was NEVER close to the blown coverages. I think he gets a look.

Bentley, because of this physical stature and speed will be drafted, bank on it.

Generally, players at the next level don't drop the ball, therefore, it's hard to imagine that any of ours will get a serious chance.

 

[PaBoiler78]

The key to your observation is that Hunte was NEVER close to the blown coverages. I think he gets a look.

Bentley, because of this physical stature and speed will be drafted, bank on it.

Generally, players at the next level don't drop the ball, therefore, it's hard to imagine that any of ours will get a serious chance.

in regards to Hunte, his battle vs Cobbs there were at least 4 or 5 plays that scouts can refer to.

 

[ImRonBurgandy?]

I don't know how Bentley doesn't get drafted. Guy is a beast, although I'm totally biased. A good combine and/or pro day could really vault him IMO. If Gelen can get a combine invite, I could see him doing quite well in the drills, thus getting himself into draft position. Next year (2019 draft) is the year that could break the string as no one comes to mind that is a for-sure NFL lock. I do believe Neal makes it, but he's only a Soph and it would seem doubtful that he'd leave early. Bailey, I would argue, is very good and I believe will get drafted, but he's only a redshirt soph. Baron, would seem like the only one who would even be on the radar for the 2019 draft. Wilson probably blew it.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I don't know how Bentley doesn't get drafted. Guy is a beast, although I'm totally biased. A good combine and/or pro day could really vault him IMO. If Gelen can get a combine invite, I could see him doing quite well in the drills, thus getting himself into draft position. Next year (2019 draft) is the year that could break the string as no one comes to mind that is a for-sure NFL lock. I do believe Neal makes it, but he's only a Soph and it would seem doubtful that he'd leave early. Bailey, I would argue, is very good and I believe will get drafted, but he's only a redshirt soph. Baron, would seem like the only one who would even be on the radar for the 2019 draft. Wilson probably blew it.

I wouldn’t count out Bailey leaving after next season. Heck I think he’s better than some of the Colts LBs right now!

 

[Wolegib]

I've seen a lot of receivers get invitations. but it's usually because of their speed or ability to make plays. or cool names. the packers have a WR named Geronimo !!!! I think he's from Illinois. I didn't really follow his college career. I know he doesn't have much speed or height, but he's got a cool name.

Mahoungou may get an invite because of his story. I'm not sure how many times last night the announcer said did you know he's from France and he read about football in a comic book?

At the beginning of the year , I would have said the players with the best shot would be Robinson, Bentley, Hunte, and McCollum. I believe all 4 proved through the season they were worthy. I think McCollum, because of his mid-season injury missed out on some accolades he was due. he really made a difference this year. I was glad for McCollum. in the end when it mattered most, he reached in, grabbed some balls and stepped up to another level. he wasn't going to lose in his last game.

and look at last night. Arizona came into the game averaging 325 yards rushing per game, and Purdue's run defense stuffed them flat. And the biggest thing I saw last night, and Bentley said it in an interview. either before or after the game. the key to being successful last night, was no missed tackles. You saw it on special teams and on defense.


I don't believe there was any Boilermaker this year whose stock dropped.
the announcers really dissed our dbacks saying they didn't have the speed to keep up with the Arizona receivers.

 

[Wolegib]

I believe there are more who make the NFL, but my comments were based on seniors. I thought fro m the original comment, Neal and barron were seniors. Wilson isn't going pro. he failed two Fall semesters in a row and was only a back-up this year. .

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

2019 may be the year of the OL. Very possible we will have 4 senior OL with Barron, Smart, Evans, and Swingler, and maybe Yacoobi will finally break into the lineup. A big season from any of these guys and they could be a late round pick. You never know with Blough too. If he is truly ahead of schedule and Sindelar is out all spring, Blough could get the start and if could be lights out with some good WRs (probably not, but would not rule him out as a late draft pick given his intangibles and my hunch is Sindelar starts anyway). I wouldn't rule out Markell Jones either of he has a killer senior year. He has played great his last two games.

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

I believe there are more who make the NFL, but my comments were based on seniors. I thought fro m the original comment, Neal and barron were seniors. Wilson isn't going pro. he failed two Fall semesters in a row and was only a back-up this year. .

Wilson has put his 3 years in and when the season started there was even speculation he would leave early for the NFL after this year. I would expect Wilson to get a chance as an UDFA or at least in training camp. He may not have started this year but he did most of last year and he had some flashes of incredible athleticism and playmaking. I am not sure NFL scouts will care much for his grades as a DL. He has great potential and NFL size, if only he can show more discipline.

 

[Wolegib]

Wilson has put his 3 years in and when the season started there was even speculation he would leave early for the NFL after this year. I would expect Wilson to get a chance as an UDFA or at least in training camp. He may not have started this year but he did most of last year and he had some flashes of incredible athleticism and playmaking. I am not sure NFL scouts will care much for his grades as a DL. He has great potential and NFL size, if only he can show more discipline.

Wilson started on some really bad Hazell coached teams that lacked a lot of talent. He showed some flashes. When actual talented players arrived, he lost his starting position, and became a back-up. Do you actually believe an NFL team is going to take a flyer on him?

We had two decent senior defensive lineman last year. One said because of his injuries, he would no longer play football. Did the other one even get a tryout/invitation?

Wilson has shown some flashes. he also showed enough deficiencies. for Brohm to bench him. Name me a guy who gets benched for a 7-6 team and then still gets an NFL offer.

 

[nips18]

Of the current state of the roster:

LT - Hermanns has a great shot to develop into a really good prospect.
C - Barron will get some time on a roster
TE - Herdman will catch on
TE - Hopkins has enormous potential
QB - Sindelar has a shot
RB - not sure any are quick enough
WR - same, unless Edwards is.

DL - GRob has a shot if given a shot as a DT
NT - Neal has a really good shot, however he's short
DL - I really like Reviere's potential
LB - Bentley, McCollum, Bailey
CB - Hunte will get a shot on a practice squad if he runs well at pro day
The young CB's have the size, but unsure.

P - Schopper

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

Wilson started on some really bad Hazell coached teams that lacked a lot of talent. He showed some flashes. When actual talented players arrived, he lost his starting position, and became a back-up. Do you actually believe an NFL team is going to take a flyer on him?

We had two decent senior defensive lineman last year. One said because of his injuries, he would no longer play football. Did the other one even get a tryout/invitation?

Wilson has shown some flashes. he also showed enough deficiencies. for Brohm to bench him. Name me a guy who gets benched for a 7-6 team and then still gets an NFL offer.

Sorry you are just completely incorrect. How many more talented players pushed him out? Zero. Gelen Robinson was a senior and Hazel recruit and was pushed inside where he belonged. Lorenzo Neal also started last year with Wilson multiple games, and was an honorable mention all big ten player, but still a Hazel recruit. Neither one necessarily leapfrogged Wilson. Wilson was mostly first DT off the bench this year. Wilson had a bunch of stupid penalties too, if he can be more disciplined he may have had more playing time. But it was not due to lack of talent or potential. The story is not about more talent, but guys playing with more effort.

You cannot coach size or athleticism. Teams take flyers on far less disciplined and academically challenged players than Eddy due to their potential.

The guys last year you mention did not have the high ceiling potential or athleticism of Wilson.

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

Also, I am not sure you can really argue he was not a starter. Although he literally did not play the first snap of each game, he was listed first or "OR" for first on the depth chart each game. I know Keiwan Jones took a lot of his snaps too especially when Neal had to sit out for that terrible targeting call, but Brohm said it was an "internal" matter why he didnt get the actual starts.

 

[Wolegib]

Sorry you are just completely incorrect. How many more talented players pushed him out? Zero. Gelen Robinson was a senior and Hazel recruit and was pushed inside where he belonged. Lorenzo Neal also started last year with Wilson multiple games, and was an honorable mention all big ten player, but still a Hazel recruit. Neither one necessarily leapfrogged Wilson. Wilson was mostly first DT off the bench this year. Wilson had a bunch of stupid penalties too, if he can be more disciplined he may have had more playing time. But it was not due to lack of talent or potential. The story is not about more talent, but guys playing with more effort.

You cannot coach size or athleticism. Teams take flyers on far less disciplined and academically challenged players than Eddy due to their potential.

The guys last year you mention did not have the high ceiling potential or athleticism of Wilson.

Ok. I'm completely incorrect. he started 8 games last year. he didn't start one game this year. We had two senior starters on the line last year who graduated and left . yet, still Wilson couldn't keep the starting position he had last year. he wasn't leapfrogged by Neal ? let's see, Neal was the starter, and Wilson wasn't. I'd call that regression. Others might call that getting benched.

and you'd call that being ready to go to the NFL a year early! In the past, the NFL takes very few flyers on players who leave their school early unless they were All Americans. and Wilson wasn't an All American, or All BIG 10 or even a starter on Purdue. When he did play, he showed flashes of being good, but also played undisciplined behavior and made a lot of stupid mistakes. .

I've been wrong about NFL teams before. I was totally wrong about Green Bay. Who knew with all their deficiencies, they'd pass up that impact LB in the second round so they could draft a worse one in the 4th round? Who knew with a healthy Cobb, Nelson, Adams and Geronimo, they'd draft two more receivers from Purdue and LSU(neither made the team or practice squad). Who knew with a hole at RB, they'd draft 3 RBs and then try to figure out which one was the best fit? Who knew they'd draft a running QB as their back-up to Rogers, and then change their entire offense to accommodate him? All were disastrous moves. But they know a lot more than I do.

Will Wilson even get a pro day? Will Wilson get an invitation to the combine?

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

Ok. I'm completely incorrect. he started 8 games last year. he didn't start one game this year. We had two senior starters on the line last year who graduated and left . yet, still Wilson couldn't keep the starting position he had last year. he wasn't leapfrogged by Neal ? let's see, Neal was the starter, and Wilson wasn't. I'd call that regression. Others might call that getting benched.

and you'd call that being ready to go to the NFL a year early! In the past, the NFL takes very few flyers on players who leave their school early unless they were All Americans. and Wilson wasn't an All American, or All BIG 10 or even a starter on Purdue. When he did play, he showed flashes of being good, but also played undisciplined behavior and made a lot of stupid mistakes. .

I said you were wrong since you responded that he got passed up by new talent coming in. No, he was part of the 3 man rotation with Neal (who started last year too as a true freshman, they actually started games together) and with Gelen Robinson, a senior who started at DE the past 2 years and was shifted inside due to change in coaching philosophy. No new talent came in and displaced Eddy. Purdue's defense was remarkably improved due to mostly effort and better coaching. No regression. He didn't get benched, he was listed on every depth chart as "OR" for starter in order to make it clear he was considered first team.

I never said he has earned his way into the NFL early. I said he put his three years in, implying he is eligible to play in the NFL next year. Seeing as Purdue might not allow him back for academics and there is no development league, he may not have much of a choice and will declare for the NFL draft. I sincerely doubt he will get drafted but many Purdue graduating seniors (even non-starters) get invited to a training camp even if they do not participate in the combine and that is what I would expect with Eddy. Most don't make the team but he is talented enough I think someone will give him a chance. Perfect example - Jimmy Herman was an on-again off-again starter at Purdue and was invited to training camp last year. He even got to play in a preseason game for the Giants. Never made it but an NFL team gave him the chance.

I am not sure you even know what you are talking about with the DT position since you thought Lorenzo Neal was a senior.

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

Also to answer your question - yes the other senior (Panfill) got a tryout and was then signed by Tampa Bay. He did not eventually make the 53 man roster. Replogle would have most likely been drafted if he did not retire.

 

[Wolegib]

I don't know what I'm talking about. I respond to other readers. I trust them to know what they are talking about. When you argue with me, you're arguing against the rest of the board. look at the Wilson thread and make your arguments. they said he was a back-up. I just agreed with them. look at the beginning post. it asked which of these players do you believe will have a shot at the next level. I said I wasn't sure about Neal or Hunte. I later said NO to Wilson.

I thought this thread was about who we believe is actually going to make it to the next level. Wilson? I don't think so. Will he even get a look? I doubt it. But I guess everybody gets a look by somebody.. I'll go back to the original premise of this thread. Will Wilson continue the streak? NO.

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

I don't know what I'm talking about. I respond to other readers. I trust them to know what they are talking about. When you argue with me, you're arguing against the rest of the board. look at the Wilson thread and make your arguments. they said he was a back-up. I just agreed with them. look at the beginning post. it asked which of these players do you believe will have a shot at the next level. I said I wasn't sure about Neal or Hunte. I later said NO to Wilson.

I thought this thread was about who we believe is actually going to make it to the next level. Wilson? I don't think so. Will he even get a look? I doubt it. But I guess everybody gets a look by somebody.. I'll go back to the original premise of this thread. Will Wilson continue the streak? NO.

You always have to have the last word, don’t you?
I responded to each of your comments with facts. You responded to me with more subjective deflections on why you aren’t wrong. I stand behind my comment I believe Wilson has the potential based on raw talent I saw and his athleticism to get a look at the next level just like many past purdue defenders, some of which were not regular starters on even very bad purdue teams.

I wouldn’t count out Mahoungou to get invited to a camp/tryout or even an UDFA contract either. He had twice the stats Posey had last year against tougher defenders and is still developing.

Neither will get drafted and continue the streak but this thread has expanded to discuss any players that could get a chance at the nfl someday.

 

[jmohlman]

The key to your observation is that Hunte was NEVER close to the blown coverages. I think he gets a look.

Bentley, because of this physical stature and speed will be drafted, bank on it.

Generally, players at the next level don't drop the ball, therefore, it's hard to imagine that any of ours will get a serious chance.

Hunte Will get some looks. I think one of the keys to the game the other night was that time after time Tate had to write out a bounds or scramble up and down the sideline as he patiently but frantically waited for receiver to get open but the announcer would say “the coverage was there nobody was open”. How many times have we heard that the last couple years? Not very many normally when the quarterback rolls out like that we hold our breath and wait to see him launch the ball 30 or 40 yards downfield to a wide-open receiver.

 

[PaBoiler78]

Hunte Will get some looks. I think one of the keys to the game the other night was that time after time Tate had to write out a bounds or scramble up and down the sideline as he patiently but frantically waited for receiver to get open but the announcer would say “the coverage was there nobody was open”. How many times have we heard that the last couple years? Not very many normally when the quarterback rolls out like that we hold our breath and wait to see him launch the ball 30 or 40 yards downfield to a wide-open receiver.

could see Wilson getting a look by a team like the Bengals.

 

[FearTheTrain]

Hunte will 100% get drafted as long as he runs well. Teams avoided him because he was good and very consistent. Even if he doesn't run a decent 40, I see him making a roster. Does anyone have an idea of how fast he is? That is one of the main reasons Brown got selected where he did.

Bentley will get drafted. As others have said, Robinson has a lot to gain from a good pro day (doubt he will be a combine invite unless his Dad can pull a few strings).

No chance for either of our wide receivers, but they were incredible during the bowl game and they could get a shot in the CFL.

It will be interesting to see how Sindelar progresses in the next two years- he certainly has the build of an NFL QB.

 

[70boiler]

Hunte will 100% get drafted as long as he runs well...Even if he doesn't run a decent 40, I see him making a roster...

I find it astonishing to read that he, or any listed 5' 9" DB is 100% likely to be drafted without decent 40 speed. The likelihood of NFL teams being willing to give up both size and speed on a DB pick to me is considerably under 100%, dare I say considerably less.

 

[Inspector100]

.............................................................................. When you argue with me, you're arguing against the rest of the board. ................................................

Now you sound like an IU guy. The above portion of the last post you made on this thread is totally wrong. The facts show that there are many posters here that are debating your comments and the logic you show. I just said a prayer.

 

[Wolegib]

the question remains. will the streak continue? I suppose every player receives a look by somebody. and everybody hates the person who says no. I was surprised Yancy was drafted last year and shocked by the team who drafted him. To me, the Packers drafting Yancy was not logical. I will be surprised if Wilson receives a try-out. I will be shocked if he makes a team.

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

I find it astonishing to read that he, or any listed 5' 9" DB is 100% likely to be drafted without decent 40 speed. The likelihood of NFL teams being willing to give up both size and speed on a DB pick to me is considerably under 100%, dare I say considerably less.

I believe Ricardo Allen is shorter and ran a slower 40 time (4.6+). Drafted and now full time starter at safety.

 

[70boiler]

I believe Ricardo Allen is shorter and ran a slower 40 time (4.6+). Drafted and now full time starter at safety.

I didn't say it was impossible, but said it was considerably less than 100%, which I stand by. It is a relative longshot. My point was directed at the silliness of someone saying "Hunte will 100% get drafted as long as he runs well" and giving the obvious reason that I felt so. Sorry that I wasn't clear enough to understand.
Allen... 5' 9", 186# per Falcons' roster

 

[PrintersRowBoiler]

I didn't say it was impossible, but said it was considerably less than 100%, which I stand by. It is a relative longshot. My point was directed at the silliness of someone saying "Hunte will 100% get drafted as long as he runs well" and giving the obvious reason that I felt so. Sorry that I wasn't clear enough to understand.
Allen... 5' 9", 186# per Falcons' roster

Got it, makes sense.